This is a catch all for any request.  Maybe a thread on letstalkbitcoin.  Perhaps one of the lesser crypto sites.  Bitcointalk and reddit both have specific needs so they get their own TASKFORCE (lol).  Everything else falls in here.  If you are selling bitshares and want followers on twitter, post a request in here. 

Again, please keep chatter down.

This taskforce is for those people who have more of a trading background or feel comfortable interacting with traders.

Forum list -

• elitetrader

At this point I've only been suggested "elitetrader" by someone.  Post in here any forums or social media we should utilize to target day/commodities traders.

This will not be pursued until GUI is refactored, but is in preparation stage.

Damn this is long, but this is not a real simple process.  If you have interest in this please read.


So if you care about the history of this discussion look at thread https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=7255.0 & https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=9036.0.   I was trying to decide between trello, asana, or continuing use of the forums.  Then GodsCreation volunteered but has had some level of second thoughts.  (Which is fine, I find myself with too any projects sometimes) 

So I decided to go back to Asana/Trello but I am not happy with either.  After discussing with Delulo we came up with list of requirements.

Ability to create “Task-forces”.
Ability to create tasks.
Ability to be notified by email. - mainly for things like a reddit bump team.
Bounties posted.
Ability to close tasks.
Task-forces which are private so people can have frank discussions etc.

Examples of task forces – Pointing out wiki being out of date and correcting it.  Reddit bump team, Trading forum posting group, etc.  I doubt there would be ever more than 5 active ones.

After looking around at Trello and Asana neither made me happy.  I think they are great for top down led organizational stuff, but I'm not sure we need it.  I don't want to be the leader and I don't think MarketDirector does.  All external services have some learning curve for everyone involved.  I had been suggesting we stick with forums because to me it seems to be the same thing, lists of lists, but I really was looking for feedback as this needs to be first and foremost a community.

Problems with forums is that there is no real structural enforcement of the process.  So that means we have to come up with some rules.  Once we do that, I think the forums will pretty much do everything.

First we create a “Task-forces” top level forum.  I thought about merging it with bounties but bounties might be pushed off page.  If rules are enforced though the chatter could be low enough to have “Bounties and Task-forces”.   Either way, from inside that forum we have our community organization process.

Requirements for community organizational process and how they are solved by forum.

Ability to create Task-forces. - Yes, as a thread.  If task-force grows, subforum can be created and use threads in there as sub-tasks. 
Ability to create tasks  Yes – Create another thread within the task-force forum.
Ability to be notified by email. - mainly for things like a reddit bump team.  Yes – click on notify button on thread.
Bounties posted – Use existing bounties forum.
Ability to close tasks – Yes click on “locked” and re-title it [CLOSED] at the start
Task-forces which are private so people can have frank discussions etc. - Not sure about this.  This requires someone to manage permissions etc.  Also not sure what capabilities stock SMF has.

The main thing is that we enforce no noise on the forum so that people can go there and directly find something to do.  There will be no discussion threads.  Those can be held elsewhere.  Possibly a subforum.  The idea is to make the top “taskforces” thread have only threads that have DIRECT PLANS of action.  If you want to ask about working on something, or starting up a task for, then you would start that conversation elsewhere.  Then once you felt comfortable with it, then you post a thread in the Task-force forum.  No proposal threads, no discussion threads.  Just taskforces who have a task force or tasks themselves.

This can work quite well.  For example, visit the https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=9174.0 thread. You can click on “notify” for example if you would like to actively help Bitcoin people see the light via forums/social media.  By actively modding

So the idea is like the thread above, but done on a new parent level forum.  Organization tools are pretty much just lists of lists of lists.

PLEASE comment on this.  This would require a change to the top level of the forums and clutter the frontpage even more.  The positive side is that the task-forces and even the whole process can be readily moved from the bitsharestalk to elsewhere.

http://pastebin.com/FRsdkiig

This is a global list.  If you are not included then CREATE a delegate on BTSX.  All this means is you register an account and pay for them to be a delegate.  Do not make requests in this thread, they will be ignored.

If you find an error or a problem then post in this thread explaining why.  Any founder ids can request to have their publickey changed or name changed in this thread.  No one else please.

No sub accounts from btsx are allowed and TLDs are stripped out of the delegate names.

For the v1 thread with the TLD list etc, go here https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=8784.0 to read it.

So it is safe to assume that we really need to approach active traders.  Specifically those who are inclined towards early adoption. 

At one point I created a list of trading forums, but they are not sorted that well.  I expected to pull alexis data for each forum/row to sort by so the group could prioritize.  So many forums have anti-spam measures that it might be difficult to post on some.  This is just what my intention was, I think there are other ideas beyond "post on forums".  Lets hear them, please !

I think we need to find people who are open to novel ideas like BTSX. It really takes a certain mindset.  Early-adopters.  How do we target these people ?

https://soundcloud.com/beyond-bitcoin-hangouts/bitshares-community-and-developer-hangout-9-12-2014

2:54 Show officially starts with Bytemaster’s weekly update. Yield has been released. Talks about the bot created to provide liquidity. The ability to positive and negatively burn on accounts to help accentuate a trust systems. Dan also talks of the web of trust system and the ability to post messages on someone’s account and how this works to prevent fraud.
7:30 Is there a separate positive and negative balance? Hows the reputation burn system work? Top 10 List Scammer List to be the frontpage.
10:00 How this burning reputation overlaps with the needs of a company like Overstock.com and their possible need to remove stocks from circulation in a provable way.
12:15 Dan announces the messaging system that will be built-in to btsx that will be email like and how this ties into lightweight clients that do not need to scan the whole blockchain. Dan explains how it facilitates multi-sig transactions using this communication system.
13:48 Isn’t this like bip 70 in Bitcoin ? The Payment Protocol by Gavin Andresen ?
17:09 Talk about how there will be the ability to have public accounts.
18:33 What was meant by 5,10, 20 custom assets ?
19:50 Is there a plan for bringing new markets into btsx ?
20:15 Minutes of chaos edited out, but a small sample left in show at request of Fuz.
21:16 Is there any effort by the team to help bootstrap markets ? More talk of BitUSD5+ and freicoin.
25:58 BitUSD20 lands in an interesting spot and how it varies from BitUSD5. How this might be able to be used to find the proper percentage.
28:33 Dan mentions bitsharesblocks.com and how he is excited to see more block explorers.
30:30 How the bot is only to create liquidity and not speculate.
31:30 Why use different categories of BitUSD ? 5,10,20 etc? Why not use a bond market ? A very technical discussion on market mechanics and what he expects to happen with the new yield system. The bot is further explained
37:00 What about the barrier to entry by the high fee charged in BTSX for asset listing ?
38:45 Will the meta-data have a public and private standard ?
41:17 What about delegates having anonymity versus publicly identified delegates.
43:20 Do we have enough delegates ?
44:24 Has any consideration been given to paying people who are standby delegates ?
46:35 A question on clarification on voting with slates. Dan talks about how slates impact privacy.
51:50 Delving into the mechans of the delegate slate voting system.
52:45 Do the features from the voting DAC overlap with voting in BTSX and the bitshares toolkit ?
54:05 What do people get by agreeing to social consensus and giving 20% to AGS/PTS ? What would happen if people ignored AGS/PTS ? What is Bytemaster’s opinion on competition ?
1:06:31 What will the lightweight client be like ?
1:09 Dan Larimer departs back to doing development !
1:09:23 Brian Page starts to talk about the marketing efforts and the big Inside Bitcoin conference being held in Las Vegas in October. Brian also talks about going to the Bitcoin job conference looking for web developers with AngularJS experience. The audio issues return.
1:14:20 Brian Page talks about his experience with a main street Wall Street analyst and his take on BitShares X. He also goes into wanting to get a real analyst to sit down from outside of crypto world to sit down and analyze BTSX indepth as if it was a regular stock.
1:22:36 Where did Daniel learn all his market education ?
1:24:15 Rumors that Daniel is Satoshi Nakomoto ?

So my problem is I'm still a bit confused as how everyone has the potential to make $, where the interest in the rewards program comes from, maybe a few other areas.  I also suspect the wiki needs improvement.  So while not committing to personally coming up with a better resource I am trying to request a link to every quality post/resource be posted in this thread.  Maybe there is something out there that we can start with?  So much going on, it is easy for things to slip by.

I'll start out with the post below.  We also have the wiki, and there was a thread full of analogies but analogies only go so far.  I want to create a resource that reassures people how BitUSD works.  Before that I'd like to create a resource list that everyone can use to explain how the creation of polymorphic digital assets work. 

(TBI = To Be Included)

https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=8156.msg106830#msg106830

TBI - Thread of analogies
TBI - Specific audio portions from Dan's chats.

During the Mumble session Xeroc explained his problems with wanting to balance transparency with possibly a little exposure when paying out his donations.  Really the problem is that there is no one taking btsx or bitUSD.  We need a solid donation point that we can be involved around.

I know of Sean's Outpost.  Maybe we could get them to publicly take BTSX, maybe not.  I think it would be better if it wasn't Sean's Output, but maybe that would be positive ?  The organizations have to be small enough to want to work with us, so we can't choose some huge organization with layers of management.  Charities for things that people love.  Saving puppies and kids is a start. 

I personally have no suggestions and don't even like to suggest things.  Charity can also attract people who are not sincere.  Anyone know of anyone personally involved in a small worthwhile charity? 

Anyone guess how much much we could put together ?  Would it just be a big fail when we come up with $200 between everyone after weeks of begging ?  thoughts ?