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General Discussion / Re: Cryptofresh Block Explorer + MUSE now available
« on: December 25, 2015, 04:18:22 pm »
@roadscape The main page of http://cryptofresh.com/ stopped syncing.
Latest transaction displayed on the page is 6 hours ago.
"Recent blocks" stopped at 2,084,450.
"BitShares Blockchain Status" is correct though.

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Stakeholder Proposals / Re: Questions about the refund400k worker proposal
« on: December 25, 2015, 04:06:23 pm »
Glad to see that those refund/burn workers have been created and waiting for approval. Great thanks to @xeroc.
http://cryptofresh.com/p/1.10.45

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The bytemaster account has 0 bts in it.  The angel account is also not all Bm.  So 10% is mostly from others voting to follow Bm. Even with all of that he still controls less than 50% of active voting stake.
That says everything. No matter what BM says or does, those people just agree. It's even worse than BM owns all the stakes.
On the opposite, it's likely that most people who don't agree with BM have voted with their feet.

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OK now that this [explicit] is set in stone, I have nothing more I can do but open a poll:

what will be the average market cap loss for BTS between now and the time the stealth is out [my guess is about April].


It is ridiculous but I do think you guys are willingly taking a 2.5 to more likely 4 mil USD market cap hit, so CNX can cash 45K immediately, and onceaponaprivacydream can make this 45K suicidal investment.[the one he brakes even in about 3-5 years?]

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weighted market cap per CMC
Dec 13 '15 - 9,602,798
till 7 days before the stealth release is announced.

Tony, you are extremely short sighted.  How much of a market cap hit would BTS take if we weren't working on BTS at all?  How much of a hit would it take if we diluted BTS by 30K per month to fund features?

With the current BTS feature , it's not really hard to maintain a marketcap lower than Dogecoin with zero features .
If you stop working now , and if BTS going lower , then I think people will have no doubt that BTS is indeed centralized and worthless than Dogecoin .

You have 100X the feature than what Dogecoin has already . If BTS is not going anywhere , it's not because lack of some feature . 

The only reason that will affect BTS marketcap after you stop working on it is because it's not finished/centralized/rely on people to keep it running just like a manual device/it may render useless if BM on a boat trip.....And one day , if BM changed his mind about working on BTS because of(but not limited to) change of personality/political believes/different view of the world /suddenly hate C++ and love Java/suddenly love painting than programming/.......   , then all of their investment will go to zero .....In either case , it's not really comforting for people to use it regardless of how many new features is being developed .

I think you are giving cnx and bm too much credit as far as influence goes. From what I've seen they own less than 10% of bts.  And I don't think bts would go to zero if they quit working on the project.  It's just code, its mit licensed, and any programmer could come in and start working on it.
According to http://cryptofresh.com/ballots,
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bytemaster   11 / 25 / 3   11   4.99%
angel   11 / 30 / 7   5   4.61%
...
Active voting stake: 21.0%
A 10% voting power (and keeps raising) is somewhat of "dictatorship" right now.

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OK now that this [explicit] is set in stone, I have nothing more I can do but open a poll:

what will be the average market cap loss for BTS between now and the time the stealth is out [my guess is about April].


It is ridiculous but I do think you guys are willingly taking a 2.5 to more likely 4 mil USD market cap hit, so CNX can cash 45K immediately, and onceaponaprivacydream can make this 45K suicidal investment.[the one he brakes even in about 3-5 years?]

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weighted market cap per CMC
Dec 13 '15 - 9,602,798
till 7 days before the stealth release is announced.

Tony, you are extremely short sighted.  How much of a market cap hit would BTS take if we weren't working on BTS at all?  How much of a hit would it take if we diluted BTS by 30K per month to fund features?

With the current BTS feature , it's not really hard to maintain a marketcap lower than Dogecoin with zero features .
If you stop working now , and if BTS going lower , then I think people will have no doubt that BTS is indeed centralized and worthless than Dogecoin .

You have 100X the feature than what Dogecoin has already . If BTS is not going anywhere , it's not because lack of some feature . 

The only reason that will affect BTS marketcap after you stop working on it is because it's not finished/centralized/rely on people to keep it running just like a manual device/it may render useless if BM on a boat trip.....And one day , if BM changed his mind about working on BTS because of(but not limited to) change of personality/political believes/different view of the world /suddenly hate C++ and love Java/suddenly love painting than programming/.......   , then all of their investment will go to zero .....In either case , it's not really comforting for people to use it regardless of how many new features is being developed .

I think you are giving cnx and bm too much credit as far as influence goes. From what I've seen they own less than 10% of bts.  And I don't think bts would go to zero if they quit working on the project.  It's just code, its mit licensed, and any programmer could come in and start working on it.
Glad to see.. but where is this "any programmer"? It's claimed by a lot of people on this forum that only code written by or reviewed by CNX is acceptable.

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中文 (Chinese) / Re: BTS2.0升级/注册/交易指南
« on: December 25, 2015, 02:44:37 pm »
辛苦了  +5%

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General Discussion / Re: Whats going on with Coinmarketcap ?
« on: December 25, 2015, 12:58:35 pm »
Thanks for the explaination. Looks like a happy end.

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4.   Fees shall be automatically distributed by the blockchain to the following accounts:
        o   20% to the BitShares network.
        o   20% to a Maintenance Account.
        o   60% to holder(s) of the Privacy Mode Fees accumulation account


what is the fee if using STEALTH transfer by CLI wallet ?
I think it must same as normal ?

I  don`t think  it is a priority feature , but I cannot oppose this feature because block chain can contain many things ,
but I oppose change the fee if using  STEALTH transfer by CLI wallet
If you have some stakes,  vote with them. Else your opinion won't be taken into consideration.

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General Discussion / Re: POLL: Why are you still hodling BTS?
« on: December 25, 2015, 11:10:53 am »
Tech is the best IMO, but PR is very bad... Why doesn't BM travel the US and the world to spread the words of BitShares? :)
Merry Christmas!


Stan did a great job in China :).
So result in a pump from China? Or a new startup company based on bts System come from China?

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but as you can also see under openledger-reg account we have untill now spent 478 000 bts on users signing up which is not being deducted as we want everyboy to have the option to enjoy taking part either in parts or in full when buyback kicks in.

https://bitshares.openledger.info/?r=openledger#/account/openledger-reg/member-stats/


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Lifetime fees paid   484,000 BTS
Voting weight   17,560 BTS
Cashback   90d - 724,000 / 1,120,000 BTS
It's good to see that you've earned more BTS than you've paid.

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Technical Support / Re: Paying network fee via UIA or BTS
« on: December 24, 2015, 06:19:08 pm »
The features is there already .. but only available to the blockchain level. It's not yet exposed to the end-user in the GUI

Devs are working on it:
https://github.com/cryptonomex/graphene-ui/issues/356

This is in regards to issue #356.
I see that this function is now implemented on GUI level, but only for fee transfers.
Is there a plan to allow user to select the method of payment for network fees for trading (placing limit orders)?

There have been discussions about how to best do it. We don't want to make trading too difficult for people .. hence this will probably be an "advanced" setting ..
But its on the list of things to do!

Thanks for letting me know that BROWNIE.PTS was created during BitShares 1. No wonder I cannot configure it the same way on BitShares 2.

Okay, so since core exchange rate cannot be set to zero for assets created in BitShares 2.0, I guess I have to wait for this "advanced" setting to be implemented in the future. Hopefully.
FYI it's already possible to set fees in BTS or UIA while transferring / trading with the latest GUI.
//Edit: by now it will pay fee in BTS while trading if fee pool is insufficient. See https://github.com/cryptonomex/graphene-ui/issues/628

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10% is from BM alone...so I would not really say "widely accepted by the community"

Anyway, the only thing to do at this point is to hope that this feature will bring lots of new users and adoption for BTS sake...
No, it's not alone. BM is a proxy, he has many followers.

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General Discussion / Re: Whats going on with Coinmarketcap ?
« on: December 24, 2015, 05:09:23 pm »
yep me .. and i've pinged monsterer on skype as well..

IMO better me is buying BTC empty then another non known person ..
Will pay them back --> *tbh .. i would desperatly need this "gift" as well...

(and just to say, i'm not having access to ccedk exchange site/ back end etc, if u're thinking the likely candidate is the BTS/EUR market on CCDEK )
Good to know you're protecting it. Would be better if you had more BTS at that time.

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General Discussion / Re: Whats going on with Coinmarketcap ?
« on: December 24, 2015, 05:06:15 pm »
This thread is brought to you by : STEALTH
Will STEALTH do anything good with this issue?
Imo it's more important for MetaExchange to find a better price feeding method. Maybe @alt could help.

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