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Random Discussion / Re: Disappear, digitally
« on: December 07, 2015, 06:59:55 pm »How many VPNs are run by spooks? Great way to run a honeypot.
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How many VPNs are run by spooks? Great way to run a honeypot.
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General Discussion / Re: Any interest in a more modern Discussion board?
« on: December 07, 2015, 06:52:40 pm »My comment was pretty straightforward. I'm kind of amazed that anyone likes phpBB. It's like a fax machine. I have one so I might as well use it till it dies.
I disagree that a trollbox and a discussion board serve the same purpose. While I agree a trollbox can be searchable, I think it's analogous to using twitter as a support desk. Trollboxes help identify issues, but they do not provide a platform for other users to learn from the experience of others.
Based on the participation in this thread, seems like there aren't many people who care one way or another, and there are a few who do seem to care. Not a huge issue to me one way or another.
I'm also not opinionated on the brand. Would just like something that's based on a modern web technology that doesn't reload the page with every post, one that shows me in real time when I have replied and/or inline direct messages.
It is not phpBB, it is SMF. This is one of those issues only pushed by people in their 20s as older types seem to not care for things to change for minor reasons. Bitsapphire tried to push this back when they took over the forum.
Do you use this forum enough to worry about real time etc? Email notifications worked fine for me when I was a active participant. Likewise page reloads were not an issue.
I think cryptocurrency is so tech oriented that a gee-whiz-bang forum would not particularly help. If users are going to be scared off by forum software, then they probably never messed with crypto.
edit - Just for a reference, I don't like forums where people post pictures. Sometimes it is funny, but often it just lets the brainless mimicking the thoughts of other. (Think facebook..)
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General Discussion / Re: Committee Proposal: Urgent call for help by the Chinese Community
« on: November 30, 2015, 06:29:47 pm »
Talking to a guy recently who is very knowledgable about crypto projects in general... he knew of my past interest in Bitshares and asked me if it is true ... Is BitShares controlled by a small number of Chinese whales?
I told him I do not know, but such a thing could very well be true...
After reading this thread I really do wonder.
Some Chinese guy(including some so-called whales ) have asked me if BitShares is an ATM and controlled by a few western developers in I3 . why they can keep bleeding dilution on Chinese , Why the developers can put up a proposal that could grant them more BTS just in 2 month than any single whale in the Chinese community .
Sometimes I just don't know what to tell them .
Guess we all have our troubles .
Well those really are some dumb questions. "keep bleeding dilution on Chinese" - as if the blockchain knows the difference between East/West. One could make the argument that the poor documention is even worse for non-native English speakers, but anyway... The rest of those questions can be answered by looking at labor market.
My point was, manipulating the market due to one actor not being able to get their pricing straight is strange to me. I get why it is done and wish Transwiser wasn't being bled to death for Bitshares sake, but the point is... this thread kinda backs up his question.
I have no idea how many "Chinese whales" there are or what is required for one to be a whale... but this question was asked by an exceptionally knowledgable person and not out of random ignorance.
edit - ^^^^ This means that this is some sort of prevailing perception OR he had some anti-Bitshares person who is a manipulator whispering into his ear. (Just to make it CLEAR) This was my point. This person has no interest in BitShares what so ever beyond a passing academic curiosity. In no way were they complaining about the Chinese or anything else because it would be hard for this person to care less. (Yes, sorry for ridiculous explanation, but I feel it is needed since people read non-existent implications into things and then have the nerve to call other's "stupid")
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General Discussion / Re: Committee Proposal: Urgent call for help by the Chinese Community
« on: November 30, 2015, 10:11:46 am »Talking to a guy recently who is very knowledgable about crypto projects in general... he knew of my past interest in Bitshares and asked me if it is true ... Is BitShares controlled by a small number of Chinese whales?
I told him I do not know, but such a thing could very well be true...
After reading this thread I really do wonder.
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Stakeholder Proposals / Re: Stealth Transfers Worker Proposal
« on: November 19, 2015, 02:13:14 am »Quote
This feature helps set BitShares apart from most other crypto currencies
Is this actually true ? This just seems to make Bitshares more like Bitcoin forks ? (Not that this is bad..) I'm just trying to understand what property of these feature(s) sets Bitshares apart?
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General Discussion / Re: Bitshares paper trading?
« on: November 17, 2015, 02:57:43 am »The problem is not setting it up, as dev networks are trivial to create. The problem is demo liquidity.
Yes, which is why distribution is somewhat important. It would be a hard thing to bootstrap even a fake market without a decent marketing budget of some sort.
Someone suggested feeding the maintainer of a market maker bot a lot of coins. This could be done and it'd make the market realistic at least. If the market maker bot loses it wouldn't matter.
A prizepool could be very useful too.
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General Discussion / Re: Bitshares paper trading?
« on: November 16, 2015, 05:47:25 am »I was listening to Beyond Bitcoin Show of November 6th. BM mentioned a demo website located on a central server with fictitious tokens as being an item on the roadmap.
I know it is for people to test dev stuff but can we use it for paper trading too?
I myself would love to play in a "sandbox" with fictional BTS, USD, BTC, etc.
Connected to a good tutorials and "voila"...Bitshares Academy!
This could also serve as a funnel to get people to buy Lifetime Memberships when they are ready to trade for real.
Anybody else interested in BitShares paper trading?
Yes. I think this could be a tremendous tool. I would enjoy it for all sorts of reasons. Eager to see it materialize.
The learning curve can be quite steep on first approach. The freedom to use all the features, turn all the nobs, and play with all the settings is a great way to become familiar and actually get whats going on, without spending a bunch of money or making a costly mistake. There's good incentive to build all sorts of things on this.
My understanding is that this is not meant to be DevShares but a sort of playground. DevShares would specifically be the branch slated to replace the main network and would not contain any of the playground experimental stuff.
Hey @Xeldal you are probably more familiar than me about how one could go about creating such platform. I think it could be a great way to get new users...especially if we "gamefy" it. Just like those poker website where you can learn without spending any real money then when one feels good enough to play with real money, we've got a trained trader who will buy a membership to use the platform and actually use it.
Do we need a license from cryptonomex @bytemaster?
Lots of FOREX exchanges have a similar thing. With the complexity of the Bitshares software etc, a demo site really is needed. Now that one doesn't need to download a client it is actually feasible. Your main problem would be distributing the coins initially, I'd think. Well that and the technical know how to setup a server/new chain etc.
Oh yea, and permission.
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General Discussion / Re: Forbes: ShareBits.io's Launch Bringing 'Crypto' Technology To Mass-Market
« on: November 16, 2015, 12:04:22 am »
Tipping will bring in people, but people who are motivated to action over $1 are very very rarely going to be high value customers.
It seems a proportional fee structure with a cap would be better. 2 parameters into the system.
It seems a proportional fee structure with a cap would be better. 2 parameters into the system.
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General Discussion / Re: Bitshares paper trading?
« on: November 15, 2015, 10:56:49 pm »This was DevShares. Not sure what happened to them, but there were guys around here screaming about not getting a fair shake.... I was wanting to do the same thing as you, but sort of lost my motivation when all the whiners came out thinking they were missing out on the next big thing because of some sharedrop disagreement.... sad
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General Discussion / Re: Reasons for Lowering Fees
« on: November 14, 2015, 02:51:46 pm »
The un-banked are the target audience for cryptocurrency, so we must raise fees as high as possible to attract more high quality un-banked people.
I hope that helps!
Most unbanked people are not going to be that into crypto. They're unbanked because they are poor and uneducated. The only people who are unbanked and will use crypto are those ducking the IRS/government.
Anyway I don't think the fees are slowing down adoption to the extent others believe.
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General Discussion / Re: Metatrader 4 and Bitshares
« on: November 06, 2015, 03:40:39 pm »It would also need to be packaged up with a nice installer etc. Having it like a lot of open source projects,where the developers work on it until it is no longer fun but works in some capacity would likely not help that much with adoption.
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General Discussion / Re: The worst thing for BTS is this forum
« on: November 06, 2015, 12:52:11 am »
The issue isn't this forum, the issue is that there should be a specific site separate from this forum that is maintained by someone specifically to address issues/updates.
edit - "should be" but that doesn't mean there are resources to do it without someone being altruistic.
edit - "should be" but that doesn't mean there are resources to do it without someone being altruistic.
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General Discussion / Re: Am I the only one that thinks referral system is Bitshares largest mistake ever?
« on: October 23, 2015, 05:10:44 pm »The bucket shop talk is just an unrelated thing to this thread. Everyone keeps skipping over the main point:
"As for the referral system, I stand by my statement that the referral system is currently holding the entire network hostage. 5 to 20 is a 400% increase. No real referral system places such a huge burden on it's base system. Going from 5 to 7 or 5 to 8 I could stomach, but the current system, no way, not ever."
If the referral system is going to be legit, it should only affect the base by something like 5-30% max. 400% is absurd. It's like Mark Lyford was given free reign to design it.
Your verbage when you try to be manipulative is amusing. "holding the entire network hostage". loool.
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General Discussion / Re: Am I the only one that thinks referral system is Bitshares largest mistake ever?
« on: October 17, 2015, 07:07:20 am »When the outside world looks at this thing, they don't even know the fee rate can be changed over time, so they're thinking, "nice, if this coin hits 3 billion market cap like Bitcoin, I get to pay $15 in fees per transaction ! "
When people are framing this issue within a market cap of 3 billion, BTS has already won them over.
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General Discussion / Re: How long will bts < 1.0 survive?
« on: October 15, 2015, 03:02:05 pm »I guess my concern is removing block explorers and the chain not being accessible to demonstrate what exactly happened.
