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General Discussion / Re: Leveraged Trade
« on: December 09, 2015, 02:16:27 am »
Thanks for posting your feedback :)

I understand Cryptonomex is delivering margin trading in in the next few months.

I follow these forums very closely and I have not heard that they will be delivering margin trading/bond market any time in the near future.

It sounds like stealth transactions are first and that isn't scheduled to be done until mid February

I'm going to default to your recollection then.  I must be remembering something that was said in a mumble session about polo-style margin trading being easy enough to implement.  good thing I can proxy my votes. ...

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General Discussion / Re: Leveraged Trade
« on: December 08, 2015, 11:42:45 pm »
Thanks for posting your feedback :)

I understand Cryptonomex is delivering margin trading in in the next few months.

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General Discussion / Re: New website for BitShares 2.0.
« on: December 07, 2015, 11:16:13 pm »
I'm attempting to build a new website dedicated to BitShares 2.0.
http://neura-sx.github.io
(Please note that this is just a draft, an attempt to collect and structure the information. Once I complete this stage, I'll start thinking about the actual design and styling.)

I'm trying to create something that would feel much more up-to-date when compared to bitshares.org and at the same time a bit less technical than cryptofresh.com and a bit more lightweight when compared to dposhub.com.

Also something that would leverage the power of this community and present how lively this community is to the outside world.
As we have it now, when an outsider takes a look at our official website s/he can easily conclude that nothing is going on.
On the other hand, when s/he lands on this forum it can be quite overwhelming as there is too much information to digest in order to extract any sense out of it.

So the purpose is to keep updated all those of us who do care about BitShares but do not have enough time to follow the forum closely and participate in Mumble hangouts on a regular basis.
It will initially be targeted at current BTS holders / community members but eventually also taking care of absolute beginners.
At the same time it also aims to offer a quick overview to the outside world about people behind BitShares, third-party projects in the BitShares ecosystem and major milestones being achieved - all this valuable information that our official website does not deliver.

This is what I badly need to be able to proceed:
(1) Your suggestions about what other pieces of information this website should include.
(2) Your help to fill the missing data (especially the witness section has lots of missing info).
(3) Your feedback regarding the correctness of the statements that I've made when comparing BitShares to other products.

Thank you.

Great idea.  Perhaps a section for "Entrepreneurs"

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General Discussion / Re: Any interest in a more modern Discussion board?
« on: December 06, 2015, 04:06:26 pm »
I wouldn't expect this to happen overnight, but why not consider it?

http://flarum.org/features/

Reasons:

- Attaching images is archaic with phpBB
- formatting text is archaic
- URLs are cryptic
- Page reloads are required for every post (as opposed to live streaming and sockets)
- General UX is terrible with phpBB (it was awesome in 2005, but it's not so awesome now)

+5%

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cool thanks, and by the way, what do you think is going to happen if we change the name of bitUSD besides mass confusion, FUD, and a new all time low?

What does "bux" or "bucks" mean outside of the US borders? and who cares about a dying dynasty?

fad much?

think long term


The wallet provider can call the BitUSD whatever they like!   It's their wallet and they control the presentation.  No need to change anything at protocol level.  You pointed out Nubits holders don't give two flying brownies about Nushares.  The same will be true of Bux or BitUSD holders.   
We should encourage entrepreneurs to do any sort of branding they like.  For instance, an entrepreneur who focuses on a specific market segment, such as Greece, should come up with a name that resonates with the people in that market.  We should not restrain our entrepreneurs from developing smaller network effects based on different brands around the world.  Many small network effects is the best approach.  This is an elephant and we need to take one bite at a time.  Whether we call this an "elephant" or "guapo" or "mammoth" should not matter, as long as we are taking bites and recruiting others to help us take bites, eventually we will eat the entire thing, it's just a matter of how to do we tell people there is an "elephant" here and its free for to bite off as much as you can chew.


ps.  Some are relying too much on the first wallet that came out, esp in regard to payments and tipping.  That wallet has an insane number of features, which are far too cumbersome to drive mass adoption!  We need to target MARKET SEGMENTS with SPECIFIC WEB APPLICATIONS if we are going to find the many small successes we need to bring people to BitShares.  Better yet, we need to bring people to Bitshares probably without them knowing we brought them to Bitshares.

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General Discussion / New Users
« on: December 03, 2015, 12:23:30 am »
Could we funnel our Guests into becoming Active Forum members?

Maybe converting guests has little value, but I for one see it strange we always seem to have 3:1 guests to registered.

A nice sign like "Stay a while and listen", as Deckard Cain says, "or register on the forum for free Digital Tokens."

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I was thinking about this, originally people didn't want this to be a thing because it would cause trouble in China. However, since OpenLedger is a 3rd party service, you'll be able to integrate all sorts of things right?

It won't affect BitShares in general because it isn't integrated in BitShares per se, but on a 3rd party wallet right?

I agree with this line of thinking.  Any 3rd party service is a CURATOR and should be able to make business decisions that reflect their prerogatives.

The more options that are in the blockchain code the more creativity we will see from entrepreneurs.

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General Discussion / Re: [ANN - AMA] bitCash - Digital Money of the Future!
« on: November 22, 2015, 03:28:22 pm »
Great project! let me know how I can help .. from nyc

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General Discussion / Re: [ANN]Now Open: ShareBits CrowdDonations
« on: November 18, 2015, 02:24:36 am »
sorry if this is located in this thread somewhere ... but how does the tipping bot interact with the referrals?

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i think percantage based fees are hard if not impossible to implement. I think it would be easier to just peg the tx fees to USD

If impossible, fine.  Although it seems it works just fine everywhere else, though I don't claim to know the technical implications.  If its just difficult, that is no excuse.

as for pegging to USD.  Why not peg to RMB or EUR?  is bitshares a US network for US business? I understand USD is "world reserve" currency but it does not make sense to be so.  Fee should be based on something neutral like BTS simply, or if you must, perhaps a basket of currencies/commodities.  How about the average of 20% the cost of a loaf of bread from around the world.  It might be $.20 here but how about India, Mexico, or China.

Agreed. We may not want this message,

"With Bitshares You can send your money anywhere in the world, EXCEPT Asia and Africa, because they can't afford our fee system"

All things considered, I imagine it still costs more on all other systems in Africa and Asia.  Remittance can be 6% or more.

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Regarding transfer fee...
Some think that the fee should be high enough to sustain referral system.
Some other think that the current fee is too high so we need to decrease the fee.

Can we make an agreement in between? I suggested 30 BTS because it decrease the fee somewhat significantly and is still high.

I believe our problem stems from the idea that fees are considered in USD and BTS.  In BTS terms 60 is high for anyone bullish on the token. In USD terms it's really godamn cheap.  I'm okay with a compromise but would prefer to always try to price the fee in USD.  That's what SmartCoins are all about after all.

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What most people seem to be forgetting about this fee reduction is, once you reduce it, there is NO going back. People just won't accept increasing the fees even if just a little. Even if the amount if insignificant.

That's not true. The BTC community have accepted that they must use higher fees when there's a TX backlog.

price changes upward are often extremely difficult on customers psychologically.  there are studies available on Google. 

The goal here should be profitability - fighting for thin slices of margin when it's not necessary is not capitalistic.

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General Discussion / Re: Transfer Fee Price Survey
« on: November 16, 2015, 05:11:56 pm »

Regarding transfer only.

A) $0.20      (Too expensive)
B) $0.003    (Too cheap)
C) $0.10    (Getting expensive)
D) $0.02   (Good Value)

+1

pc what is your outlook on marketing and the referral program?  just genuinely trying to understand where low fee guys see that going.

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General Discussion / Re: Reasons for Lowering Fees
« on: November 15, 2015, 10:15:14 pm »

@clayop I do believe both camps have the best interest of BTS at heart. Disagreeing on the path to achieve that better future is a GOOD thing!

@clayop, I also believe that you have the best intentions at heart but please note that by continuing this campaign your are effectively:
(a) breaking a social contract that was agreed in June.
(b) dismantling the emerging business ecosystem around BitShares 2.0.

Hopefully BM's vote will prevent this craziness but this is a very bad symptom of not being able to think outside one's own perspective.
Actually it's quite selfish and short-sighted.

This is bad and feels that it could well lead to a fork. Hopefully neither constituency walks out, but if it has to be done, I'm with the side that encourages marketers to build marketing tools.  Like ShareBot.

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Have a heart - Social tipping ShareBits.io makes real-time donations “a walk in the park”!


When you tip are required to pay the standard BTS transfer fee?
Also presumably to claim it, the receiver would have to pay the standard BTS transfer fee at least once to send it to an exchange?

both correct, however the account is a lifetime account, the network fee is still charged, but the fees paid by the user on claim are distributed to share holders as dividens.

who gets the referral credit?

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