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Don't worry Ian, you have made it clear what your agenda is here and what you plan on doing for the future by way of your veiled threats

Seriously, paranoid much? What veiled threats have I made?

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and conversations you are having with people in private (they aren't as private as you think).

And what is this, but a veiled threat?


Ultimately, it seems highly suspicious to me, and I'd suspect everyone, that an employee of yours would make you the founder of a company you had no association with.

Why would she do that? Even after you worked her to the bone? Why would she confuse "no affiliation" with "founder?" That is a big jump, not like mixing up COO and CEO or something like that. But literally Zero to One Hundred.

Seems like quite a stretch to me.

Stop looking for conspiracies everywhere. 

I will repeat this.  Read it a few times if you con't comprehend the first.

We were working day and night to get ready.  She was tasked with setting up both profiles - one for Mark, one for me.

She had only been working for me for 2 months at the time.

She was getting used to the 16+ projects I am working on at any given time.

Because I am pretty much founder or co-founder of every other project.

She setup both accounts and somehow got this setup mixed up.

Have you ever made a mistake in the past Ian?  Ever, when you were tired, or maybe distracted? 

Let's be reasonable, shall we?

Thank you for pointing out the error, it is now fixed and publicly addressed.

I would really appreciate you retracting your false statements about me, or at least updating the fact that your original question has been confirmed 8 ways from Sunday at this point.

Not likely you would extend such a courtesy, but hey - might as well ask.

PS - I thought a lot about it and I forgive you for the snake oil comment.  I also apologize for throwing mud back.

PPS - My wife made me type that.  Just kidding, but she did put things in perspective for me.

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I already answered that question, and I am sure she would be happy to get on the forum to respond that she created the account. 

You see, I have employees that do those things because I am busy.  I never checked, and today was the first I heard of it.  It happens.

I addressed it with her, and with Ian, and now with you.

Now that is clear.


So your employee, working on her own accord, decided to name you as the Founder of Banx, a company you never had anything to do with? That is what you are saying?

Was her name Anna Chennault as well? Did she do it as the behest of her boss in Texas?

She was working on setting up Marks profile for him and I for Remittio and likely added both by mistake.  We were working 18 hour days trying to get ready for it, so I don;t fault her one bit.

Stan knows how much PIA the web summit ppwk is.

Web Summit requires an angel.co profile.  I have never been to the page until today.  Thanks for notifying me of this error.

It was addressed with her and fixed. 

Mystery over. 

People make mistakes when setting up online profiles about other people, it's not uncommon.  My employees also post on my Twitter, Facebook and other things.  Sometimes they screw up. 

I forgive them.

Nothing on a stitch of paperwork has my name, nowhere has anyone ever referred to me as such (other than you by mistake or by full knowledge deception - who know at this point),  and you know full well Ian I have not been involved, especially after your extensive "investigations".

Don't worry Ian, you have made it clear what your agenda is here and what you plan on doing for the future by way of your veiled threats and conversations you are having with people in private (they aren't as private as you think).

You have now been set 100% straight by Stan, and I regarding ANY confusion on my status and BTS, CNX, and BANX.

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I believe you, and believe you have the best intentions. I also don't think you're out to scam and as Stan says you could be providing some excellent business development opportunities.

It's just the way the argument played out over a public forum...just kind of reflects poorly on BTS' professionalism is all. It may have been best in this case to have just ignored him and let the thread die on its own.

I agree about letting it die, I considered it.  But then I also know his MO and have seen his past wrecking ball attempts.


My point is, try to be more professional when publicly representing Bts in the future. Especially when resolving disputes.
This BS can be distracting.

I have no problem with that whatsoever.  I am just letting you know this isn't the first time, this isn't the second or third time, and won't be the last of his harassment.  He was already making threats, and has made threats on this thread.

I will represent myself as I see fit, though I do appreciate the software tone and your constructive feedback.

Perhaps I should not have tossed some mud, but when it is pearls before swine, the pearls will get muddy no matter what.


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I already answered that question, and I am sure she would be happy to get on the forum to respond that she created the account. 

You see, I have employees that do those things because I am busy.  I never checked, and today was the first I heard of it.  It happens.

I addressed it with her, and with Ian, and now with you.

Now that is clear.


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This post is embarrassing for the Bts community.
Murduristic - your behavior is unbelievably childish.
Someone should delete this post and we should all try to learn from it.

I would say the defense of this guy attacking members here is what is embarrassing. 

You tell me I am embarrassing you by my behavior?  I responded to him clearly in the first post, and yet he decides to continue with his slander, his remarks about "running", and anything else he is 100% ignorant about.

The second I decide to throw it back I am a bad person?

But you are entitled to your opinion. 

I would defend you against this hack as well, even if you don't agree with me.

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Wow, that was...intense. I generally agree with Fav here though that this entire discourse was pretty damn embarrassing. Murderistic, people are going to cry scam and hurl insults at you. This is crypto -- it's fairly standard stuff around here. But attacking back with childish insults of your own is a terrible "business development" strategy and I would say demonstrates a very poor sense of business acumen. I've seen Mark react the exact same way as you have when he was called out and I was glad not to be a part of Banx when I saw that.

...Guess I'm just a bit disappointed that these things aren't more obvious, especially when we're talking about millions (potentially billions) of people's dollars here...

I can appreciate your position, however...

I have already attempted to communicate with Ian in a professional manner in the recent past.

Ian has reneged on his previous agreement.

Ian came here to attack me.

He started the exchange with an insult and name calling.

After the "question" was confirmed, he then made more disparaging remarks about me and was saying untrue things.

THEN I decided to play at his level.

Don't shoot a gun at someone and expect not to be shot at back.

I already tried the higher road with this guy, he likes the mud as is evident by his post.

He wants to try and pull what he did to Mark on me, sorry - not sorry.




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someone comes here asking a question and what he gets are 2 pages of attacks. for fucks sake, I've never felt so embarrassed for this community, and I'm here for a long time.

these are the facts:

* Anyone who invested in BTS is free to call themselves whatever they like. (remember CEO's of Bitcoin?) - I leave it up to you to give that value or not.
* CNX = Cryptonomex = they worked for BitShares for some time, but are in no way "owners" or something. It's a blockchain company to my knowledge
* BMI 18.5 to 24.9 is Normal weight

I strongly recommend this clown fiesta to end right now and start to communicate without personal attacks or this thread will be closed.
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I do find Michael claiming to be a "founder" of BitShares a bit of a stretch to say the very least, however. Obviously Stan, Michael, and I have some differences of opinion on exactly what that term means. I was one of the earliest employees at Invictus, yet I don't consider myself a founder. Here's the definition I generally agree with: "The person who creates an organization or a company is known as the founder." To my knowledge, there are exactly two founders for BitShares: Dan Larimer and Charles Hoskinson.

Actually, I filed the paperwork that founded Invictus Innovations at the request of Dan and Charles.
Charles secured the funding and Dan invented the technology.  Notestein and Li were also there in the beginning.

Invictus worked very hard to emphasize that BitShares was an independent company that came into existence when those who downloaded free Invictus software started the blockchain running for the first time.
 
When it started running, there were initial genesis holders of 100% of the BitShares based on contributions they made or mining they did.  Lots of us were among them.

But since Invictus refuses to claim foundership of BitShares, you'll have to look to those who did the work and claimed the shares as its founders.

Since then Cryptonomex was founded by about 30 people who contributed cash and sweat equity.  They are listed as co-founders on the official stock documents.

Michael is listed among those cofounders.

Cryptonomex provided the software BitShares is now using.

So Michael has two perfectly valid claims to using "cofounder" on his resume if he wants to.

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Well now that THAT is solved, I am going to go for a walk, and NOT play the CIA created Pokemon Go.


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these are the facts:

* CNX = Cryptonomex = they worked for BitShares for some time, but are in no way "owners" or something. It's a blockchain company to my knowledge


CNX owns a lot of stuff in use, you might want to check into that Fav.

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I have my doubts you have worked an honest day in your life.

I don't really care about the fat shaming Taggart. It just shows how professional you are.

There is no more value in this thread.

Apologies fav, I'll move on now.

Again, you fail to see your hypocrisy re: the omgfatshaminggate

No more value in this thread for you, you mean.

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Here's the definition I generally agree with: "The person who creates an organization or a company is known as the founder." To my knowledge, there are exactly two founders for BitShares: Dan Larimer and Charles Hoskinson.


I would concur with Dan on this in that if ANYONE ever asks who founder bitshares I have always said Dan and Charles.

As for the Angel.co page, it appears my employee filled that portion out, and said that there was no way to put in business development - only founder and co-founder - so she placed that in there because it was accurate based on definition.

But I do agree Dan - thanks for the reply.

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someone comes here asking a question and what he gets are 2 pages of attacks. for fucks sake, I've never felt so embarrassed for this community, and I'm here for a long time.

these are the facts:

* Anyone who invested in BTS is free to call themselves whatever they like. (remember CEO's of Bitcoin?) - I leave it up to you to give that value or not.
* CNX = Cryptonomex = they worked for BitShares for some time, but are in no way "owners" or something. It's a blockchain company to my knowledge
* BMI 18.5 to 24.9 is Normal weight

I strongly recommend this clown fiesta to end right now and start to communicate without personal attacks or this thread will be closed.

Actually I am addressing each comment. 

He came attacking Fav, get over it.

If he were ASKING A QUESTION ONLY he wouldn't call me names from the first sentence.

if you are embarrassed, it should be with yourself encouraging this hack attacking community members that work their ass off.

You flat out are encouraging him.

IF HE WANTED TO ASK A QUESTION HE COULD HAVE ASKED "IS MICHAEL TAGGART A CO-FOUNDER OF BITSHARES".

BUT HE DIDN'T...




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Taggart, the only person here who has embarrassed himself is you.

Fat shaming? Come on. You called me fat, i simply pointed out that I wasn't. Don't try to flip around the childish aspect of this argument, Anyone with half a brain can clearly see that it is you.

anyone who thinks Bots are good for a platform like Steemit, clearly hasn't been online in the past 15 years.

Anyone who thinks their money is safe with Lyford, clearly doesn't know how to Google.

I hope you have fun destroying Steemit's reputation.

Still crying?  You don't get it Ian.

You aren't the only person that gets to call names.

But you are made when you call names and then get one called back?

It's pathetic Ian.  Even your half a brain has to see that?

Lyford isn't handling any funds dude.  I am.  And like I said, paypal adaptive payments lands it in their account at the time of sale.  Nobody holds the cash.  Try googling that.

Blockchain is open dude, nobody can stop bots.  They can only regulate their usage, you are really naive to think anything else.

I thought you were leaving? 

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Hmm yes, you have lowered yourself to calling people fat on the internet. Or maybe you were down there all along?

This is the BitShares champion? This is your co-founder?

A real winner, for sure.

Actually, I just doubted your exercise regime based on observation, and the fact that you work behind a monitor all day. 

And what observation is that? As I said, my BMI is clearly in the healthy range. What is your goal with this fat shaming? My BMI is 23, which is considered "Healthy Weight" I exercise, not as much as I should, but I jog several times a week and walk my dog several times a day. She is getting older, at ten, but still needs to get her energy out. This is really not necessary information, but since you asked about how much I exercise.

Again, what is the point of this? Do you think I will become self conscious? "On no, Taggart called me fat. I better not look into him or he'll do it again!" Do you think I will stoop to your level and make fun of your appearance? Well, I'm not going to do that either.

Your anger only further convinces me that you are fearful. Fearful that I will ruin your and your boyfriend's big launch tomorrow.

Don't worry Taggart. Tomorrow will come.

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Sounds super suspicious to me.

Yes, someone who stole (oh sorry, I mean "lost") hundreds of thousands of investor dollars on their last venture (Mark, not you) promising to give away money and the key to making it?

Yeah, you're right. That does sound super suspicious.

Good day sir, you'll waste no more of my time.

Boyfriend?  Really?  You are so childish.  I weep for you.

I threw a name call back at you to prove your childishness and you fell right into it.

Hook. Line. Sinker.

I don't give any care about your weight, BMI or anything else.  I must have stuck a nerve though. 

The whole exercise was to prove how childish you are.  It worked.  There is that business acumen again.

Anger?  You misread.  It is more amusement at this point.

You again clearly have no idea how marketing or affiliate management or sales works.

The affiliate system does something called an "adapative payment" that split the commission right to the promoter.  So they get paid instantly per sale.

Pretty neat huh?

Why do you keep embarrassing yourself?

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Taggard and Lyford stole hundreds of thousands of dollars from Banx investors. If this man really is critically important for Bitshares, I feel bad for the bag holders.


Saving this for public record.

You have now slandered me publicly, and have made 100% false statements about me - knowingly.

Now I can prove it.  You have now stated publicly that I stole money.  You have stated publicly stole money from BANX investors.

You have no evidence whatsoever to the claims you are making, and you do know that making deliberate false statements that can harm a person is subject to civil penalties?

Think before you speak Ian.

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And so you choose to help promote, and lend your name and picture, to Mark's next "business?" Knowing full well what he did with banx?

Also, bots like the one your and mark are claiming to be selling, are exactly what will kill Steemit.

I'm sure you'll make tons of cash off it though, so congrats. Your business acumen is clearly unparalleled.

Here is the funny part of this.

we are giving the entire commission payment to the people that promote the Steem Cash product.

OMG BUT HOW WILL WE MAKE MONEY?

Well, it is about helping the community AND making money Ian.

You see, Mark and I put together an entire marketing campaign for the community to use. 

For Free.

They just promote it, they get all the money from the front end to help pay for their advertising costs.

Wow, we bootstrapped an entire marketing campaign for Steemit!  And they didn't even pay us to do it.

We did it with our own money and time.

And now everyone can benefit from it.  more users on Steemit.  A full educational product and funnel for them to send people.  A way for them to make a few bucks getting more people involved.

Sounds super suspicious to me.

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