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BTSX 现在贵吗?亲王说5分收,你说这5分的收,那些从200元接PTS来投AGS得到BTSX的人,情何以堪!

你是回我吗?我说的是bitusd

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KeyID / Why inflation?
« on: August 03, 2014, 07:03:05 am »
The inflation model of the DotP2P DAC has aroused antipathy in the Chinese community. And I found that many old BTS participants also can't answer to "why inflation".

If you have pressed other where through out other posts in this forum, do you mind answer directly to the question?

The main accusation of this inflation model is, Big Mans can always stay to be delegates and win all the new minted coins / shares. And it's a positive feedback loop which can destroy whole economic balance.

I've always been a Bitshares missionary in the Chinese community. But when I was asked this question, I could't give an answer.

What is your answer to this?

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How Do Bitshares DACs Solve The "Nothing At Stake" Problem

Vitalik Buterin wrote an article, On Stake:
https://blog.ethereum.org/2014/07/05/stake/

He wrote:

Quote
However, with the naive proof of stake algorithm described above, there is one serious problem: as some Bitcoin developers describe it, “there is nothing at stake”. What that means is this: in the context of a proof-of-work blockchain, if there is an accidental fork, or a deliberate transaction reversal (“double-spend”) attempt, and there are two competing forks of the blockchain, then miners have to choose which one they contribute to.

...

The optimal strategy is to mine on any fork that you can find. Thus, in order to launch a successful attack, an attacker need only overpower all of the altruists who are willing to vote only on the correct chain.
...

However, there is a problem: what motivates signers to sign blocks on only one chain? If the arguments against pure proof of stake are correct, then most rational stake-miners would sign both chains. Hence, in hybrid PoS, if the attacker signs only his chain, and altruists only sign the legitimate chain, and everyone else signs both, then if the attacker can overpower the altruists on the stake front that means that the attacker can overtake the chain with less than a 51% attack on the mining front. If we trust that altruists as a group are more powerful in stake than any attacker, but we don’t trust that too much, then hybrid PoS seems like a reasonable hedge option; however, given the reasoning above, if we want to hybridize one might ask if hybrid PoW + TaPoS might not be the more optimal way to go. For example, one could imagine a system where transactions need to reference recent blocks, and a blockchain’s score is calculated based on proof of work and coin-days-destroyed counts.


He also pressed a very high evaluation to TaPOS, which to my understanding is somehow part of DPOS.

I think what we Bitshares community, especially Stan Larimer gave to the so called "nothing at stake" problem is what we call "Bitshares Social Consensus" -- all chains that have people's "votes" all deserve existence. Let the FREE MARKET judge which chain or which DAC should take over the most, thus the main market volume.

Any thoughts?

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中文 (Chinese) / Re: 熊版受托人
« on: August 01, 2014, 01:00:13 am »
代表名:
delegate.coolspeed
dac.coolspeed
coolspeed

双核 4GB。SSD 硬盘。位于旧金山。
谢谢投票啊~


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中文 (Chinese) / Bitshares感谢计划
« on: July 31, 2014, 04:38:43 am »
谢谢alt推荐我。
我的pts地址和bts账号在签名里。
btc地址:
1LoveUKjcv8wqwFizKTouVYtD6yFPZHjRv

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DAC 委托人 / 受托人拉票贴
« on: July 31, 2014, 04:29:55 am »
代表名:
delegate.coolspeed
dac.coolspeed
coolspeed

双核 4GB。SSD 硬盘。位于旧金山。
谢谢投票啊~

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Good job, BTC38 guys. And thanks Denny.

Hey BTER, it's your turn :)

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中文 (Chinese) / Re: Bitshares X End User License Agreement
« on: July 27, 2014, 09:48:51 am »
你看或不看,最终用户协议都在那里。


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楼主是 J 神吧?
其实你比谁都清楚自己会赚很多。

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Sunny King:

I don't know enough details of BitShare's DPOS proposal, the main issue I am concerned is related to the cost of 51% attack on the delegates. But I think they are doing good work researching proof-of-stake in general. So I think it's a lot more meaningful than clon PPC

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中文 (Chinese) / Re: Bitshares X End User License Agreement
« on: July 27, 2014, 09:11:36 am »
有中文翻译+摘要么 这种使用协议基本没人看的

像 Windows 最终用户协议,是基本没人看,出问题把你管得死死的。

当然对开源产品,这些基本都是空话套话。

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中文 (Chinese) / Bitshares End User License Agreement
« on: July 27, 2014, 08:54:43 am »
复制自客户端:

This end user agreement (the "Agreement") should be read by you (the "User" or "you") in its entirety prior to your use of any BitShares™-derived service or products. Please note that the Agreement constitutes a legally binding agreement between you and DAC Sun Limited (referred to herein as "DSL", "us" or "we"), which owns and operates the Internet site found at bitshares-x.info (the "Service"). By clicking the "I Agree" button if and where provided and/or using the Service, you consent to the terms and conditions set forth in this Agreement.

1. GRANT OF LICENSE

1.1. Subject to the terms and conditions contained herein, DSL grants the User a non-exclusive, personal, non-transferable right to use the experimental products and educational information provided by this Service on your personal computer or other device that accesses the Internet in order to access the experimental products available and described on the bitshares-x.info website (the website, experimental products and educational information together being the "Service"). By using this Service you are agreeing to join and participate in an economic experiment that may or may not prove useful, viable, or successful. This software is not intended or suitable for commercial use.

1.2. The Service is not for use by (i) individuals under 18 years of age, (ii) individuals under the legal age of majority in their jurisdiction and (iii) individuals accessing the Service from jurisdictions from which it is illegal to do so. DSL is not able to verify the legality of the Service in each jurisdiction and it is the User's responsibility to ensure that their use of the Service is lawful.

1.3. Products provided by the Service are derived from the open source BitShares™Toolkit and are released under the original BSD License. DSL reserves any and all rights implied or otherwise, which are not expressly granted to the User hereunder and retain all rights, title and interest in and to the Service. You agree that you will be solely liable for any damage, costs or expenses arising out of or in connection with the commission by you of any Unauthorized Use.

1.4. The term "DSL", its domain names and any other trade marks, or service marks used by DSL as part of the Service (the "Trade Marks"), are solely owned by DSL. In addition, all content on the website, including, but not limited to, the images, pictures, graphics, photographs, animations, videos, music, audio and text (the "Site Content") belongs to DSL and is protected by copyright and/or other intellectual property or other rights. You hereby acknowledge that by using the Service, you obtain no rights in the Site Content and/or the Trade Marks, or any part thereof. Under no circumstances may you use the Site Content and/or the Trade Marks without prior written consent of DAC Sun Limited. Additionally, you agree not to do anything that will harm or potentially harm the rights, including the intellectual property rights of DSL.

2. NO WARRANTIES.

2.1. BitShares™, ITS COMMUNITY OF INDEPENDENT DEVELOPERS AND DSL DISCLAIM ANY AND ALL WARRANTIES, EXPRESSED OR IMPLIED, IN CONNECTION WITH THE SERVICE WHICH IS PROVIDED TO YOU "AS IS" AND WE PROVIDE YOU WITH NO WARRANTY OR REPRESENTATION WHATSOEVER REGARDING ITS QUALITY, FITNESS FOR PURPOSE, COMPLETENESS OR ACCURACY.

2.2. REGARDLESS OF OUR EFFORTS, WE MAKE NO WARRANTY THAT THE SERVICE WILL BE UNINTERRUPTED, TIMELY OR ERROR-FREE, OR THAT DEFECTS WILL BE CORRECTED.

2.3. DAC SUN LIMITED CERTIFIES ONLY THAT THE SOFTWARE BINARIES PROVIDED AS PART OF THE SERVICE HAVE BEEN COMPILED FROM THE SOURCE CODE LIBRARIES REFERENCED ON BITSHARES-X.INFO AND WILL PERFORM AS SPECIFIED IN THAT CODE. THE USER IS RESPONSIBLE FOR VERIFYING THAT CODE, WITH EXPERT PROFESSIONAL HELP IF NECESSARY, AND ACCEPTS THE RESULTS PRODUCED BY THAT CODE.

3. AUTHORITY/TERMS OF SERVICE

You agree to the rules described on the bitshares-x.info website. DSL retains authority over the issuing, maintenance, and closing of the Service. The decision of DSL's management, as regards any use of the Service, or dispute resolution, is final and shall not be open to review or appeal.

4. YOUR REPRESENTATIONS AND WARRANTIES

Prior to your use of the Service and on an ongoing basis you represent, warrant, covenant and agree that:

4.1. there is a risk of losing digital tokens when using products provided by this Service and that neither BitShares™, its community of independent developers, nor DSL have any responsibility to you for any such loss;

4.2. your use of the Service is at your sole option, discretion and risk;

4.3. you are solely responsible for any applicable taxes which may be payable on digital tokens obtained by you through your use of the Service;

4.5. the telecommunications networks and Internet access services required for you to access and use the Service and its products are entirely beyond the control of DSL and DSL shall have no liability whatsoever for any outages, slowness, capacity constraints or other deficiencies affecting the same; and

4.6. you are aged 18 or over.

5. PROHIBITED USES

5.1. PERSONAL USE. The Service is intended solely for the User's personal use. The User is only allowed to experiment with the products and tokens for his/her personal edification or entertainment.

5.2. GENERATED EXPERIMENTAL TOKENS. Any digital tokens (BTSX) generated for personal use by the User while using the products provided by this Service are for promotional purposes only, have zero par value, and are not generated in exchange for any consideration whatsoever provided by the user to DSU, BitShares™ or its independent community of developers. The existence of these tokens does not infer an obligation or liability on any party.

5.3 JURISDICTIONS. Persons located in or residents of any "Prohibited Jurisdictions" are not permitted make use of the Service. For the avoidance of doubt, the foregoing restrictions on engaging in experimentation from Prohibited Jurisdictions applies equally to residents and citizens of other nations while located in a Prohibited Jurisdiction. Any attempt to circumvent the restrictions on use by any persons located in a Prohibited Jurisdiction or Restricted Jurisdiction, is a breach of this Agreement. An attempt at circumvention includes, but is not limited to, manipulating any information used by DSL to identify your location and providing DSL with false or misleading information regarding your location or place of residence.

6. BREACH

6.1. Without prejudice to any other rights, if a User breaches in whole or in part any provision contained herein, DSL reserves the right to take such action as it sees fit, including terminating this Agreement or any other agreement in place with the User and/or taking legal action against such User.

6.2. You agree to fully indemnify, defend and hold harmless BitShares™, its community of independent developers, DSL and their shareholders, directors, agents and employees from and against all claims, demands, liabilities, damages, losses, costs and expenses, including legal fees and any other charges whatsoever, howsoever caused, that may arise as a result of: (i) your breach of this Agreement, in whole or in part; (ii) violation by you of any law or any third party rights; and (iii) use by you of the Service.

7. LIMITATION OF LIABILITY.

7.1. Under no circumstances, including negligence, shall BitShares™, its community of independent developers, or DSL be liable for any special, incidental, direct, indirect or consequential damages whatsoever (including, without limitation, damages for loss of business profits, business interruption, loss of business information, or any other pecuniary loss) arising out of the use (or misuse) of the Service even if any had prior knowledge of the possibility of such damages.

7.2. Nothing in this Agreement shall exclude or limit DSL's liability for death or personal injury resulting from its negligence.

8. DISPUTES

If a User wishes to make a complaint, please express it a dacsunlimied.com. Should any dispute not be resolved to your satisfaction you may pursue remedies in the governing law jurisdiction set forth below.

9. AMENDMENT

DSL reserves the right to update or modify this Agreement or any part thereof at any time or otherwise change the Service without notice and you will be bound by such amended Agreement upon posting. Therefore, we encourage you check the terms and conditions contained in the version of the Agreement in force at such time. Your continued use of the Service shall be deemed to attest to your agreement to any amendments to the Agreement.

10. GOVERNING LAW

The Agreement and any matters relating hereto shall be governed by, and construed in accordance with, the laws of Hong Kong. You irrevocably agree that, subject as provided below, the courts of Hong Kong shall have exclusive jurisdiction in relation to any claim, dispute or difference concerning the Agreement and any matter arising therefrom and irrevocably waive any right that it may have to object to an action being brought in those courts, or to claim that the action has been brought in an inconvenient forum, or that those courts do not have jurisdiction. Nothing in this clause shall limit the right of DSL to take proceedings against you in any other court of competent jurisdiction, nor shall the taking of proceedings in any one or more jurisdictions preclude the taking of proceedings in any other jurisdictions, whether concurrently or not, to the extent permitted by the law of such other jurisdiction.

11. SEVERABILITY

If a provision of this Agreement is or becomes illegal, invalid or unenforceable in any jurisdiction, that shall not affect the validity or enforceability in that jurisdiction of any other provision hereof or the validity or enforceability in other jurisdictions of that or any other provision hereof.

12. ASSIGNMENT

DSL reserves the right to assign this agreement, in whole or in part, at any time without notice. The User may not assign any of his/her rights or obligations under this Agreement.

13. MISCELLANEOUS

13.1. No waiver by DSL of any breach of any provision of this Agreement (including the failure of DSL to require strict and literal performance of or compliance with any provision of this Agreement) shall in any way be construed as a waiver of any subsequent breach of such provision or of any breach of any other provision of this Agreement.

13.2. Nothing in this Agreement shall create or confer any rights or other benefits in favor of any third parties not party to this Agreement other than with an affiliate of DSL.

13.3. Nothing in this Agreement shall create or be deemed to create a partnership, agency, trust arrangement, fiduciary relationship or joint venture between you and us.

13.4. This Agreement constitutes the entire understanding and agreement between you and us regarding the Service and supersedes any prior agreement, understanding, or arrangement between you and us.


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中文 (Chinese) / Re: 关于锚定-i have a crazy idea!really
« on: July 25, 2014, 02:44:54 am »
我告诉你这个机制早已实现了。随时按需“印钱”埋单=你说的“预埋”=整体系统(股东全体)平摊风险。
另外,有人愿意以10刀买,有人愿意以5刀卖,作为中间商赚差价是符合普遍市场原理的——而且这鼓励挂单双方更加向共识价格靠拢。

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中文 (Chinese) / 真的没人八一下 DACSunlimited 吗?
« on: July 20, 2014, 02:09:19 pm »
那只能我来八了。
不知道是不是因为怕法律问题,DSL 做事貌似非常地不透明。

3i 缩写 DACsunlimited 为 DSL (DacSunLimited),说明这是 DACs Unlimited 和 DAC Sun, Limited. 的一语双关。

DAC Sun 又是什么意思呢?根据 DAC 的定义,很容易猜测到这其实是 《黑客帝国3》结尾冉冉升起的机器文明的太阳,的隐喻。
可参见《杜车别评黑客帝国》 http://movie.douban.com/review/1431422/


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