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Stakeholder Proposals / Re: Vote for me :)
« on: August 25, 2014, 09:35:54 pm »
First and formost you need to become a trusted member of the community ... that help ALOT!
Or you come up with a fancy business plan that shareholdders like!!

Thank you for the advice. I have decent trust feedback on Bitcointalk if that counts for anything. I also maintain a thread for innovative crypto currencies that I have rated Bitshares pretty highly on. :)

Trust: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=67959
Member since 2012: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile
My thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=225659.0

I have also handled over 1000 Bitcoins in the past year and a half with Bitcoin ASIC group buys... I am pretty trustworthy IMO:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=157930.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=268280.0

People also trusted me enough to buy over 4000 physical Litecoins that I assembled, this is my business (although I'm taking a break from it for a bit): cryptovest.com

I might try and come up with a business plan similar to my Cryptovest business... like making physical Bitshares with the profits from the delegation.. that might work... you tell me. I'm already charging 75% less than most of the delegates.. so I guess that is kind of like a business plan.. more fees for you guys. ;D

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Stakeholder Proposals / Re: New delegate, longtime supporter
« on: August 25, 2014, 09:23:34 pm »
Hi man,

I voted for you. Plz vote for me too.

Good luck :)

Great thanks, I have done so as well.
I do have a question for everyone.  What is the proper way to vote for delgates?  After using the wallet_approve_delegate command, do we then go into the Vote section of My accounts, and run  the Update Votes command?

Lol, I'm not sure what that button does (the update votes button), but I'd recommend not using it. I got on the wrong chain I think after clicking it.. I had no balance anymore and was freaking out all day. After many failed syncs and block chain downloads I finally fixed it after the 3rd or 4th try. I'd just leave it alone.. I thought I lost my BTSX for a bit.  >:(

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Stakeholder Proposals / Re: Vote for me :)
« on: August 25, 2014, 09:19:07 pm »
Whats a guy gotta do to get some votes around here?!  8)

Hopefully I don't have to resort to this level! (NSFW) http://youtu.be/P-hUV9yhqgY

In all seriousness, how did some people get something like 200 million plus votes?? I paid 25$ for this VPN so I want to try and make this work, any suggestions would be welcome on how to gain votes. I'll probably just cancel it in a month if I fail. Why only 101 delegates..? That kind of sucks. :(

Thanks for any help

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Technical Support / Re: Help, balance is not showing
« on: August 25, 2014, 08:49:49 pm »
Same thing happened to me, a rescan didn't work either.

Back up your wallet and try this: https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=6386.msg85531#msg85531

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Stakeholder Proposals / Re: New delegate, longtime supporter
« on: August 25, 2014, 03:25:12 pm »
Hi man,

I voted for you. Plz vote for me too.

Good luck :)

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Can anyone tell me if I am showing up on the alternate delegate list?? I am trying to search for my name on there but it isn't popping up. For some reason it says I have no votes, but I voted for myself so I should have some, right? xD

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The more women the better.  ;)

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Stakeholder Proposals / Vote for me :)
« on: August 25, 2014, 02:27:49 pm »
Hi,

I'm not sure if it's too late to try to get votes or not. It seems like most people in the top 101 started a month or two ago but I thought I would try nonetheless.

I have been around the crypto currency community for a couple years and mostly hang out on bitcointalk. I have been supporting Bitshares and shutting down FUDsters over there... fighting the good fight. :)

I would appreciate your vote if you have some free time. I setup a digital ocean VPS running on Ubuntu at 75% pay rate, so it should be pretty low latency and stable.

wallet_approve_delegate del.coinhoarder

Thanks for your time,

Ch

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Oh ok, that's why it's not working.

Feel free to vote for me.. just got everything set up on a digital ocean VPS in San Fran w/ Ubuntu.. should be stable and such.  ;D

wallet_approve_delegate delegate.coinhoarder

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Can you only publish the feed if you're in the top 101???

& does it cost anything to publish the feed?

I did the command, but I'm not showing up.  :(

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just also make a backup of the wallet using the buil-tin backup function ... you will get a backupJSON file .. make sure to also write down your passphrase as the private keys in that file are encrypted!
... in contrast to the raw private keys you used above!

Ok, will do. I was trying to import the encrypted private key via the json file earlier. I guess I probably could of done it that way too, but I was messing up somewhere in the process. The way you provided is much easier. I will definitely get everything backed up, already got the passphrase stored away safely!

Thanks for your help, I'll send u a little something.. I don't have much (like $20 total lol) but I'll send some of it.  :D

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wallet_dump_private_key <delegatename or account key>

wallet_import_private_key <private_key_from_above>

make sure to enable block production with
wallet_delegate_enable_block_production .. or so

Beautiful. Thank you so much, I was making it much harder than it needed to be.

I had a feeling I was doing something wrong..

Thanks again buddy :)

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Technical Support / Exporting from Windows wallet and importing on Linux
« on: August 25, 2014, 12:55:56 pm »
Hi,

I am in the process trying to setup a delegate rig. I already registered an account and a delegate sub account on the windows client, and would like to import the accounts into the client running on my Ubuntu VPS.

Is there an easy way to do this? I can't seem to figure it out.. it is not quite as straight forward as importing a Bitcoin private key. :(

Thanks for help

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You did a great job CoinHoarder!  +5%

Good to see Bytemaster's post as well.  Bitcoin 2.0 forum their would be great.

Thank you sir, yes it was nice to see Bytemaster show up in that thread. I think most if it is unfortunately just FUD and ignorance, but that is just how Bitcointalk is and I have grown to tolerate it to an extent. There are a few posters that literally all they do is troll and spread FUD, so I just learn who these people are and ignore them for the most part and only try to help people that are genuinely confused and/or innocently ignorant.

Cheers

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General Discussion / Re: Press Releases
« on: August 24, 2014, 12:03:25 am »
They can try to clone things but a clone isn't going to do any good if the innovation comes from the main chain and the clone just copies.

The problem is that the innovation is a public good since it is all open source software (I am making the assumption that one will not be able/willing to use state coercion to enforce copyright law to ban clones that do not follow the social consensus). So if the BTC community were to all come to a consensus that the BitShares toolkit is superior, they could clone and immediately get every benefit we have in addition to the very important added benefit of network effect. Further innovation can also be copied, and besides, the likelihood of further innovation being funded by the smaller chain's stakeholders decreases because of the free rider problem.

I agree that if Bitcoin decided to implement some features of Bitshares that it could really hurt the adoption and thus how successful Bitshares will be. However, I think that is unlikely Bitcoin will do this, as I will explain after the next point. If a smaller chain does copy Bitshares innovation, then I don't think there will be any problems as no one has near the network effect of Bitcoin, not even Litecoin which would arguably be the crypto with the 2nd largest network effect.

I think Bitcoin is unlikely to copy off of Bitshares innovations thus far:

1. DPOS - The Bitcoin community largely hates PoS with a passion. I think most of it is ignorance and they read someone they think is smart analyzing older methods of PoS say its bad, and then the rest don't see the issues with ASICs and the centralization it will bring. Don't count on them copying DPOS anytime soon. I think a lot of them don't realize that PoS has had many iterations in recent history, and judge them based on prior implementations.

2. TITAN - This is a no go for Bitcoin, they are trying to play nice with governments everywhere. I think implementing something like TITAN would hinder that.

3. Bitassets - The Bitcoin community pretty much regards any added features to the client as "gimmicks" or "uneeded bells and whistles". I think they are unlikely to implement anything like that as well. IMO- the joke is on them because some people do want added features and bells and whistles. I mean... obviously, this is why the bitcoin 2.0 movement is gaining so much traction and raising so many funds for development. If you don't like a feature or don't want to use it, then just ignore it and don't use it. They don't understand that some people do want these features and in some cases these features will bring in users that wouldn't have otherwise partook.

4. Am I forgetting something? I haven't honestly looked into future DACs past BitsharesX yet..

In summary, I think there is a risk of someone copying features from Bitshares. However, as we can see with Bitcoin's success (as luckybit mentioned) the first mover advantage and the network effect that comes with it is quite powerful.

The value comes from everyone (merchants and consumers) adopting a particular token. BitAssets complicate the network effect a bit. BitUSD can exist on multiple chains and thus be backed by different tokens as collateral. Nevertheless, there is still a tendency for people to keep most BitAssets on a single blockchain for convenience (cross-chain transactions are inconvenient); also, centralizing the BitAssets to one chain increases the market value of that one chain which increases its security (since the cost of a 51% attack goes up). If the blockchain that the world converges on is the one whose tokens are distributed to current BTC holders, then they are the ones who capture all that value. Now why would the world converge on one particular chain versus another? I am really not sure. I think it is very sensitive to how the initial adoption grows. Once the network effect is fully in place though, it becomes very difficult to displace it (unless another new significant innovation comes out on another chain and the incumbent chain's stakeholders are too slow to realize its potential such that the clone's market cap drops drastically due to shareholders dumping).

I would like to see some discussion on what will cause one clone to succeed over another (assuming stake distribution is their only difference). I think if the stake of a chain is more broadly distributed to more consumers willing to spend money, then merchants may elect to go with that chain since it maximizes their potential revenue. And consumers are more willing to buy stake in that chain since those tokens are the ones they are more likely to be able spend on goods/services.  This is a positive feedback loop that would cause that chain to grow compared to the alternatives until it reaches clear dominance. But I think this is very sensitive to many other factors. Hence, I think marketing and initial deals made can make or break the future of a particular chain.

At least this is how I see it. Please correct me if there is a flaw in my reasoning. It would most likely be a huge relief.

IMO- merchants will adopt whatever token consumers are using, so it is more important to attract users of the crypto currency than merchants. Once enough people are using a certain token, a merchant would be stupid not to accept it because they would be losing business. That being said, one of the ways to attract users is having places for them to spend the crypto, so they kind of go hand in hand.

Attracting users can be done several ways.. I like the method of making new and innovative features they want to use along with making improvements to old features, and Bitshares is already doing both.

The rest of your post as to worrying about cloning, I am guessing you are worried about someone making something like Aethereum that is planning on cloning Ethereum and distributing it to Bitcoin holders. I have my doubts this is going to work. I actually posted this in the Aethereum thread the other day and I truly believe what I wrote:

No I've not invested in Ether at all actually. I don't like the current business model but I might invest at a later stage depending.

I have looked at airdrops before and it's pretty unanimous so far that it just crushes the price and doesn't create user adoption. So I thought the Ethereum airdrop planned here was fine, just futile. Considering the proportion of miners involved in Bitcoin and the number of POW fanboys, trying to bootstrap an ethereum clone based on DPOS onto Bitcoin seemed even more implausible. I think it would just be free advertising for the real Ethereum. Just my opinion, you're entitled to yours.

I think this is a solid post and makes sense to me. I have always looked at Aethereum as a potential threat to Ethereum, but you have now convinced me I was wrong all along about it.

You are certainly correct that all "air drop" coins have been a huge failure thus far. There is no incentive to hold onto the coins and as soon as the are "air dropped" mass dumping ensues.

Ethereum will not suffer from that problem, as all Ethereum owners will have invested something of value to get their portion of Ether. This will provide a deterrent from all Ethereum owners dumping on the market for anything less than what they invested in it, which will uphold the value 1000x better than getting Aethereum for free will.

Just look at how hard all the air drop coins have failed, and how the free distribution Nxt clones have failed. It doesn't take much logical reasoning to deduce that that is what will happen to Aethereum too.

Did I miss anything? I hope that was helpful. :)

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