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General Discussion / Re: Escrow for BTS X Buyers/Sellers
« on: July 20, 2014, 12:29:37 am »
Ok. I'll bite. I'm divesting BTSX. What price do you have for me?

Its an escrow, not an offer to sell..

I can sell you my BTSX, but they are not cheap :)

@ 0.00003 for >= 100k, (more if you want smaller amount)   :)

I can also buy at  0.0000085 

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General Discussion / Saturday fever?
« on: July 19, 2014, 10:34:23 pm »

Should BTS X be launched on a date that toast is obviously sick from the early morning  (0 post for the day)

And BM retired from duty in the early afternoon hours,… good southern style but please…

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which is great because now we have greater privacy :)

how many BTSX you have?

Not enough - You?

I buy BTS X for LTB Coins 1:1.
PM me if interested.  :)

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General Discussion / Re: Escrow for BTS X Buyers/Sellers
« on: July 19, 2014, 09:25:06 pm »
Me too  :)

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General Discussion / Re: Escrow for BTS X Buyers/Sellers
« on: July 19, 2014, 09:14:46 pm »
It is not an exchange yet.

It is just (another) coin :)

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General Discussion / Re: Escrow for BTS X Buyers/Sellers
« on: July 19, 2014, 09:03:13 pm »
***Reserved***

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General Discussion / [OUTDATED]
« on: July 19, 2014, 09:02:56 pm »
 [OUTDATED]

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General Discussion / Re: Bootstrapping a BitAsset
« on: July 19, 2014, 08:57:47 pm »
You can make the window a tad wider and the pay rate column will show up on the delegates tab where you can see them all.


Which window???

 I see them only under ‘Directory’ and there is no such column there…

Is there a command?

blockchain_list_delegates lists only active one…

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General Discussion / Re: BTSX trade is open on btc38
« on: July 19, 2014, 07:28:38 pm »

I honestly do not know where bter publishes this but it is slightly wrong  :)

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General Discussion / Re: Bootstrapping a BitAsset
« on: July 19, 2014, 07:25:52 pm »
We are putting more and more pressure on voting. What are the incentives to vote again?
I don't mind expecting delegates to provide price feeds because it's a simple task to do and is easy to verify they are doing it.  It requires similar competencies as writing blocks: reliably perform a simple task with great up-time.  Either they are doing it or they are not and it's easy to see which ones are.  So voting is easy and if a couple delegates are messing up it's not the end of the world because the others pick up the slack until they are removed.

I share your concern with regard to the "soft approach" as I think it is expecting a lot out of the voting process.  You are now expecting delegates to all make good "judgement calls" about selectively excluding transactions and then expecting voters to judge their judgement... this makes me nervous.

The incentives to vote are similar to shareholders of any company.  But voting in our system is easier; you can do it with a couple mouse clicks.  Info/data to make good decisions will be readily available(contrast this with people standing in line to vote in a presidential election, ostensibly the only incentive is the 1 in a million chance that you are the deciding vote between corrupt politician A vs corrupt politician B.)

I hope voting does not turn into full time job!

I don't think it will... I think people will only come out to vote when there is a problem and there is no reason for there to be problems all the time.

From what I see from the test up to now it is more than full time... you have to click on each one individually to see just his pay rate...

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General Discussion / Re: BTSX trade is open on btc38
« on: July 19, 2014, 07:01:46 pm »

Any update when the deposit/withdrawals will start on BTER and/or BTC38?

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Are those still the correct settings?

... they do not work for me  :-*

Label:  BeyondBitcoin
Address: vx31.commandchannel.com
Port: 2077
Username: "Your Forum Handle Here"
Password: w0rldCh@NG3rsUN!t3

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General Discussion / Re: Team is hard at work...
« on: July 19, 2014, 12:25:59 am »

Plusses thread, yet again!

 I love them as you know - very informative, some would say inspiring.

Here he comes, Simeon II - the hero member!

 +5%

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General Discussion / Re: My friends, gather closely.
« on: July 19, 2014, 12:07:37 am »

I wouldn't think anything of it without the back-story but there does seem to at least be the potential for corporate sabotage 101 in this thread.

If you wanted to seriously damage BitShares your best bet would be to try to influence BitShares into doing something with one product that could severely damage the credibility & ethics of the whole brand...

The Nxt team got two of the three right, but succumbed to greed for the distribution. Ironically, if they had simply given the coin away via a snapshot distribution and bought up cheap coins during the initial launch, then they probably would have had similarly sized stakes without any fairness fallout. This action would have also created the perception of demand for Nxt, combined with clever marketing, could have made it a legitimate contender to replace bitcoin (and why not, roger will still have a lot of Nxt).


Find a wealthy benefactor to bootstrap the development and to set a price floor during the launch of the coin receiving 50 percent of the developer's stake as collateral. Seems like a pretty easy way to bootstrap a legitimate competitor of bitcoin.

. Which they wouldn't.
Both those seem to involve suggestions for potentially deceiving the market via potential price or perceived fairness manipulation. Obviously that would be a PR trap/nightmare if there was any indication BitShares used and perhaps even contemplated them as a strategy
But in future when there are fair share-drops and high natural valuations, if enough people respond positively to other parts of Charle's ideas in this thread then it may be enough to for detractors to link back to,  to suggest that BitShares has seriously considered and therefore may be going about business in an underhanded way. ('They're only doing sharedrops to be perceived as fair and then buying up big stakes for nearly free', or that the 'DAC's have high prices because BitShares has whales artificially supporting them'  etc.)

It's probably nothing, but then again it could be...




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5rRZdiu1UE (Just the Beasties boys sabotage song)



Both those seem to involve suggestions for potentially deceiving the market via potential price or perceived fairness manipulation. Obviously that would be a PR trap/nightmare if there was any indication BitShares used and perhaps even contemplated them as a strategy


What the hell are you talking about?
You just publicly say – We strongly believe in the value of our company. To prove that we will use up to that and that dollar amount to buy back our shares from everybody willing to sell.
What PR nightmare?

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General Discussion / Re: Bootstrapping a BitAsset
« on: July 18, 2014, 06:14:15 pm »
We are putting more and more pressure on voting. What are the incentives to vote again?
I don't mind expecting delegates to provide price feeds because it's a simple task to do and is easy to verify they are doing it.  It requires similar competencies as writing blocks: reliably perform a simple task with great up-time.  Either they are doing it or they are not and it's easy to see which ones are.  So voting is easy and if a couple delegates are messing up it's not the end of the world because the others pick up the slack until they are removed.

I share your concern with regard to the "soft approach" as I think it is expecting a lot out of the voting process.  You are now expecting delegates to all make good "judgement calls" about selectively excluding transactions and then expecting voters to judge their judgement... this makes me nervous.

The incentives to vote are similar to shareholders of any company.  But voting in our system is easier; you can do it with a couple mouse clicks.  Info/data to make good decisions will be readily available(contrast this with people standing in line to vote in a presidential election, ostensibly the only incentive is the 1 in a million chance that you are the deciding vote between corrupt politician A vs corrupt politician B.)

I hope voting does not turn into full time job!

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