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General Discussion / Re: Bitshares equivalent to NYSE?
« on: August 05, 2015, 12:19:35 am »
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1] There will be LTC/BitUSD trading. I think that market will be smaller than LTC/(Some exchange).USD. Hopefully those markets are traded on Bitshares.
2] NYSE doesn't have a market cap of $16 trillion. The shares traded on it have a market cap of $16 trillion.  NYSE was purchased for $11 billion in 2013 .

1. I see
2. NYSE Euronext was purchased for $11Billion, I'm not saying wikipedia is the most reliable source for information, but it say's NYSE has a market cap of $16T according to wikipedia, other sources says $19.9T or 459,398,360,693 shares multiplied by $43.33 (June 2015)

Somebody please correct me if I'm wrong.

The stocks trading on the exchange are worth that much. The exchange itself is worth $11B.

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General Discussion / Re: Non-Bitcoinian Geometry
« on: July 24, 2015, 01:19:15 pm »
Non-Bitcoinian Geometry               

If we sacrifice broad token distributions, we can gain support from powerful investors and partners who are motivated by owning a bigger than average stake.

I know, I know.  “To be a valid currency, you need to have a wide distribution with no central concentrations of wealth or power.” But not every block chain has to be an unbacked currency.  We seem to be OK with stadium builders having the rights to sell tickets to every seat. If you are going to back a ticket with a seat, why can’t you back a token with an asset?  And why should you have to give those token-based rights to your assets away for free? 




Stop!  Red Flags!  Are you saying that we should do away with the current bitshares distribution and make one that accommodates large investors?  So give BTS owners only 20% in the new stake and 80% for the new chain to new partners? This was my greatest fear wit cryptomex.

Bitshares distribution won't change from what it is right now when migrating to 2.0

The only way for deep pockets to become large stakeholders is simply to buy more shares from weak hands. Which in turns can only be good for us, hodlers.

Edit: And I encourage any potential whale to significantly increase their position. We need long term whales, badly.

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We never know, it's way too early to say, but big headlines like that may happen in the future. Maybe not for the federal reserve though, they look like a bunch of dinosaurs who wield way too much power for their own good.

And anyway, any major institution willing to use the technology will never accept to use it to benefit the thousands of BTS shareholders. They'll try to create their own just to make sure they have total control over it.

BTS is doomed to stay a for profit, private business. So sad :P


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General Discussion / Re: Correction is over, wave 3 up to begin soon.
« on: July 22, 2015, 12:26:42 pm »
@ander, you seem to be accurate most of the time. I love your analysis !

I'm myself reading my first book on TA. Do you have in mind some books you would recommend me.

I'm a professional poker player since years now. I don't need to much information on bankroll managment and mindset. I'm use to deal with these things.

My main focus is learning the basics, have a solid knowledge ground to build on it.

Any recommendations ?

I myself enjoy playing (but I suck at it) and watching poker on tv! Have you played in any major tournament or are you more of a cash game guy?

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The little snowball rolling down the hill is starting to get momentum, great!!  +5%

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General Discussion / Re: Mt Gox - Is Graphene the Solution
« on: July 21, 2015, 05:24:50 pm »
I have a business with one of the co-founders of Kraken.  I was told under no circumstance will they work with us.  Ever.

Harsh!

I know, right?  That's what I said.

Did he expand on the reasons motivating such an answer?

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Random Discussion / Re: I'm questioning the Free Market (unusual)
« on: July 21, 2015, 02:28:07 pm »
Wow @BitcoinJesus2.O, I thought we wouldn't see you around here anymore!  :o

Good to see you still have some very pertinent comments to share with us, glad you're back! ;)

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General Discussion / Re: BTS 2.0 release date predictions
« on: July 21, 2015, 02:22:40 pm »
Considering there's a 30 day announce for the snapshot after the testing phase, the shortest delivery we can expect is at least 2 months upon release of the testnet.

BM expected the release of the said testnet before the end of July... Give 2-3 weeks more just because there's always delays... I would say mid to end of October.

If things don't go as planned, it could delay for a month or two more, bringing the release of 2.0 by the end of the year.

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I nominate @sapperstein  for negative 100 browniepoints (-100).

Since English is not everyone's first language on this forum or in our community, he is adding to potential confusion for no apparent reason with a deliberately misleading headline.

Please change your thread subject headline.

What an alienating response to somebody's first post / attempt at humor.

Where can I collect my negative brownie points?  Or does that mean I would owe somebody 100 brownie points?

Account: sapperstein

lol, I'll lend you negative brownie points. But they'll never show up on your balance, cause you can't have a negative balance in Bitshares. But trust me, you'll have them even if they don't appear in your balance.

But you'll owe me interest in positive brownie points for that loan. It's a win-win!  :D

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General Discussion / Re: No Sommer Announcements for the week?
« on: July 20, 2015, 07:06:43 pm »
it was very encouraging to have both Bytemaster and Stan respond to this post.  As a community member, I felt incumbent to push us and those around us to achieve more than we at first thought we could.  Its a duty and a privilege.  That was my goal of this post. 

Though, I feel that I need to share my opinion.  We should always be skeptical in what we see, hear and do.  We always have to be weary of the possibility that CMX and the other teams raise big expectations, and when they can't fully deliver, they compromise, giving the community less than what they get as a payoff from jumping ship.  If you don't mentally or financially prepare for this, I tihnk your opening yourself to big vulnerabilities.  And big losses. 

CMX will be working for another company, another bank, another Fortune 500.  The fact that they are a consulting group is very concerning.  Consulting don't have as much skin in the game because they have various income streams.  The Dev team are free to disagree.  But these are the facts.  They are diversified from the risks, unlike the community.  When it comes down to bottom line budgets and numbers, they can only give their attention to the community, only what is worth their time. They will have to prove (and I certainly believe they will) that its overwise true.  That you can have a world-class software consulting group, profitability operating within a self-organizing system. 

These are just my thoughts and I mean no hard or fault.  I'm just seeing things for what they are right now.

I'm not talking in the name of anybody else than mine, but here's the way I see it from the info I was able to gather while reading through the forum.

From my understanding, the objective of creating the consulting entity "Cryptonomex" was for the dev team to continue to be able to work full time on Graphene based solutions (or any other project related to blockchains) without having Bitshares to pay for the whole team full time. So basically CNX will work on a projet by project basis on Bitshares' features after 2.0 release. These features will be voted by the community and CNX will be paid according to the contract they propose and the Bitshares shareholders approve.

If for any reason Bitshares shareholders vote for less dilution, then there will be a reduction of the contracts awarded to CNX by Bitshares. But those guys still need to work. That's why consulting for blockchain based solutions in general is good. Because instead of having to get another day job somewhere else, they can still work for CNX. Otherwise CNX would lose some devs by lack of work load.

And saying CNX don't have skin in the game is not that true. The payment for CNX work on Bitshares will be shares that will have to vest during an extended period of time, as explained in the initial worker proposal by BM. So basically CNX will only have a big payday if Bitshares is successful in the next few years.

And as for risk diversification... Any investor is responsible for their risk management. If you feel having a consulting company leading Bitshares' development instead of a dedicated development team is bad in the long term, then you should invest accordingly.

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Technical Support / Re: Will bitassets in 2.0 Still Earn Interest?
« on: July 20, 2015, 06:23:40 pm »
Demand is currently higher than supply, that's why there's an almost 50k bitUSD wall at feed price. It's people waiting to be able to cover their expired short.

The money supply is either controlled by the demand or the supply, whichever is more restrictive. As shorts need to cover, they need to acquire bitUSD on the market. If none is for sale in the order book at parity, they either let their short expire and let it stand unfulfilled at feed price, waiting for someone else to short or sell in the wall, or they buy bitUSD at market price (a few % higher than parity), or they short to themselves (again at a % little higher than parity).

If there's not enough demand, then the shorts will stay unfilled in the order book, preventing new bitUSD creation. But shorts still have to cover each month. That means that if demands drop and everybody want to get rid of their bitUSD, there will be a bitUSD supply contraction as shorts cover their position and new shorts stay unfilled in the order book.

One could speculate on the reasons why there's more demand than supply right now, but my understanding is that somehow shorters are waiting on 2.0, or they're not bullish enough about Bitshares prospects.

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Well well.

Graphene as a material, maybe not worth all the hype.

Graphene as as blockchain, not really proven (or unproven) yet.

Both are totally different subjects though ;)

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General Discussion / Re: Dividend feature timeline?
« on: July 20, 2015, 02:05:14 pm »
The challenge is that the single operation is "unbounded" in the number of accounts it would have to credit.   If there are 1M people that need to receive the dividend then that single operation could take a very long time to apply and that would disrupt the flow of the network.

Recognizing this as something that would be nice to automate I will think about it.  It is not on our current issue list on github though.

I feel it's an essential feature in order for Bitshares to operate as an asset exchange market.

Dividends are essentially outside money regularly flowing into Bitshares (ie. when AAPL pays cash dividends, I'm forced to buy BitUSD with the cash and distribute to my investors, this will significantly help the valuation of BTS price.)

What you're saying is basically to emulate the dividend given by the original share from let's say AAPL, you would be buying the real stock using the money made from the UIA sale and then pay back the dividend you receive from the real asset?

Wouldn't the UIA holders be penalized by the spread and fees and receive less than intended?

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General Discussion / Re: Bitshares price discussion
« on: July 20, 2015, 01:25:14 pm »
Finally we get a decent "pump" while all other top 10 cryptos are roughly stable  8)

Let's hope it keeps on going!

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General Discussion / Re: Bitshares price discussion
« on: July 17, 2015, 08:01:39 pm »
As long as there's no official announcement regarding any partnership with a bank I wouldn't count too much on it. It's nice to hint at discussions with an interested potential banking partner, just to keep us on our toes, but I won't get too excited before it's official. There's way to many things that can go wrong in these kind of discussions. But those discussions happening is a good sign nonetheless!

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