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DAC PLAY / Re: Entertainment/Webseries DAC
« on: May 09, 2014, 10:33:59 pm »You're describing ways for the DAC to pay people but not ways for people to pay the DAC
Then I guess it's not a DAC. No biggie.
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Then I guess it's not a DAC. No biggie.
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DAC PLAY / Re: Entertainment/Webseries DAC
« on: May 09, 2014, 09:11:50 pm »
Hold on a sec, I think I see a possibility for a DAC here.
A fan club/marketing department.
Basically it would be as I outlined above, but 30%-40% of the weekly disbursement of coins goes to the fan club. They would have an elected officer, who would receive a salary and the rest of it they would use for promotional efforts.
Granted, the majority of the voting power would be in the hands of the production and development team, but how the public is voting would be a good signal to follow. Regularly changing the people in marketing is a good strategy anyway for fresh ideas and approaches, and this would be a good recruitment technique. Also having community members competing for who is the biggest fan boy would be fantastic.
Cryptocurrency really needs artists and entertainers. The general public doesn't care at all about most of what the cryptocurrency community thinks makes it valuable. They need artists to tell them it's cool. It's dumb, I know, but that's how things work.
A fan club/marketing department.
Basically it would be as I outlined above, but 30%-40% of the weekly disbursement of coins goes to the fan club. They would have an elected officer, who would receive a salary and the rest of it they would use for promotional efforts.
Granted, the majority of the voting power would be in the hands of the production and development team, but how the public is voting would be a good signal to follow. Regularly changing the people in marketing is a good strategy anyway for fresh ideas and approaches, and this would be a good recruitment technique. Also having community members competing for who is the biggest fan boy would be fantastic.
Cryptocurrency really needs artists and entertainers. The general public doesn't care at all about most of what the cryptocurrency community thinks makes it valuable. They need artists to tell them it's cool. It's dumb, I know, but that's how things work.
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DAC PLAY / Re: Entertainment/Webseries DAC
« on: May 09, 2014, 06:44:44 pm »
Yeah, I guess don't really see any practical way to use a DAC for this.
The best idea I've been able to come up with so far is a pure POS coin that scales from @1000% to 2% inflation over the first three years and then stabilizes. There would be an initial pre-mine which would be given away as rewards to the players, the GM, devs. and to the public for sharing, likes, etc in the first 3 years on the same declining curve. Every week there would be an amount of coin to be distributed and it would be divided proportionately among the contributors and according to the value of their contribution.
After 3 years, we would hopefully have a large enough audience to sell T-shirts, bonus content, advertising, etc.
Hmm, I worked out the "pre-mine giveaway" idea right here. This might actually work. Definitely would need a dev that could figure out how to automate the link verification and coin distribution process but that doesn't seem impossible.
The best idea I've been able to come up with so far is a pure POS coin that scales from @1000% to 2% inflation over the first three years and then stabilizes. There would be an initial pre-mine which would be given away as rewards to the players, the GM, devs. and to the public for sharing, likes, etc in the first 3 years on the same declining curve. Every week there would be an amount of coin to be distributed and it would be divided proportionately among the contributors and according to the value of their contribution.
After 3 years, we would hopefully have a large enough audience to sell T-shirts, bonus content, advertising, etc.
Hmm, I worked out the "pre-mine giveaway" idea right here. This might actually work. Definitely would need a dev that could figure out how to automate the link verification and coin distribution process but that doesn't seem impossible.
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DAC PLAY / Entertainment/Webseries DAC
« on: May 08, 2014, 09:01:18 pm »
This is somewhat related to gaming, so I'm putting it here.
For the last couple of years I've been dreaming of creating a podcast/webseries that is a D&D-style actual game play. There are a fair number of them out there and a couple are even profitable. I think I can do better.
I think a show like this would be a great way to promote an alt-coin and the coin could support the show.
There would also be the opportunity to create a game, either downloadable, or online, or both that would incorporate the coin. Part of my "masterplan" to make a better podcast is great art. I'm building my skills using Blender to create that art. Art created in Blender can be imported into various game engines.
I'd like to use the incentive of getting paid to recruit top-notch role-players and hand out coins to the public for liking, sharing, commenting, etc. Not to mention web/game/coin developers needing to get paid. Eventually I could release the art I've created and encourage others to create their own webseries' under the brand-name and it might be nice to see those who do it well rewarded for their effort.
I want to see people rewarded for the actual work they do, not make-work like mining. How can a DAC, bitshares, or some other form of cryptocurrency, help make this a reality?
For the last couple of years I've been dreaming of creating a podcast/webseries that is a D&D-style actual game play. There are a fair number of them out there and a couple are even profitable. I think I can do better.
I think a show like this would be a great way to promote an alt-coin and the coin could support the show.
There would also be the opportunity to create a game, either downloadable, or online, or both that would incorporate the coin. Part of my "masterplan" to make a better podcast is great art. I'm building my skills using Blender to create that art. Art created in Blender can be imported into various game engines.
I'd like to use the incentive of getting paid to recruit top-notch role-players and hand out coins to the public for liking, sharing, commenting, etc. Not to mention web/game/coin developers needing to get paid. Eventually I could release the art I've created and encourage others to create their own webseries' under the brand-name and it might be nice to see those who do it well rewarded for their effort.
I want to see people rewarded for the actual work they do, not make-work like mining. How can a DAC, bitshares, or some other form of cryptocurrency, help make this a reality?
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MemoryCoin / Re: My investment is in FreeTrade
« on: April 23, 2014, 06:22:08 pm »
FreeTrade, here's an idea: A coin called "Lessons" or "Experience" and maybe you could team up with some of the PANDA guys for it also. The marketing approach is that you've learned through hard experience what it takes to make a coin successful. Then use the mistakes of the various team members to illustrate how this new coin is superior.
Bad reputations can be rehabilitated. Even taken advantage of. Celebrities and companies do it all the time. IBM used to be an evil empire, but hardly anyone remembers that now. Rob Lowe's career was completely dead there for a time and now he's a rising star. Not that your problems compare to those examples. Memory Coin left the door open for corrupt elements to enter it. I'm sure there were other mistakes too, but that was the big one.
Honest people would find this approach appealing and those are the kind of supporters you want anyway. Stories of redemption are very popular, so there'd be support coming from that angle too.
Bad reputations can be rehabilitated. Even taken advantage of. Celebrities and companies do it all the time. IBM used to be an evil empire, but hardly anyone remembers that now. Rob Lowe's career was completely dead there for a time and now he's a rising star. Not that your problems compare to those examples. Memory Coin left the door open for corrupt elements to enter it. I'm sure there were other mistakes too, but that was the big one.
Honest people would find this approach appealing and those are the kind of supporters you want anyway. Stories of redemption are very popular, so there'd be support coming from that angle too.
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MemoryCoin / Re: My investment is in FreeTrade
« on: April 23, 2014, 03:39:30 pm »I'll just leave this here in case anyone want to run with it . . .
http://www.dummies.com/how-to/content/the-canonization-process-for-sainthood.html
You're missing the point, as are a lot of people. Founders are an irrevocable part of the legacy of any project. One can't be separated from the other. Robber-barons start philanthropic foundations to take advantage of this concept.
Memory Coin is terminally ill and it's because of the mistakes you made setting it up originally. I don't think those mistakes were stupid, organizing people is one of the biggest challenges there is, but I also don't think you are a saint.
That being said, I hope you start another coin. You are very well educated in the process. There is no better education than making mistakes, and boy have you made your share!
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General Discussion / Re: How do DACs deal with justice?
« on: April 23, 2014, 03:21:23 pm »Not any dac, just DACs with direct democracy enforced by perceived legitimacy of the election process... The lesson is that MMC is a badly designed DAC.
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I'm okay with that. Not happy, but whatever...
Still, it seems that something should be done. They have started a forum independent of bitsharestalk.org, so locking the sub-forum here might not be a bad idea. Then it seems less of a "Bitshares Approved" project. At least then people won't come to it through Bitshares, and when they realize what a mess it is, blame it directly on Bitshares. It can succeed or fail on it's own merit.
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General Discussion / Re: How do DACs deal with justice?
« on: April 23, 2014, 02:45:56 pm »
Without justice, any DAC can easily be pulled down with whisper campaigns and rumor-mongering by subversive elements as is happening with Memory Coin.
Being that DACs are such a new concept, it seems there would be special interest when bugs show up in the system.
Being that DACs are such a new concept, it seems there would be special interest when bugs show up in the system.
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MemoryCoin / Re: My investment is in FreeTrade
« on: April 22, 2014, 07:41:41 pm »
"I'm putting a spotlight on the issues I don't want in the spot light" is what you are saying.
I have zero complaints about what you are doing. Cry away. Just because you got butt hurt for losing the art designing contest for a MMC logo, and you decided to try your turn at the next internet Dick Tracy which lead you to FreeTrade and your subsequent jabs at the current CEO doesn't bother me one bit. Just know that I will be there to correct your inexperienced view of events that unfolded when you most likely had no idea Bitcoin and the Alts even existed.
There is a reason no one has responded to your juvenile cry for help on the General Discussion board.
Twisting my words to suit your agenda, personal attacks against me and your attempts to direct attention away from your actions, illustrate your inability to justify your continued association with Memory Coin and presence on this forum.
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MemoryCoin / Re: My investment is in FreeTrade
« on: April 22, 2014, 06:56:59 pm »
You are exacerbating the very issue you are whining about which makes you a moron.
I'm putting a spotlight on the issue. If your actions were honorable, you wouldn't have any complaints about that.
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MemoryCoin / Re: My investment is in FreeTrade
« on: April 22, 2014, 05:50:11 pm »See https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=2047.msg24598#msg24598
Thank you for the link. I read the entire thread. Don't think I missed that it was started as a call to have you banned.
There is nothing there that changes my view of you or your influence on the coin. You are subverting and contaminating it and have been from the beginning. As long as your presence is tolerated the coin will never amount to anything. If DACs can't be constructed to deal with people like you, then they are all vulnerable.
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MemoryCoin / Re: My investment is in FreeTrade
« on: April 22, 2014, 03:32:07 pm »Wow, we have a fight between MemoryCoin's oldest squeaky wheel and MemoryCoin's newest squeaky wheel!
Please excuse my paraphrasing in the following:
newmine's position: FreeTrade is a self-serving jerk who has twisted and manipulated MemoryCoin from day 1.
Tigerlore's position: FreeTrade is a gift from the gods, our true savior and bringer of coin profits; anybody against him is "Too disturbed to create anything of value."
Let's see how this plays out!
So Memory Coin is a joke to you?
Creators of any sort are inextricably tied to their creations. Even FreeTrade could never completely break his ties to Memory Coin. There is a link there that cannot be undone.
Maybe FreeTrade is corrupt. If he is, then so is the coin and it should be abandoned by all. That corruption could never be expunged.
I've put out a call for an independent third-party investigation to be done https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=4324.0
Hopefully, this will get sorted out. If not then the coin is doomed and so are DACs, because what is happening here could happen to any of them.
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General Discussion / How do DACs deal with justice?
« on: April 22, 2014, 02:58:12 pm »
Memory Coin is dealing with an issue that should be of interest to anyone involved in DACs.
There is a treasonous element that is trying to divide the community. This has been going on for a long time and the coin won't survive if this element is allowed to persist. This could happen to any DAC and it will happen to others eventually. This could be a landmark case, depending on how it is handled. The founder of the coin is involved, so handling it internally is problematic.
A full investigation needs to be done, but here is a history of the case from the point of view of the treasonous element https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=4278.msg54278#msg54278
There is a treasonous element that is trying to divide the community. This has been going on for a long time and the coin won't survive if this element is allowed to persist. This could happen to any DAC and it will happen to others eventually. This could be a landmark case, depending on how it is handled. The founder of the coin is involved, so handling it internally is problematic.
A full investigation needs to be done, but here is a history of the case from the point of view of the treasonous element https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=4278.msg54278#msg54278
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MemoryCoin / Re: My investment is in FreeTrade
« on: April 22, 2014, 02:14:45 pm »
So you are the toxic element?
Yes your posts should be deleted. You should be banned from the forum entirely. You have and are continuing to commit treason. Even freedom of speech has limits.
That you persist in your delusions, despite your failure with MMC 1.0, is evidence of your insanity. You want to remake this coin in your own image and that is impossible. You are too disturbed to create anything of value. All you can do is contaminate and poison. You are gleefully cutting your own throat and encouraging others to do the same.
You should feel shame for what you are doing. You are to blame for suppressing the coin and it's supporters. Regret will be the only reward for your actions.
This man is an enemy of Memory Coin and the community, and so is anyone who aligns with him. He is what is wrong with Memory Coin.
Yes your posts should be deleted. You should be banned from the forum entirely. You have and are continuing to commit treason. Even freedom of speech has limits.
That you persist in your delusions, despite your failure with MMC 1.0, is evidence of your insanity. You want to remake this coin in your own image and that is impossible. You are too disturbed to create anything of value. All you can do is contaminate and poison. You are gleefully cutting your own throat and encouraging others to do the same.
You should feel shame for what you are doing. You are to blame for suppressing the coin and it's supporters. Regret will be the only reward for your actions.
This man is an enemy of Memory Coin and the community, and so is anyone who aligns with him. He is what is wrong with Memory Coin.
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MemoryCoin / Re: My investment is in FreeTrade
« on: April 22, 2014, 02:39:17 am »
Someone with a lot of MMC hijacked MMC 1.0 and corrupted it. That's a fact.
The MMC they had was converted, or whatever, to the MMC 2.0 currency. That is also a fact.
This person is a sick motherfucker. That's an opinion, but a hard one to argue against. And, the chances are, that they are still around with all the MMC they had plus what they have mined since. It is also a near certainty that they despise FreeTrade for shutting down MMC 1.0 and will do anything in their power to get him as far away from the coin as possible. Including spreading vicious rumors and opinions and supporting bullshit candidates.
I've referred to a toxic element in the community. This person is the toxic element. Him and the people who believe the poison he is spreading.
I'm not in a position to judge whether or not the coin can survive this twisted person's influence. If it can I'd like to be around to see it. If not, I hope FreeTrade starts another coin, with a clean slate, so I can be part of that.
If you believe the founder is shit, then the coin is shit. What the hell is wrong with you that you are still hanging around? There's tons of coins out there. Dump your MMC and find one you believe in. Sheesh! What's wrong with you people!?!
The MMC they had was converted, or whatever, to the MMC 2.0 currency. That is also a fact.
This person is a sick motherfucker. That's an opinion, but a hard one to argue against. And, the chances are, that they are still around with all the MMC they had plus what they have mined since. It is also a near certainty that they despise FreeTrade for shutting down MMC 1.0 and will do anything in their power to get him as far away from the coin as possible. Including spreading vicious rumors and opinions and supporting bullshit candidates.
I've referred to a toxic element in the community. This person is the toxic element. Him and the people who believe the poison he is spreading.
I'm not in a position to judge whether or not the coin can survive this twisted person's influence. If it can I'd like to be around to see it. If not, I hope FreeTrade starts another coin, with a clean slate, so I can be part of that.
If you believe the founder is shit, then the coin is shit. What the hell is wrong with you that you are still hanging around? There's tons of coins out there. Dump your MMC and find one you believe in. Sheesh! What's wrong with you people!?!
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