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Stakeholder Proposals / Re: MineBitShares.com - A virtual mining multi-pool for BitSharesX
« on: September 09, 2014, 07:41:46 am »
I'm very interested in pointing an asic at this when it arrives, keep up the good work!
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Alright, perhaps I was incorrect in using the term 'requiring', but some comments from users here are along the lines of not voting for anyone who does not disclose their real life identities, and voting out users who don't disclose identities is excluding users who believe privacy is important.
Here is what it boils down to: people can vote however they like. Some people want to vote for people whose identity they know. Some people don't care about identity. We can argue about the advantages and disadvantages of each, but for you (and others) to come here and start bullying people because they have different voting preferences than you is wrong. Who are you to tell me that I cannot vote out delegates whose identity I don't know and trust??? That is the entire point of DPOS - you vote how you want and I vote how I want, each according to his values and criteria. I don't care if you disagree with me but when you start acting machismo (like the dude who had to let us know that he carries a gun lol) and threatening other people because of their voluntary voting preferences you are just making yourself look stupid.What do you forsee malicious users being able to pull off with one delegate node? Surely this system is more secure than being able to fall victim to one delegate? If you're worried about one user having 50 different identities and 50 delegates, then don't vote in users who offer nothing back to the community.
I described one such attack above. And FYI there is really no way to know for sure the number of delegates that a particular user is running.On another note - if someone was to break the btsx system, there would be no legal consequences.. this isn't a regulated system, nor is running a delegate providing you a legally binding contract. The real life consequences you refer to sounds like promoting psychopathic vigilantism.
Wrong again. Cryptocurrencies are treated as a commodity asset (ie, property) in most legal jurisdictions, and as a currency in others. Stealing property/money is illegal in most places and can land you in jail. Apparently punishing people for theft is "psychopathic vigilantism." I don't even... how could.... sometimes I don't even know why I try...
Alright, perhaps I was incorrect in using the term 'requiring', but some comments from users here are along the lines of not voting for anyone who does not disclose their real life identities, and voting out users who don't disclose identities is excluding users who believe privacy is important.I also massively oppose requiring delegates to provide their real life identities.[...]
Either you are trolling or you have horrible reading comprehension. Please show me where anyone proposed making this a requirement??? As mentioned in nearly every single post in this thread: we are talking about VOLUNTARY information. Your concerns about providing realworld identity are valid and as I stated previously, I SHARE THOSE CONCERNS. This is why I am not a delegate. Please stop distorting the positions of other people and spreading misinformation. People like YOU are on my radar...
All of that being said, I place a heavy emphasis on identity verification in who I vote for. Identity matters. As an example, imagine the guys who run BTC-E (anonymously) decide to shut down their site and walk away with millions of dollars in deposits. As a depositor, what recourse do you have without knowing their identity??? Now, imagine we already knew their real-world identities. How likely are they to try anything malicious? Are they more likely or less likely? Common sense.
its not a fixed number!It costs far less to host a delegate than it costs to mine a proof of work crypto, so I disagree with that being a negative factor.
but more delegates mean more costs. so you have to make a choice between decentralation and costs
Something we really need to research is the impact that one delegate can actually have on the network.I also massively oppose requiring delegates to provide their real life identities. It straight up goes against the point of titan, and comes across as heavily suspicious why you're so interested in this information. Btsx is in an extremely grey area legally, no doubt it will be under the gaze of governments before long, and I don't want to be dragged away and thrown into guantanamo Bay for hosting a decentralized banking/exchange system. Anyone demanding real life information should first provide their own real life Id to prove they don't work for an intelligence agency/government.
I believe this is a very valid concern for many people. There are also those who like to keep their privacy from some strangers who may disturb (eg stalking, spamming) their real life in person. On the other hand, the bitshare community needs to know their voted delegates are reliable and do not suddenly 'disappear'. Perhaps one approach is for the delegate candidate to provide information that the community can use to access his/her reputation and/or track records. What do you think?