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中文 (Chinese) / Re: 比特股有担保交易功能么?
« on: November 19, 2014, 04:10:06 am »
    最近手头上有一些若羌灰枣,想换一些BTS,但是不知道有没有办法,可以保障双方的利益不受损失,类似淘宝,不知道比特股有没这个功能?

BM正在搞哦,github上已经看到在工作的进程。
担保交易,找第三方,第三方控制从a到b的资金流动。

看不懂,目前想趁着低价,使用若羌灰枣或是玉器换一些BTS。
那个功能要出来还早。
如果你急需用钱,典当或者淘宝卖掉都可以考虑啊。
拿到钱到比特时代买bts就可以了。

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楼主的中文表达很清楚,赞一个!
bitsharesblocks是很不错的网站,很实用,我一直在用。
等我把windows钱包重新跑起来就给你投票。

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中文 (Chinese) / Re: 关于AGS资金必须在今年底花完的事
« on: November 19, 2014, 04:01:15 am »
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3、AGS资金中的BTC是当研发经费提前付给开发者了。
其他的都不难理解。
我比较关心这一条的具体分配方案,论坛有相关帖子吗

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中文 (Chinese) / Re: 关于AGS资金必须在今年底花完的事
« on: November 18, 2014, 10:15:35 am »
2)也就是说toast准备明年不领工资了,直接自己赚bts,帮3i省点现金给别人发工资?
3)还是没清楚AGS资金是怎么花完了。如果是分掉,每人拿到btc可以变现,还存在工资发不出的问题吗?

麻烦清楚的再解释下,谢谢

1)I3的会计师不行。。。做得好就不需要交这35%税
2)只有toast家庭经济条件好点,所以敢用bts支付工资。其他的都不敢,因为美国生活费至少要2500美元一个月,除非住不花钱
在英文社区看到有帖子提到这个事,但是没找到详细说明,例如为什么要花,如何花。
谁知道的麻烦出来说下,谢谢。

AGS是I3的捐赠收入,捐赠在本年年底就要收35%的税,所以I3直接预先支付给各个开发者,这就是“花光”的意思。
哦,预先支付,这可以理解。不过,这个预支算下来有几个月工资?
另外,toast想运行一个100% pay rate的受托人是因为没拿到上面的预支工资?怎么不见其他人出来说要做100%受托人。

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中文 (Chinese) / Re: 关于AGS资金必须在今年底花完的事
« on: November 17, 2014, 02:33:55 pm »
在英文社区看到有帖子提到这个事,但是没找到详细说明,例如为什么要花,如何花。
谁知道的麻烦出来说下,谢谢。

AGS是I3的捐赠收入,捐赠在本年年底就要收35%的税,所以I3直接预先支付给各个开发者,这就是“花光”的意思。
哦,预先支付,这可以理解。不过,这个预支算下来有几个月工资?
另外,toast想运行一个100% pay rate的受托人是因为没拿到上面的预支工资?怎么不见其他人出来说要做100%受托人。

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Was 100% Delegate pay 50 BTS per block? At 10 seconds block, that is 6 blocks per minute. 6*60 per hour, 6*60*24 per day, 6*60*24*30=259200 BTS per month. So pay is 50 BTS per block, times 259200 = 12 960 000 BTS. Then we divide this by 101? To get 128316 BTS a month per Delegate.

Delegate Income per month at 100% for different market caps:

$2279 at 35 million, (low-pay fulltime job)
$4558 at 70 million,
$6837 at 105 million, (high-pay fulltime job)
$22790 at 350 million,
$45580 at 700 million,  (3 high pay employees + $250k expenses a year)
$683700 at 10.5 billion..

Very possible I made some error here. Just trying to get an overview.

Free market decide the pay rate .
If BTS is one trillion market cap now , you think shareholders would let toast have 100% payrate ?  1 % is more than enough .
Wow, one trillion! I can't image that..

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Image when the price of bts get rising.. It should be much more than that.
Don't just look at current price.

Did you read the OP? The very point of this post is the problem *with* using the current price.
Yes but I can't totally catch you..
You mean the paid delegates can hardly sell out their earned bts? Or they earned too little?

I agree with these words posted by cn-members:
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as for the delegates , we encourage them not to sell

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设定 bitcny 发行的最大值和最小值,由delegate喂给系统
我感觉delegate是不是承担了太多东西?
不要干预太多,市场自然会找到自己的路。

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Oh , I see where you are wrong .
There will not be 101 100% delegates .
By my est , there will only be 10-25 delegates who can have 100% payrate .
More than that , shareholders won't approve .
At this point , it's not even that easy to get all the developers to get a 100% delegate seat .

My calculations assume worst case, yes, but this is not an error, just the opposite end of the estimation bound.

So, lower bound is $200 / month, upper bound is $2500 / month.
Image when the price of bts get rising.. It should be much more than that.
Don't just look at current price.

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中文 (Chinese) / 关于AGS资金必须在今年底花完的事
« on: November 17, 2014, 09:35:28 am »
在英文社区看到有帖子提到这个事,但是没找到详细说明,例如为什么要花,如何花。
谁知道的麻烦出来说下,谢谢。

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bounty fund ....good  idea

the community can control the spending rate , easy to monitor the workers instead of a steady paycheck....

Good idea.
But how to control? Who will control the private key of the delegate account?

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General Discussion / Re: Approve my 100% pay rate delegate
« on: November 14, 2014, 08:46:15 am »
Toast works on issues as they come up and is generally helping with development tasks.   So his plans are not well defined but clearly he can be trusted to use his time wisely.
Doesn't I3 pay him for his work?

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General Discussion / Re: BitAsset market is going into chaos
« on: November 14, 2014, 08:43:36 am »
Interesting.

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General Discussion / Re: memory use went up after upgrade to 0.4.24
« on: November 12, 2014, 08:02:31 pm »
Much better memory alloc compare to previous version and it synced with no hassle.
Agree.
v0.4.22 uses more than 3GBit while re-indexing, v0.4.24 uses about 2.6GB.
Will try win client after completed downloading.. hard to download from amazon. sigh.

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General Discussion / Re: My preferred solution for delegates
« on: November 12, 2014, 10:34:31 am »
What we need is a script that will burn fees daily that we can verify.

I feel like I asked this question before but... can we verify burned funds yet ?

This still has problems, the main one being there are not enough people willing to watch everyone.. but the verifiable burning ability needs to be in place first.

This way I could #1 create a delegate at 100%.  #2 when elected I just burn all funds or maybe 99%.  Whatever.  #3 When we know what has most value, I can stop burning and provide accountability towards that goal (instead of accountability of burning).

1,2,3.... what am I missing.  Too many control freaks though. Too many managers with expectations too high.


Bad idea?  Good idea?
To be honest if one hasn't prove himself yet, I won't vote on him..
 

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