You are mixing up a few things here:
- free transactions could be anything and it makes most sense for transfers
- committee members know very well about low trading fees being requured by bots
- subsidizing liquiity has nothing to do with 0-fee or the fee schedule
- no worker is needed to run 0-fee once it is implemented

1. Free txs could be anything AND it makes most sense? Did you mean BUT?
2. The new fee schedule is not accepted yet. So I assume "IF we charge greater fees"
3. I didn't mention liquidity subsidy. I'm not mixing liquidity subsidy and zero-fee
4. But the worker proposal is needed to implement zero fees. If we release 10 mil BTS to the market, the value of BTS will decrease 0.4% mathematically.

Again, WTF?

Last time I checked, "free" aka "0" was cheaper than 0.1

expectations were just exceeded and now a whole new market niche is open to our real time scalable and now F'n FREE smartchain.

Who can bitch about this ? Put it to a vote, and free beats 0.1 every time.

You could charge 0.0000001 per transaction and nobody will click on your link. But as soon as you advertise "free lunch" the world will beat a path to your door.

God I hope he dumps his shares. Please dump!

Ever hear of a "freeloader"?

Well, the world is full of them

and I can tell you one thing for certain about this humongous demographic, they are not at all interested in .00000001 BTS fees

We have 2 choices of home page headers:

BitShares Smartchain  - Real Time Scalable and Cheap

or

BitShares Smartchain - Real Time Scalable and Free

cheap is relative but free is ABSOLUTE !

Actually, it's conditional. We now cannot assert how much we will actually pay as fees based on each person's transaction pattern. For instance, my bot created about 100k buy and cancel orders so far, but he has only few BTS in his account. If we charge greater fees to compensate conditional free fee, my bot is likely to pay more fees than now.

And the cost is indirectly paid through worker proposal. If the proposal requires 10 mil BTS, every shareholders are going to spend 0.4% of their money for free fee system.

Quote from: btswildpig on February 22, 2016, 04:35:34 am

Quote from: xeroc on February 21, 2016, 08:52:23 pm

What is even worse, we have the means to support those that provide work to the ecosystem and still they get beaten down because they need to justify them selves over and over and still dont get anything out of it.
Feom a developers perspective, its no wonder people prefer the much more healthy developer community at ethereum.

I hope those that are in the anti "dilution" camp include this image damage in their calculations.

You do know people who develop smart contracts in ethereum mostly find their own funding right ? Even with tons of dollars in Ethereum , a lot of smart contract developer can not be paid by Ethereum .

Augur for instance , and our old friend Rune and Toast .

Go to ethereum , see if they will open their wallet for you . Mostly won't . You'll have to find business model yourselves even you switch to Ethereum .

But they are not building core functionality for ethereum. They are not building the platform, they are using the platform for their project. Big difference.

IMIO, graphene's core functionality is completed. What we're doing is adjustment and improvement. We should think about that the benefits from the improvements are greater than their costs. E.g. if we can attract more users and businesses with 0.5 BTS fee with 0 costs, compared to conditional 0 BTS fee with 50k USD cost, we'd better to choose the first option now. 

How can one use Kkachi. Is it software I need to download?

It's closed source so you cannot directly use Kkachi. If you want, you can invest in under some conditions
The conditions are,

1) All your principal is protected in terms of quantity (not value. If you invest in 1 BTC, you can guaranteed to recoup 1 BTC)
2) Your fund should consist of Bitcoin and altcoin (such as BTS) 50/50 in value, at least roughly. (e.g. 1 BTC + 100k BTS)
3) The fund should be kept in Kkachi at least 15 days not to intervene bot's activity.
4) Minimum investment is 1 BTC worth. (e.g. 0.5 BTC, 50k BTS)
5) 40% of the fee will be deducted from the profit.  -> Edit: I will reduce the fee significantly so many can use kkachi with reasonable costs.
*6) If connected exchange is compromised, 50% of your fund can be haircut.

PM me if you're interested in.

Quote from: clayop on February 21, 2016, 06:15:02 pm

The price at Feb 4 (when alt started anti-dilution post): $0.003215. Now $0.004176. +29.9%.

Just coincidence? During the same period, Dash went down -7.6%, Doge increased slightly, +6.7%

And you imply tht this effect is tge sole result of alts voting? I wonder what happens if the others that are working behind the scene doing business developmwnt and coding just do something else.

Or in other words, what fraction of that raise is a result of
- cnx developing stealth
- me developing python tools
- business development happening behind the scenes?
- educational material maturing constantly

Please tell me!

I cannot conclude which one was the major cause of the price move. Most likely, it was a combination of multiple factors.
However, I may say that at least anti-dilution didn't destroy our market cap.

I found an irony.

BM created the DEX and want to improve its liquidity. But he doesn't use the DEX.

http://cryptofresh.com/b/3577692

Quote from: btswildpig on February 19, 2016, 04:46:30 pm

is there a bug in BTS where localhost can produce coin from thin air ?  curios

Assuming each time he sends bts to polo he dumps and doesn't send it to any other accounts we don't know of, he has already dumped 35M BTS. $100k approximately assuming a price of $0.003

He is down to 20M "only" but claimed more shares 4 days ago so there's no way of knowing if he can just keep claiming funds in case he has even a bigger amount of BTS. At $0.004 is more $80k, this, assuming he doesn't have more or the price increases. It can be $100k or more.

FYI look at his another account (probably), trust