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General Discussion / Thoughts on embedding affiliate_id into account registration ?

« on: October 20, 2014, 09:18:43 pm »

So right now we have no real way to do affiliates as far as I remember. (Please correct me if I am wrong)

So what would happen if the devs added a 2 byte field (65000 different marketers!) to every account registration transaction. This affiliate_id is part of the json packaged with the executable. So the executable just reads this value and it is put on the blockchain so it tells us that a certain marketer provided the source of the executable.

It is a scary idea because binaries are just such a bad idea these days. Having multiple sources acceptable is inviting some bad things to happen. The best we can have the executable hashed. That doesn't help everyone, but it lets technically proficient people catch malicious wallets.

The upside could be huge. It opens up a huge vector for growth by affiliate marketers. The system could be gamed, but the commissions could be paid in parts for a year according to balances. Oh wait we're using TITAN. Dammit I really liked this idea..

It seems close to workable............

thoughts? Has this already been suggested previously?

General Discussion / Bytemaster and Stan discuss what exactly their thoughts and intentions are.

« on: October 20, 2014, 01:54:59 am »

This was the mumble session held recently so that Dan could vocalize his thoughts and hopefully alleviate a lot of the misinformation floating about.

https://soundcloud.com/beyond-bitcoin-hangouts/mumble-emergency-hangout-bytemaster-explains-his-proposal-and-answers-2014-10-19

I know others have posted this already, but I am just trying to make it as obvious as possible given all considerations.

General Discussion / What should the various bitUSD's be named ?

« on: October 18, 2014, 06:17:12 pm »

There will be multiple bitUSDs from multiple DACs from outside and inside I3. We know this.

So the question then becomes what is best naming system?

bitNOTEUSD ? noteUSD ?

On some level it would be nice to have them suggested as part of the bitshares family, but I don't think that can reasonably be done. I assume the answer will be something like noteUSD/voteUSD/bitUSD/jdsUSD

Beyond Bitcoin [closed] / Beyond Bitcoin Hangout 10-17-2014. ETHEREUM COMPETITOR !! WHAT !!!

« on: October 18, 2014, 07:48:39 am »

https://soundcloud.com/beyond-bitcoin-hangouts/beyond-bitcoin-community-hangout-2014-10-17

My apologies to taoeffect. This show went on longer than usual and I underestimated the proper time. If you are interested in talking to him and his work on DNS DAC then pm me.

Ethereum replacement announced !!

In this Beyond Bitcoin Hangout dated October, 17, 2014.

0:00 Daniel Larimer starts out the show with us !
1:10 Why can't BitUSD hold a tighter peg ? How does the spread and liquidity impact this ?
What is the risk to liquidity providers ?
5:51 What is the transaction fee for updating ? An indepth discussion of bitUSD and market making continues. Bytemaster explains why the lack of a large buy and sell wall does not mean that liquidity is lacking and why you are guaranteed to get full price within 15 or 30 days.
10:46 Discussion of release of the new market (gui?). Bugs discovered and hardfork plans.
12:22 When will we see v 1.0 of Bitshares X ?
12:53 What about the mail system integration and how is that tied into the lightweight client ?
14:16 How about finding a credit union to hold their assets in bitUSD ? Bytemaster talks about trying to discover how this aspect of credit unions are regulated in this area.
17:55 What about different jurisdictions that might be lighter on the regulations ?
18:18 Fuz talks about how the Phillipines is trying to create their own state sponsored crypto-currency.
20:54 What about the bond idea and exposure to counterparty risk ?
22:12 Do you think there might be an educational tool to show people they could skip the credit union ?
23:02 A user asks if every DAC should have a bitBTC or bitUSD for transactions ?
24:43 Dan announces that the Vote DAC will only have their own bitUSD. The conversation gets very very interesting. The Voting DAC is announced and where the direction with it may be going. A direct competitor to Ethereum.
27:51 What exactly is proof of person about ?
30:02 How is the team managing all the new projects ?
31:43 What does Bytemaster see as his role as the new projects are created.
33:40 What about your financial vision that you baked into Bitshares X, Bytemaster ?
35:08 How do you get started if you wish to be hired by I3 ?
36:48 Is the killing of PTS proposal tied into this new Vote direction ? What is the general direction of the Bitshares ecosystem ?
39:53 What makes a DAC a Proto-DAC ?
45:00 Dan, How do you recommend that a DAC developer receive donations to help with their endeavor ?
46:06 What about the new class of delegates ? Technical versus business delegates that have different roles ?
52:06 What are some ideas that 3rd party devs could code up ?
56:10 Discussion of bitBTC used as a core asset instead of bitUSD ?
58:46 How do you convince a merchant to utilize bitUSD ?
1:00:53 Discussion of cross-chain trading.
1:03:11 Brief explanation of the theory behind cross-chain trading.
1:07:34 Do you have backup speakers for when you are not available ? Discussion of the value in Bitcoin conferences going forward and how they seem to have changed in the value they provide Bitshares.
1:10:20 What about Money 20/20 ?

Technical Support / Question about claiming DNS being reposted for vit0

« on: October 15, 2014, 02:47:32 am »

I have a problem while trying to claim DNS within KeyID.
As you wrote earlier, now my keyhotee founder ID is `vit0` (was `_vit0`).
I tried to import my PTS wallet and I wasn't able to do that because of error:

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wallet_import_bitcoin d:\wallet_backups\backup_pts_14-10-2014.dat my_password vit0

18 aes_exception: AES error
error during aes 256 cbc decrypt final
    {"s":"error:06065064:digital envelope routines:EVP_DecryptFinal_ex:bad decrypt"}
    bitshares  aes.cpp:263 fc::aes_decrypt
unable to decrypt key
    {}
    bitshares  bitcoin.cpp:175 bts::bitcoin::decrypt

    {}
    bitshares  bitcoin.cpp:338 bts::bitcoin::import_bitcoin_wallet
error importing bitcoin wallet d:/WALLET~1/BAF04B~1.DAT
    {"wallet_dat":"d:/WALLET~1/BAF04B~1.DAT","account_name":"vit0"}
    bitshares  wallet.cpp:5514 bts::wallet::wallet::import_bitcoin_wallet

    {}
    bitshares  common_api_client.cpp:723 bts::rpc_stubs::common_api_client::wallet_import_bitcoin

    {"command":"wallet_import_bitcoin"}
    bitshares  cli.cpp:556 bts::cli::detail::cli_impl::execute_command

When I'm doing:

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wallet_import_private_key
wallet_import_keyhotee Witold "" Mitoraj "My_brain_wallet_key" "vit0"

it outputs "OK" messages, but I still have 0 DNS on my account.

In "My Accounts" in my `vit0` account it is written that it was registered on 1st of October and it is strange because I was KeyhoteeID founder. I don't understand that.

Could you answer me why I cannot claim any DNS and import my PTS wallet into KeyID wallet?

BR, vit0.

General Discussion / Mumble alert -Author of DNSChain etc. Starting up here within a few minutes !!!

« on: October 11, 2014, 11:32:38 pm »

I am not sure when he is going to be on. We are shooting for next Friday the 24th of October but that may change. So if you want to show up in person, next Friday's mumble session will likely be the day, but subject to change. Actually this will be held at 2pm eastern. Or one hour before the previous time. There will be no regular hangout at 3pm eastern with Dan, as that will be in the morning at 9am eastern.

https://twitter.com/taoeffect

Greg Slepak

He is working on
http://okturtles.com/ and
https://github.com/okTurtles/dnschain

DNSChain (formerly DNSNMC) makes it possible to be certain that you're communicating with who you want to communicate with, and connecting to the sites that you want to connect to, without anyone secretly listening in on your conversations in between.

What is it?

DNSChain replaces X.509 PKI with the blockchain
Simple and secure GPG key distribution
Free SSL certificates become possible
Prevents DDoS attacks
Certificate revocation that actually works
DNS-based censorship circumvention
MITM-proof authentication via .dns metaTLD

General Discussion / Adam B Levine - Prove you are not a centralized gatekeeper.

« on: October 11, 2014, 09:29:09 pm »

Quote from: AdamBLevine on October 11, 2014, 03:19:12 pm

Ask Daniel if he thinks I act like a gatekeeper keeping out projects that don't follow my every whim, I really think you just don't know what you're talking about and it's very easy for you to know for sure. Ask them, that's what people who want to know the truth do.

Adam,

You are a gatekeeper. Gatekeepers will often use a claim of quality control etc to deny others, but you're a gatekeeper. It isn't bad. Someone has to set standards. Yet you are the gatekeeper about what show is allowed on the quite successful LTBNetwork and you've further centralized all this power with your coin. It is actually all quite clever. You control a lot of eyes with your network. It is deserved. You have a high quality standard with a very well done portal. Not to mention your personal show is always very well done.

You declined bbx (mumble/dev hangout) in the past because you had some issue. I agree a lot of bbx shows have not been very good and you could give me a list of things that are faulty. I'd likely agree. I don't put much effort into it. I could put a lot more time into it, but I try to be effective given the time I am dedicating to it.

We're covering Dan and only Bitshares related stuff now. I've ignored pms from people wanting to be on the show. In this way the bbx show is also a gatekeeper, but we are laughable instead of formidable.

So here is my proposal for you. Prove to us you are not a centralized gatekeeper. We could come up with a few professional shows, but not anywhere near all of our shows. Only the best ones that have had extra effort put into editing and good enough base content. So you're only given shows at or beyond the level of quality seen on your network. Your time will not be wasted with rubbish submissions from me. If you decline it, well then it will be posted anyway. We will take our toys and go home.

I understand that we receive value and I would be quite comfortable with you inserting ads in our show and keeping revenue. I would just like to see the content receive more ears. Your network would receive an occasionally great show.

I'm 100% sincere in this. There is no being snarky in this post. If you aren't a centralized gatekeeper then it seems straightforward that you would agree to do this. Our show has never been used as a platform to espouse anti-LTBNetwork or anti-Adam sentiment. We have the same passions about the space as you, Adam.

Sincerely,
Gamey

General Discussion / Thoughts on the bump threads ?

« on: October 11, 2014, 04:02:23 am »

Ok so there are 3 in here. Reddit/bitcointalk/other media.

Bitcointalk needs its own because not everyone even has a bitcointalk account. I believe you need to lurk 4 hours just to post.

However, there are other threads floating about for reddit. I hate to ask people to stop those threads and in a lot of ways they might have visibility that the TASKFORCE threads don't. However having everything in one spot for those times you want to sit back and contribute a bit of time to viral marketing - it is all right here.

Thoughts ? I'm thinking I should just delete the reddit one in here.

General Discussion / Other Chinese or 3rd party DACs ?

« on: October 11, 2014, 02:19:25 am »

There is Just Dice Style Shares JSD type DAC .

https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=9393.0
https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=8973.0

Is anyone aware of other DACs ? I'm updating 3rd party DAC page.

General Discussion / Bitcoin at $330 ?

« on: October 04, 2014, 06:16:16 pm »

Geez $330. This is not good for the crypto world. Maybe it makes us stand out as we hold value, but the crypto/blockchain scene as a whole is going to take a hit. Not to mention how much AGS value I3 has lost for development. Think of Ethereum etc who had a lot in BTC. It is kinda sad, not as many nerds going to get paid jobs getting to do neat stuff.

We might get a short term boost but I have a hard time seeing this being longterm positive.

We're even under 60 million on coinmarketcap.

When will it stop and we see a legit rebound ?

I'm going to feel like I'm sticking my tongue out at anyone @ inside bitcoins by wearing Bitshares X related shirt. Usually people are sad at the end of their Vegas trip, not sad going into it like the people attending Inside Bitcoin. I guess this will help us sell our product though ?

Beyond Bitcoin [closed] / BitShares Music DAC ! Beyond Bitcoin - Very interesting stuff !!!

« on: October 04, 2014, 11:23:57 am »

Tired of market mechanics and fixes ? Tired of taking over Wall Street? Want to hear how music industry will be taken over ? Well here we go !!

https://soundcloud.com/beyond-bitcoin-hangouts/beyond-bitcoin-music-dac-edition-2014-10-03-starring-cedric-cobson

0:00 Cedric Cobban gets his mic working and it is showtime. He introduces himself and Itnom / Tautalent of BitSapphire.
1:03 Cob starts talking about where things have moved with the Bitshares Music DAC.
2:52 Talk about how dilution will be a feature of the Bitshares Music DAC.
3:49 Cob talks about the exact split as currently planned.
5:40 Discussion about how the web wallet being introduced will not be focused on crypto-types.
6:34 Will the DAC be independent of the website ? What is the interaction of Peertracks website with the DAC.
9:03 How will the storage of the files work ? Ownership? How is revenue from artists separated out from DAC revenue ?
10:55 What are NOTES ? More discussion about where revenue comes from. A very extensive description of how it will work.
17:40 How do the owners of the NOTES realize a profit ?
25:15 Itnom explains the evolution of the Music DAC idea and what his Ahhhh Ha! moment was.
27:42 How about moving this from audio to movies ?
30:50 Explanation of how an affiliate system will be used to generate revenue through links to help incentivize.
31:50 How about having enough capacity for infrastructure ? What all can be sold ?
35:00 Talk about piracy concerns and how the Music DAC would work internationally across the localized music sites. What all can be sold ? It can go to access to the artist ?
40:00 What PeerTracks is for.
41:13 Why not have all sales go to burning up the coins ?
44:00 How about insider trading on your own coin as an artist ? Fuz talks about being oiled up naked walking around.
45:44 Is a lightweight client needed to protect wealth in the DAC when used without a website ?
46:36 The artist can decide on what percentage is burned ?
49:45 Fuz brings up how a mother could buy up the shares of her bitCocaine addicted wannabe rockstar son and lift him up from his lowlieness.
50:46 How does Peertrack make money ?

Beyond Bitcoin [closed] / Beyond Bitcoin show 10-3-2014

« on: October 04, 2014, 07:20:25 am »

https://soundcloud.com/beyond-bitcoin-hangouts/beyond-bitcoin-community-dev-hangout-2014-10-03

0:00 Show starts with Dan giving his weekly update. Goes into how the market tweaking has been going along.
5:35 How about the idea of backing everything by a basket ?
6:15 Talk of systematic risks versus market risks. How the change in collateral affects things.
8:41 Have you considered adding voting into the wallet for various proposal ? DAC distributions etc ?
10:20 If BitUSD is floating around on the market that have different interests, does that mean there are different versions of BitUSD around ?
14:45 What happens if Bitshares X starts to fall, how do the incentives work ?
15:40 When a margin is called, the BitUSD is destroyed ? How does that work ?
16:32 Would it be possible for future DAC snapshots to add BTSX into the mix with PTS and AGS ?
17:15 How do the Notes get their value in the Bitshares Music DAC ?
18:35 TonyK’s appearance is announced and discussed in relation to the fall of Bitcoin. (WTF?)
18:50 Lets discuss the proposed marketing strategy that has been posted on bitsharestalk.
25:05 Can we walk through a scenario of how this would work ?
28:10 Talk of the biggest barrier to the first group of users - User talks of how lack of mobile solutions prevented growth. Thoughts ?
29:25 How about internationalization efforts going ?
30:52 Itnom is around and talks about where BitSapphire’s work on a blockchain.info type implementation that isn’t aimed at hardcore crypto-geeks. Bytemaster perks up and starts asking questions !
34:30 Dan departs. Brent Allsop tells a story about his BTC meetup and Bitcoin price predictions.
39:15 Talk about distributions.
40:35 Talk about the Reddit coin. Itnom gives insightful knowledge about developer etc and how the various needs and personalities may play out.
43:13 Itnom from BitSapphire explains what Hyperledger is.
45:23 Listener complains about his local meetup being so Bitcoin centric.
Show ends and continues in a new episode devoted to Bitshares Music.

General Discussion / [TASKFORCE] Mumble Translation and getting the word out to non English speakers.

« on: September 30, 2014, 07:10:51 pm »

Right now this is being done on an experimental basis with some helpful Chinese guys. I've transcribing part of the show now because it has been requested to aid in translations. The part that is transcribed is what I think is the most important and highest level information. I won't be transcribing highly technical questions etc because it is simply too much work.

So I was doing this in private, but I think making it as a TASKFORCE is useful because we might find a volunteer for other communities that do not have a large percentage of English speakers. It also provides some of the transparency and highlights the global community building that is going on with Bitshares.

Beyond Bitcoin [closed] / Beyond Bitcoin Show with Dan from 9-26. Lots of market talk. DO NOT MISS OUT

« on: September 28, 2014, 02:02:20 am »

https://soundcloud.com/beyond-bitcoin-hangouts/beyond-bitcoin-community-dev-hangout-2014-9-26

Beyond Bitcoin Community Dev Hangout -

0:00 show starts
4:35 Usually when you short there is a fee that is assessed upfront, why wait a month ?
5:20 Whats keeping someone from creating bots to create bots to cover and reshort ? Explain the monthly limit.
6:55 Talk of the bots that have been posted and released. How about a shorting bot ? How would it work ?
8:09 Will tweaks to bots be submitted to github ?
8:55 Another thing we are working on is a new transaction type says Bytemaster.
9:13 The other big event of the week is nubits.
12:14 Do you think there is a risk to Peercoin by Nubits ?
12:52 Lets highlight the difference in approaches between nubits vs the collateralization approach.
15:08 Dan points out how in fairness, Bitshares X has been called a ponzi scheme.
16:45 People were claiming nubits could fund development of peercoin and family, thoughts ?
21:03 How explaining things in the company metaphor helps in aiding the explanation of Bitshares X relative to other products.
23:40 Does Nubits hyper inflation after Nushare price ?
25:20 Joking talk about a BitNuBit and being able to short it.
26:00 Is it possible to make an API for outside exchanges ?
27:55 What is the relation between I3 and the developers of Music DAC ?
29:30 Discussion of changes made
30:52 Why would the social contract prohibit the previous mentioned improvement ? Discussion on the 2 camps in the community and their wishes. How about over-leveraging the system with catastrophic effects ?
40:55 Can we have a feature that allows shareholders to propose a poll on the blockchain to vote on ?
43:00 What about Dacsunlimited cloning Bitshares X into other coins to maximize value to Bitshares X holders ?
45:55 Regarding DDOS attacks, how does POW compare to DPOS in regards to resiliency to attacks ?
50:05 What role are the delegates who are not in top 101 and can be they be analyzed as easily ?
51:03 It is likely Bitcoin will switch to DPOS and what effect would it have on Bitshares ?
53:20 The market overview page in the GUI, are there plans to make it nicer looking ?
54:00 Daniel Larimer starts to departs but says one last thing.
55:10 Post show starts. Talk of Cob from Music DAC will be coming next week. Talk of his his new non-technical whitepaper and how impressive it is. bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=9360.0
An open discussion largely about Music DAC. A viewer thinks the possibility might be larger than Bitshares X?

General Discussion / About Task Forces - Why this is here and what this is all about.

« on: September 25, 2014, 07:22:07 pm »

Well welcome to the Task Forces forum. The idea here is that you can help a task-force by clicking on the thread, and reading the last few posts to see what and where your posting is requested. (As an example) One sub-forum where we try to keep all things where community can help in one place. It will not just be posting elsewhere, but all manner of help.

The idea here is to enable community effort (crowd-sourcing). Perhaps you are bored one night and instead of reading your regular Saturday Evening Post, you decide to post on your Saturday evening about Bitshares X ! Well how do you find where to post ? That is the problem we are trying to solve without a 3rd party site.

I would create more TASKFORCE threads, but I am hoping to start seeing the current ones adopted a bit more.

Everyone is encouraged to create TASKFORCE threads if they can think of something that needs to be done and what step 1 is. This is the only requirement. The step could be "join my facebook group". "Research X & Y". "Help me edit my bitshares paper at http://googledocs" I just want every thread to have a call to action of some form that is actionable or have it marked [CLOSED].

Rules to maintain value and order

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For the top most forum I want only threads that each have one TASKFORCE or some other community endeavor. It doesn't even need to be named TASKFORCE. The idea is to have a list of threads each with its own purpose and approach.

In bump/upvote threads, I ask that you only post bumps or upvotes. I will readily delete posts that do not obey this rule and send annoying pms politely asking you to not do it in the future.

Other taskforces will have discussions about what people need to do. That is fine. It really is up to the person who creates the TASKFORCE how they wish to organize it. Their general rules and info should be put in the OP. Private groups will need to be organized elsewhere, but a TASKFORCE can be created her asking people to contact the organizer (for example).

If you are not sure what the first step is and have no plan, then perhaps start a discussion elsewhere. Once you have it figured out, create TASKFORCE thread that has instructions and your general rules and expectations for the thread. If your thread grows too big and spans multiple subjects we can have a sub-forum made for your taskforce. BE THE FIRST !

Last rule is have fun.