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General Discussion / Marketing actions from the community
« on: May 25, 2014, 04:49:52 pm »
A couple of suggestions:

1) We should all change our profile pictures in FB and tweeter with a nice bitshares logo

Bitshares Logo ideas:

a)  "The revolution has started"
     Bitshares Logo
     "visit bitshares.org"

b) "Decentralise everything"
     Bitshares Logo
     "visit bitshares.org"

c)  "Re imagine everything"
     Bitshares Logo
     "visit bitshares.org"

d) "Buy your bitshares now and retire sooner"
 Bitshares Logo (with the background of an amazing beach) Liondani can you please make something like this? Put i.e Elafonissos beach
     "visit bitshares.org"

Please post here some logos I can then easily transform to jpeg format.

2) All future DACs should be aware how this community appreciates when they honor AGS. Since Freetrade has decided to honor AGS, I would suggest that in FB and Tweeter we let our friends and followers know about it. Let's all advertise his DAC! In your status in these forums or any other forum you use just update a couple of times your status with something like "Lottoshares honor now AGS/PTS shareholders"

3) We need to approach new investors outside crypto.
Whenever you go meet with VCs or do an interview wear a shirt and a tie! We like to invest in the most "clever geek, nerd" so we might not care about ties and dressing code. Investors with serious money outside crypto want to see the guy who tries to convince them about their product to wear a tie! I am in the banking and finance industry for more than 12 years and I can assure you that these Fu...rs do pay a lot of attention to the tie and the costumes!!

4) Within July, if all goes well, I will most probably introduce Bitcoin as a method of payment in a very popular well known Hotel, a bar restaurant (both located in the center of Athens fully booked by tourists all year around) and in a shop located in the most known shopping mall in Athens.  I would like to put a bitshares logo as well on their site. But they might not want to. But also they might change their mind if we could send them some free PTS for marketing purpose...
The point is, when someone is willing to put Bithsares logo on their site and keep it for at least a year, an idea would be that the community or I3 estimates depending on the shop the marketing benefit and offer some PTS to the owner and to the community member who did the introduction...

Any thoughts?












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General Discussion / Re: BitShares PTS2 - Community Input Thread
« on: May 21, 2014, 09:02:39 pm »
2 questions:

Will the PTS1 honor of PTS2 will happen in all the exchanges or do we need to move the PTS1 to our personal wallets?

Have all the exchanges been informed?

1 proposal for spending the remaining PTS:

I am not sure if this is possible without scaming the project with fake IDs since my IT knowledge is basic. Is it possible to use for example Kehotee founders as promoters of PTS2? For example if a kehotee founder refers a friend to download Kehotee the founder receives x PTS2 for his referral and the new user xPTS2 for free? I can keep explaining for ever to my friends about cryptocurrencies and no one will ever use it. But if I explain them that by doing this and that they get equivalent to $20 for free then they will try it! And explaining to our friends who know nothing about cryptos exactly the steps they have to do to claim their shares requires time so the one who is performing this should be also rewarded somehow.

My point is that we need to create a new market using future DACs with users who have money but are afraid or do not know how to use cryptos. Giving free money to those people will get their interest irrespective of their wealth. I don't know if you agree with me but rich people get more crazy about free money than poor people. My boss earns 5 times my salary and he negotiates a $1,000 bill to get a discount of $5.

We need to use the remaining PTS to attract also people outside the existing crypto users. It is time to expand. In the end of the day, attracting people outside the existing cryptospace by giving them free money can have only 2 consequences:

a) They learn what they got and most probably will not even bother to sell it. They will be just happy that they got something for free. Therefore PTS are not massively sold causing a fall in price. If they never ever use their share, it will be like burning the PTS and creating more dividends for the rest of us.

b) They learn what they got, get interested and inject more money in the system.

Win win situation!
 


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General Discussion / Re: AskADoctor.dac (Healthshares)
« on: May 21, 2014, 08:33:44 pm »
As I said...

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Yes... Dejavu... : someone from this community has a good idea, we don't pay much attention and get the ball rolling, someone else from another community picks that up, make a DAC and get all the benefits...

I think from now own you guys should STOP throwing any more ideas!!! Whoever has an idea just go for it, make a DAC, wait for Bitshares ME, just honor AGS/PTS and that's it...

This forum has by far the best ideas I have seen so far and the members of this forum are the only ones who do not benefit from these ideas...

If I soon see an altcoin pop up out of nowhere and use DPOS before we do I will be very upset!!

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General Discussion / Re: BitShares PTS2 - Community Input Thread
« on: May 21, 2014, 02:25:50 pm »
expected date for the transition? 1week?, 2 weeks?, 3 weeks? ,1 month?, +2 months?

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General Discussion / Re: Rest in Peace, DA
« on: May 21, 2014, 02:22:02 pm »
 
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Fair enough for me :-)

i am running in full-t(h)rust mode :-)

 +5% from me as well. I would rather have 15% less shares and this 15% is well spent to create serious media buzz rather than have 15% more on some shares that are constantly lose their value...

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What part do you not get?

What part you do not get?

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This is great!  Incentivize every customer to recruit 2 or 3 more customers.  Explosive growth.  "Like bacteria in a petri dish."

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General Discussion / Re: BitShares PTS2 - Community Input Thread
« on: May 21, 2014, 12:40:17 pm »
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correction to the below... PTS Snapshot in BTER I understand will give you the balance from the BTS snapshot...

However if they can do something similar so the moment that your PTS2 snapshot is taken, they credit your balance with PTS2 that would be great. It will be a fair solution for the ones that want to sell their PTS1 after the snapshot without having network delays to send the funds from our wallets to the exchange...

Can this be done?

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General Discussion / Re: Rest in Peace, DA
« on: May 21, 2014, 12:38:48 pm »
 +5%

This is exactly what I was saying...
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Personally I can't wait for PTS2. And I don't care about the extra 15% dividend as long it creates a media buzz!

the 15% should be donated for this kind of marketing. But it should be very transparent so you do not have "premine" accusations, or money for salaries etc... Make a good marketing plan and execute it in a transparent way!

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General Discussion / Re: BitShares PTS2 - Community Input Thread
« on: May 21, 2014, 12:21:51 pm »
correction to the below... PTS Snapshot in BTER I understand will give you the balance from the BTS snapshot...

However if they can do something similar so the moment that your PTS2 snapshot is taken, they credit your balance with PTS2 that would be great. It will be a fair solution for the ones that want to sell their PTS1 after the snapshot without having network delays to send the funds from our wallets to the exchange...

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General Discussion / Re: BitShares PTS2 - Community Input Thread
« on: May 21, 2014, 12:16:02 pm »
In BTER under wallet balances there is PTS and there is PTS Snapshot. Anyone knows what this is? Can we send PTS in BTER and once the snapshot is taken the PTS2 balance will appear as well? If that is what it is can we do this in cryptsy as well?

What are the risks that BTER closes down because it is a Chinese website?

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General Discussion / Re: BitShares PTS2 - Community Input Thread
« on: May 21, 2014, 11:35:52 am »
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simple is the best

steps:

1. Notice Snapshot time  in advance & contact the exchange(mainly  BTC38&BTER )publish announcement
2. 3I  announce DACs will honor PTS2.0&AGS instead of PTS1.0&AGS
3. the exchange(mainly  BTC38&BTER ) stop trading(just like 2.28)
4. Snapshot of PTS1.0  & Release PTS2.0 client (with genesis block honoured the PTSer in Snapshot)
5. the exchange(mainly  BTC38&BTER ) start   trading  of PTS2.0


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Put  the  unmined PTS  into DAC fund。 Promote the development of  DAC ecosystem。

This is the best solution I have heard so far! The only difference to previous proposals is that by not completely kill PTS1, once the snapshot is done and PTS2 is mapped to PTS1, some people might be able to sell their PTS1 to others who haven't followed the thread. Obviously, if we can sell to others  worthless PTS1 after the snapshot of PTS2 for anything it is always good but that doesn't make it fair though and might hurt the marketing efforts...

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General Discussion / Re: Rest in Peace, DA
« on: May 21, 2014, 11:16:58 am »
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3I sucks the remaining unmined PTS into their own holding. No matter what they say and what they intend to do with those PTS, it is under their control. I wonder why they are so reluctant to spend the AGS fund to do all the marketing and bounties.
Why is it a bad thing? It's because I don't trust 3I anymore. They've become the single point of failure in the whole project. In regard to the AGS fund, they are not open to suggestions from the community. And the worst part is that they seem to keep the AGS fund as their salaries for the next several years. Salaries! Not for the development of the whole industry.
I'm sorry, but what you said about PTS is completely incomprehensible to me. Here's what I think of PTS: PTS and AGS will get equal share of other DACs if they can ever launch successfully: that's basically the intrinsic value of PTS and AGS. According the current ratio between PTS and AGS, a reasonable man would donate AGS, in sacrifice of the liquidity of PTS. This is the evil side of AGS: If you donate PTS in exchange for AGS, the donated PTS goes to 3I but they still have equity among those DACs; if you donate BTC in exchange for AGS, those BTC don't have equity value. And the price of PTS depends on this ratio, which inherently lost value. Simply put, 3I launched AGS to tax the PTS holders on stupidity, and the PTS holders don't have other choice since 3I makes the rules! Do the math yourselves, guys!

I think you are missing the point here... I3 is currently the bigger shareholder of AGS / PTS so if they fail, they will lose a lot of money as well. Of course we will lose proportionally a lot more because we have made a very bad investment whereby I3 will have some BTCs and some money a long the way. So the question is do you believe that all this is a scam? If yes then you shouldn't have invested in the first place. If you don't think it is a scam then...patience my friend...I am sure in the end you won't be disappointing. You may have done better if you have invested in some other coins (NXT, DRK,BC) and you would have already x2,x5,x10 already, whereby now it will take obviously more time to get these profits,  but I think that once they deliver it will worth the patience. In the end of the day these are all new!

Having said all that, it is not a bad thing that most of the shares belong to the ones that are trying to deliver the product and all the future products that will honor the social consensus because sharks will always eat the small fishes..

Personally I can't wait for PTS2. And I don't care about the extra 15% dividend as long it creates a media buzz!

The only thing that I believe I3 is doing really bad so far is that they have not used the AGS funding effectively. But I am believe that once they deliver Bitshares X they will start using all this funding more effectively (hire 10 times more developers, major marketing efforts, create media buzz, educate people outside cryptos the benefits of DACs etc...)




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General Discussion / Re: Rest in Peace, DA
« on: May 21, 2014, 09:56:26 am »
I really don't get what is the frustration here...

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Every PTS share holder will now ALSO own a PTS2 share!

The plan is to distribute the remaining PTS to the existing PTS holders and create 2 mil PTS2 which will also be distributed to the existing PTS holders, or I miss understood something?
For every PTS we hold we will get now +15% PTS and 1PTS2? PTS2 will not need any mining and will be liquid?

How on earth can this not be good?

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General Discussion / Re: AskADoctor.dac (Healthshares)
« on: May 20, 2014, 01:10:23 pm »
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Anyhow I put my idea out there. Study it and if the time comes where it begins to make sense then this thread will be pulled up.
Agree to that :)

Yes... Dejavu... : someone from this community has a good idea, we don't pay much attention and get the ball rolling, someone else from another community picks that up, make a DAC and get all the benefits...

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General Discussion / Re: AskADoctor.dac (Healthshares)
« on: May 19, 2014, 08:45:04 pm »
I like the idea and actually to be applied in all kind of professions not only healthcare somehow...

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What if you want to sell an answer to a question? What if you want to buy an answer to a question? What if you want professionals to bet on whether or not the answer is correct?
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 +5% to the above but...

I don't think it is very easy though since everyone can search on the net for healthcare advice from doctors and anything basically for free. But even if you can find anything you want for free people still visit their doctor who they know and trust.

Therefore for healthshares or any other proffesionshare to succeed people behind those shares should be well known names and not anyone. And if you find those few strong names and you form the DAC team it is again centralised and no different than just pay them for advice.

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General Discussion / Re: Bitshares slogans
« on: May 19, 2014, 08:23:42 pm »
Get your Shares Now or Cry a Bit Later!

Trust your bits

Make profit not War

In technology we trust

Technology evolution

No more counter party exposure

Reduce unnecessary costs

Become an early shareholder

 

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