For guys who may not using ubuntu,
I'm using the following steps in opensuse13.1 w/o errors

1. setup a build environment
using yast/zypper, install the following packages:
patterns-openSUSE-base/devel_basis/devel_C_C++/devel_qt4
libqt5-*
git
cmake

2. build your own boost is necessary
download boost 1.55 at official site
http://www.boost.org/users/download/
extract zip file and cd into it

$./bootstrap.sh --prefix=PATH/TO/INSTALL
$./b2 install

3. install qt
download and install qt 5.2 at official site
http://qt-project.org/downloads

4. download keyhotee source code from git
$ git clone https://github.com/InvictusInnovations/keyhotee
$ cd keyhotee
$ git clone https://github.com/InvictusInnovations/BitShares
$ cd BitShares
$ git clone https://github.com/InvictusInnovations/fc
$ cd ../

5. build keyhotee using cmake w/ your boost
$ QTDIR=PATH_TO_QT/5.2.0/gcc_64/ cmake -DBOOST_ROOT=/PATH/TO/YOUR/BOOST ./CMakeLists.txt
$ make

finally, you should find Keyhotee in Keyhotee/bin

Quote from: 麥可貓 on December 19, 2013, 06:50:57 am

Quote from: que23 on December 19, 2013, 01:54:18 am

Quote from: 麥可貓 on December 18, 2013, 05:09:57 pm

Forgive me if I mis-understand something,
but I think angleshares could be a natural part of 3I as an DAC,
just like the model they have proposed before.

For example,  a possible model should be like this:
1. Every software project of 3I should have a new (angle)share/coin branched from the mother DAC share, and use coding as POW because the new project is directly benifited by coding itself. There is already some software available like Bithub to do this (https://github.com/WhisperSystems/BitHub)
2. This new share should accept as many currencies as possible,  and donors acquire this new share in current exchange rate. In this way,  this project is funded and the new share is backed by the donated money,  just like fiat currencies are backed by gold.
3. To honor protoshare,  protoshare holders should have 1:1 amount of this new share relative to their protoshares.

And these are also the three ways to obtain such new share
(i. e. 1. Mining by coding 2. Exchange by funding 3. obtain PTS)

The big picture: Everyone here is really keen on decentralization. But, there's a problem. Invictus is a centralized company. What to do? Well, because Invictus loves decentralized entities too, they came up with the idea of ProtoShares. ProtoShares does not benefit Invictus. They mine them just like everyone else does. If they sold the PTS, then they would have no stake in the future of DACs. Now, this is important. The future of DACs. Nothing guarantees that Invictus will be a part of that future. The projects are open source. Anyone can copy them and start their own DAC. If this happened, then it would also benefit the new company to honor the PTS social promise/contract. If they didn't, that company would have to start a whole new community fresh. They would have no network effect to propel them.

Now, Invictus needs funding. Every company needs funding. What to do? AngelShares gives any team of DAC developers a chance at funding. If the idea is good and the team is good, then funding should be easy to obtain. However, if the team starts to fail (this includes invictus) then people can stop buying the AngelShares and even trade them for another team of developer's AngelShares.

PTS is the glue that binds the DAC movement. AngelShares is the engine that move it forward. Technically, any team of Developers is free to release their AngelShares however they want. Invictus hasn't officially released their AngelShare model but it seems to be a system where you pay them to mine Invictus AngleShares for you.

Exactly. The key is every DAC/project needs funding.

As a donor,  one may wanna be specific where his money goes:
1. To the DAC(3I) at kickstarting stage.  This purpose is served well by PTS for 3I.
2. To a project of the DAC.  This could be where angleshares go.

So PTS is like the root dorectory of '3I system' and angleshares are sub-folders.
In this way,  angleshares should not be recognized as duplicate/dilution of PTS.

The problem with the whole Angelshares thing is we don't really want to trust a centralized company even if its 3I. Look at what happened to Bitfunder, or BTCT.

3I is in the United States just like those others were. If it's done following the Mastercoin model then it could work but if it's traded on an exchange then it might have legal vulnerability. I just don't know and this needs more planning.

Mining doesn't have any of these risks but I do understand the problem of raising funds and that you need some kind of Kickstarter.

To avoid trusting any centralized company, the angleshares could act much like bounty.
So funding is raised for the whole project and paid proportionally to the dev team that complete individual tasks of the project. If the original team leaves in the half way, another team can take over and earn the rest funding.
To achieve decentralization, the funding-for-bounty mechanism should be practiced by the angleshares software.
For example, the software could include the following features:
1. Funding addresses to collect funding, and is held by the software mechanism but not anyone.
2. the SPEC of the product. the SPEC should be recorded in individual tasks of the project.
3. the dev team list. to be registered on this list, a dev team could propose the SPEC or accomplish at least one task of this project.
4. a confirmation/voting mechanism to elect the dev team who gets the bounty/funding for each task.

So after the first task is done, the bounty could be the fuel for the second one.

Quote from: 麥可貓 on December 18, 2013, 05:09:57 pm

Forgive me if I mis-understand something,
but I think angleshares could be a natural part of 3I as an DAC,
just like the model they have proposed before.

For example,  a possible model should be like this:
1. Every software project of 3I should have a new (angle)share/coin branched from the mother DAC share, and use coding as POW because the new project is directly benifited by coding itself. There is already some software available like Bithub to do this (https://github.com/WhisperSystems/BitHub)
2. This new share should accept as many currencies as possible,  and donors acquire this new share in current exchange rate. In this way,  this project is funded and the new share is backed by the donated money,  just like fiat currencies are backed by gold.
3. To honor protoshare,  protoshare holders should have 1:1 amount of this new share relative to their protoshares.

And these are also the three ways to obtain such new share
(i. e. 1. Mining by coding 2. Exchange by funding 3. obtain PTS)

If you are from China as your name suggests, and the Chinese government bans you from buying Bitcoins with fiat, how would you obtain Bitshares if you cannot mine them and cannot directly work for them?

Am I the only one who can see this as the ultimate chokepoint?

For this issue, I have two suggestions:

1.Workaround/playaround (depending on your angle of view) of the statement of PBOC
According to the statement from PBOC,  and I quote:
"各金融机构和支付机构不得开展与比特币相关的业务"
i. e.  Financial and payment institutes are not allowed to do business related to bitcoin.
(http://goo.gl/F9FRxr)
I take this message as one can still exchange fiat currency with Cryptocurrency in China if there is no financial or payment institutes involved.
Practically,  I can sell my bitcoins in small amount to some buyer in China mediated by some OTC exchange,  which works just like Localbitcoins.com.
I know the China goverment can still bans OTC exchanges,  so I am looking forward to distributed exchanges that cannot be recognized as exchanges or too hard to ban.

2. 3I registers as a physical company,  and emploee can choose to get salary directly in this share-as-salary or in fiat currency according to current exchange rate.  This method means the company should pre-exhange this share outside of countries banned to do so.

Quote from: encrydia on November 24, 2013, 02:42:43 pm

I have a question.
If someone has a lot of APshares in this case,  does it mean he actually gain control of this DAC to a degree?
Since that writters are paid with APshares,  can he sell his APshares to make APshares priced down?

Thanks in advance.

Based on the OP case study people buy shares in the authors articles so that they don't really have shares the APshares DAC as far as I can tell. Also the author doesn't receive APshares they are paid by dividends & transmission fees associated with people publishing the article to more people.

Thank you for pointing out my misunderstanding

Sounds interesting.

But since that we cannot know how much coinage is destroyed in my current block,
maybe that can be the 'luck' in lucky mining?

AMD FX6300 with 8Gb RAM

{
"blocks" : 4512,
"currentblocksize" : 1000,
"currentblocktx" : 0,
"difficulty" : 0.00000382,
"errors" : "",
"generate" : true,
"genproclimit" : -1,
"hashespermin" : 13.74452367,
"pooledtx" : 1,
"testnet" : false
}


24 hours with nothing
is this normal?