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The Chinese community has been craving for a response for long to no avail.  I hope someone can help them.

https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=13529.msg184391#msg184391

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中文 (Chinese) / 新推出的PTS 2.0链
« on: December 15, 2014, 03:49:02 pm »
翻译:

新DPOS为基础的PTS链刚刚签署了它的第一个块!

源代码:https://github.com/PTS-DPOS/PTS/tree/v2.0
Linux软件包: http://software.opensuse.org/download.html?project=home%3Ap_conrad%3Abts&package=PTS
微软视窗建:  https://github.com/PTS-DPOS/PTS/releaseshttp://pts.cubeconnex.com/download

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中文 (Chinese) / PTS升级与快照公告(第三方团队)
« on: December 06, 2014, 06:06:43 am »
感谢cn-members帮助翻译英文社区公告 - https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=11877.0

************更新****************

* Dry Run #1 (试运行 #1) 已经宣布,拥有新的导入特性(通过签名信息): https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=11980
这也是征集测试者和初始受托人(详细情况在帖子里)

************************************

概要

* 在12月14日进行快照
* 新的网站可以用了 www.ptscrypto.com
* GUI图形界面的客户端已完成了 - https://github.com/PTS-DPOS/PTS/releases
* 测试网络Testnet已经稳定,Dry Run #1 很快就会公告





PTS(原来叫Protoshares)是比特股生态系统的原始股。PTS是在比特股工具组开发之前就已经诞生的,比特股工具组是一个革命化的区块链技术,使用了Dan Larimer(Bytemaster)的DPoS共识算法。

PTS是一个让建立在工具组上的未来DAC进行股份空投的工具。根据比特股社会共识,PTS持有者会在将来的DAC里面接收到最少10%的股份分配。
现在,工具组的研发已经完成而第一个DAC(比特股)已经上线,升级PTS到使用比特股工具组的DPoS算法来代替缓慢的、低效的POW算法的日子已经到来。我们邀请你加入,庆祝PTS的重生。一个历史上的始祖、杰出的股份空投工具,现在再加上前所未有的DPos技术。

快照
现在的POW区块链上的区块产出速度已经到达了极其缓慢的地步。因此,升级PTS会使用最后一天即2014年12月14日(UTC时间)之前产出并发表到网络上的状态来快照。交易所应该尊重你在新链上的权益(具体详细情况待续)



规格

* 10 秒钟区块确认时间
* PTS 供应量会扩展到10亿 PTS
* 供应量永远不会有通胀或者通缩
* 当前的PTS持有者会根据快照日期时的情况收到他们在新链里对应的比例的权益。


特性

* 公平化的100% POW工作量证明分发
* 使用TITAN技术实现真正的匿名性
* 没有丑陋的哈希地址(发送和接收都使用用户名)


社会共识

比特股社会共识是一个不具有约束性的协议,以及一个让将来比特股DAC产品的开发者去空投最少10% 股份的邀请。
这样,PTS会接收到不断的分红,以拥有将来BTS DAC产品股权的形式。而且不像比特币,那些最大的持有者(交易所)是不会尊重一个股份空投的,而PTS友好的交易所像BTer,Poloniex和BTC38有尊重PTS在新DAC里面的股权的良好记录。这让PTS成为对那些想专注于DAC友好的股东和最广泛分配的开发者们最理想的股份空投工具。


原则

* 简单- PTS是DPOS机制。是一个DPOS协议的最纯净实施,而没有那些DAC具体功能。这样,PTS是比特股生态系统的基础层。

* 开放- PTS不止是开源的,而且是开放策略的。PTS给那些第三方开发者和投资者根据他们对比特股平台的开放式开发和贡献的力度进行推广。同时PTS对任何建立在它基础上特定的DAC的特性、技术和商业策略都是不可知的。PTS就是DAC里面的瑞士(中立国)。

* 协作- PTS会在建设的过程中考虑到延展性和协作性。除了作为营利性的DAC的共同核心外,PTS同时会担当新DAC开发者的发射台和资源。这样,任何对PTS的贡献都是对比特股生态系统的贡献。PTS的咒语是:容易使用、容易建设、容易复制分叉(自己搞一个)。

* 稳定性- PTS是一个稳定的、非通胀的、公平分配的代币。PTS并不是一个商业,也不是以最大化利润的目标来设计。根据商业环境的变化,特定应用的DAC必须进化来实现他们的竞争优势,PTS也可能会进化,但只会是缓慢的、稳定的,以服务于PTS持有者的利益以及这些原则。


PTS 比与 比特币




资源

* 注官网
* PTS 论坛
* 比特股分论坛
* PTS Block Explorer
* Github
* Reddit



将来的目标

* 在升级以后,一个完全的重新打造品牌。
* 一个包含技术、市场推广和社区资源的套件,让DAC开发者可以在PTS上进行开发。

交易所

www.bter.com
www.poloniex.com

真诚地感谢pc和 cube的开发工作,testz的支持和反馈,cass对网站的帮助,I3对返还捐赠到AGS资金的PTS到社区里面以及让这个项目可以有一线生机。

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KeyID / KeyID has entered end-of-life. What's next?
« on: November 06, 2014, 06:57:28 am »
KeyID has successfully entered end-of-life.  What is next?

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我在此呼吁志愿者采取行动,帮助升级和把PTS变成个货币DAC和做为股下降的仪器.

新的比特股超级DAC(BTS)会在某些方面更改,使其更适合于采纳为利基应用 (用户发出的资产交换)
不适合被采用为一项全球性的货币.

超级DAC有以下用不理想作为货币性能:

* 通货膨胀的门槛太低. 通过允许通货膨胀的高达8%永久的协议, 你最终面临的情况是大股东可以“写自己的薪水”. 超级DAC最大的股东是I3.他们将设置自己的工资.这将需要几乎是不可能的金额来完全把投他们出去.任何货币(即使是比特币)可以修改通货膨胀. 所不同的是通货膨胀没有烘入协议中.这将需要一个更大的股权来实现(用硬'fork').

BTS忽视了社区的主要原则之一.这就是稀缺性应该是(几乎)不可被侵犯.

* 超级DAC的第二个弱点是分配.AGS分布已经疏远了一些较比特币纯粹主义者.他们是坚决反对“首次公开募股币”.
我不一定与他们的理念认同.但有多数用户只会投资于那些没有任何开募股, 没有预先矿, 而只有POW分布的币. POW有它的缺陷.我认为POW分布有一个大优势 - 它是"不需要信任","可证明".该开发者并没有“捐献”任何币给为自己.

* 超级DAC的最后弱点是一个合乎"DAC比喻"逻辑的延伸.杀手级应用一直是,永远是货币.

运行DAC就像一个业务会导致更灵活,适应性令牌. 这些好处是以货币的"稳定的类型"换来的.换句话说, 一个成为胜出又普遍的货币将有巨大不同于“数字企业”的属性.

为了打造一个成功的货币DAC ,我们运行我们的“生意”时该把自己目标定位于最好的货币和价值储藏(杀手级应用). 要有好价值储藏,任何币在协议层维护神圣的"货源稀少",将有猛进竞争的优势.
加密空间正在寻找一个有非常适用属性的令牌.BTS应该有一匹马在这场比赛.

未来
那么,价值的分布可能在顶级竞争会导致类似今天的信用卡.有几个币在市场份额得到大部分.
有一长龙的竞争对手对准越来越多的利基应用.币利润这场战斗很可能不会被比特币 (这主要是由于POW的陷阱),
也不会是先进功能的币(NXT). 任何币如要变成个全球的货币,它必须能够吸引政府和严肃的投资者,也必须被视为是
(一)公平分配,(二)缺乏(无通胀), (三)有效 (DPOS)及(四)安全.

如要在这币之上建立任何功能, 千万不可牺牲这四様东西。

为什么建立比特股 Bitshares PTS?

* PTS是现有比特股产品而拥有广泛的支持网络
* 尽管它的所有缺点, POW的方法是当前可用的公平分布.PTS已经有一年以上的100%POW分布.
* DPOS是最好的一致性算法. 它可以在一个纯粹的和不可知论的令牌来尝试.它具有较强的稀缺性和公平分配.
* 我们可以捎带上I3的开发工作.不需要被束缚于企业战略勋的潜在陷阱.
* PTS分布的纯度.其他DAC可用为份额跌落的理想候选.

现在做什么?

* 我们正在组装的技术团队。如果你想参加 (受托人,试验,等).请联系我.
* 品牌甲板,网站和营销材料正在进行。
* 我们需要联系主要交易所和协调一致的努力,以促进我们的信息

如果你想帮助与贡献, 请直接给我发信(DM) 或点击这里

原作者: alphaBar

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KeyID / KeyID end-of-live. What happens to the KeyID accounts?
« on: October 26, 2014, 04:14:47 pm »
Any idea how the KeyID accounts would go into the new BTS system?  Will there be some kind of merging of two sets of accounts - KeyID and BTSX? Or are they replaced with a new set of BTS accounts?

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At the request of yangsbo from the Chinese community, I am posting a translated version of https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=9868.msg128292;topicseen#msg128292 here.



Bitshare was launched several months ago. The market has opened up. As a long btsx, I see btsx's speed of development and potential. I also realised its hidden or not-easily discovered risks and danger areas.  This can be treated as Steven Xu's personal opinion. I am sharing this article with you and those who love to discuss our path of development.

BTS fan has undying support for it. They even made interesting quotes about it.  Indeed, these quotes have a certain degree of support to it, lasting a long R&D phase. As a BTS fan with a dream, I think we need to consider the core values. We explore BTS development direction, deriving from its core needs.

First point. We like to discuss bitcny and bitusd - these are 3i's recommended official assets. Steven's opinion is that we need to clearly identify who are the customers of bitusd and other virtual currencies. We need to find out what are the benefits these customers are looking for, analyse their needs and use the findings for targeted R&D and marketing. For simplicity, I will use two groups of customers for discussion sake.

Firstly - the Enterprises including IT companies and electronic merchants eg Dell and HP. Secondly - the end-user consumers. I categorise this way for simplicity and conciseness - easy to read.

For Enterprises:

Frankly, I do not see the possibility where the current bitusd and other bit assets will be used in a large scale manner. The main difficulty lies with enterprises need to comply with legal and regulatory rules. They cannot use bitusd (like USD) to pay suppliers nor use it for working capital and pay bank loans. From a legal standpoint, it is not possible to use bitusd. If Company A uses bitusd to pay Company B as a load repayment, Company B will say, how do companies issue invoices and pay tax with bitusd?  There are no answers to these questions. There are technical ways of improvement eg giving bitusd's holder interest.
But they cannot solve a fundamental problem. Indeed, enterprises find bitusd and other virtual currencies cumbersome. I do not see a solution to this problem. Let's tentatively see it as something that would attract the consumers.

For the Consumers:

Now lets looks at the consumers' end.  In the ecosystem, the producers' link is not connected. THe entire chain cannot operate. When one bought bitcny, it cannot be spent. Without an "exit path", bitcny has no practical use. No consumer will use it. Even if there came a day all enterprises accept bitcny, it would not have any competitive advantage unless there is some special offer to use it. What would be the competitive advantage over current paypal and unionpay network? Paypal has first-mover advantage and has established a trusted reputation. As a late comer, without innovative feature advantage, it is only a mean of payment. It does not help much with just 'trading market' thin advantage.  Users of bitcny are risk-averse or they would have use bts to spend rather than bitcny.  This is why internal trading of bitusd and bitcny are always far below 1 or even 0.8 of the real currencies - a weird phenomenon.   BM and 3i has been trying to force a peg through technical means. Steven believes this is a futile attempt and bound for failure. The will of the market cannot be changed. We cannot use the same way of the 90s China centrally-planned economy to "plan" bitcny's value. We should leave it to the market players to find its value.

At this point, are you (bts fan) being affected and feeling sad? Stay calm. Steven has no 'dark' thoughts on bts. Steven Xu and others - HackFisher, "咕噜" have in-depth exchanges of ideas. Steven Xu would like to recommend a bts's future development path to I3, Mr Stan and all bts fans:

Develop enterprise bitasset with practical interest and bts interest platform in a win-win solution.  Using this solution, it can indirectly support market discovery of bitusd's and bitcny's values.

At the moment, the seemingly uninteresting third-party issued bitassets contain limitless business opportunities. There was an article that mentioned about bitusd debit card a few days ago. I shall borrow this concept and expand the ideas on it. Let's take for example a big electronic company or a supermart with its own financial membership system. What can bts help them? What do they need? Their immediate concerns are their customer acquisition and sales revenue. Acquiring customers: We can use bts platform to divert some users to them. Although the user base in bts is currently not big and the value is not much, once the flow is established the situation would be different. How do we divert? We make use of bitasset distribution capability. Use it to help enterprises issue their debit cards. If electronic merchant A issued a billion bitassetA and it provides a top-up service, customers can top-up/buy bitassetA. The balance in the customers' accounts has equivalent values that can be used to buy merchant A's full range of products.

To acquire customers and improve sales, merchant A can use part of its sales profit to provide discounts and some promotional items. With these benefits, the consumers would naturally exchange fiat  for bitassetA. The needs for bitassetA's existence are formed. Bts now has a small 'exit path'.  BitassetA can be exchanged internally to btsx, then to bitCny, and lastly to fiat via third-party exchanges.

This completes the entire bitassetA market exchanges. Although the whole process can be abit tedious, the exchange can take place. In this chain of commercial exchanges, merchant A does not need to take legal risks because it only issues/sells bitassetA. It does not need to take responsibility for subsequent exchanges to fiat. There is no illegal raising of funds or fraudulent use of its customers' monies. It only has to fulfill its obligation of bitassetA to its products conversion. BitassetA exchanges are on the bts platform. So, does bts platform has any legal risks.  Fundamentally NO. This is because it exchanges bitassetA and btsx/bitcny.  This is not fiat. The only legal responsibility lies on third-party exchanges bitcny <-> fiat. I recommend let this heavy responsibility be taken on by btc38 or other similar exchanges.
They are in this trade. In fact, bter has started such trading.

Let's look at the other end. What are the benefits that bitassetA can bring to merchant A's consumers and bts. Merchant A sells bitassetA and acquire funds. The fund has valuable use. Bts can enable user diversion, expanding the user base and increase sales. This is what enterprise businesses want - in exchange of losing abit of the profit. The consumers get their discounts and gain from bitasset's interest.  In addition to payment processing, it provides for value-protection, value-add. Bts now has its 'exit path'. With more enterprises joining in and issuing bitassets, market volume increases. The consumers can freely buy/sell new bitassets. This brings in more demands for btsx and bitcny. Arbitrage activities increases demand for bitcny. Bitassets trading activities would bring the whole market to live!
The entire ecosystem can grow healthily. Our objective can be met.

I have narrated a grand vision and I hope you would be excited with. How can BTS proceed from here? Presently, bts does not have a professional team in China which does enterprises solutions R&D and promotion. I recommend organise and build up such a team soon. If this is not achievable in the short term, we can look into working with third-party companies. This is a gold mine. If HackFisher or others setup a enterprise-solution consulting firm in China. There is a huge market out there. Just imagine, China Unicom and China mobile phone cards can be bought and exchange in bts. Electricity usage fee can be bought and trade in bts.
Water utility bills..walmart membership card becomes bitasset. Consulting firms that focus on such solutions have a good future.

The above is a discussion on bitasset. If we are to go deeper to analyse and identify enterprises' needs, we can discover more bitasset distribution needs.Bitshare can in fact realise a part of the societ cash<->iou exchanges, attract the consumers and expanded the enterprises' customer base. How to further discover the bitasset's capabilities. This article is to initiate a discussion. Please share your views. 

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General Discussion / Our most immediate needs: a good wallet
« on: October 10, 2014, 09:45:42 am »
At the request of shuiwuhun from the Chinese community, I am posting a translated version of his post from https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=9879.msg128423;topicseen#msg128423 here.



(1) Digital currency is still in the early phase development.  The current state of digital currency is not much different from the 1995's stage of the Internet.  The foundation of the eco-system is still very weak.

(2) BTSX has a lot of potential. Comparatively, Bitshare's ecosystem has a big gap from Bitcoin's. 

(3) A lot of people said btsx is different from Bitcoin.  One is a share while the other is a currency.  This is nonsense.  If btsx cannot be an alternative to Bitcoin (note NOT replacing), it has no value in its existence. Mastercoin can act an alternative.

(4) A currency must have a value.  It needs to have a good circulation.  To a large degree, a currency's value depends on how many people are using it. If we want it to be widely used, It has to be convenient and easy to use.

(5) BTSX wallet is not 'mature'.  New users not easy to use it.  Worst still, it is not well supported in Win7 64bit. 

(6) BitAsset needs not be rushed out nor eagerly pushed out at the moment.  It is like doing Blog, taobao during the 1995s. It is not that it is not right to do it. Rather the timing is not ripe.  People are not ready for it.

(7) I think the biggest advantage of btsx is DPOS - it gives stability and fast 10s transaction. Compare to Bitcoin's 10min and unstability, btsx is outstanding.  However this advantage can be gone if btsx is developing slowly.

I heard Bitcoin's next version will reduce this gap. With bitcoin getting more stable and secured, I believe more companies will provide "0 confirmation" services.  When that happens, btsx's advantage would be gone.

I am urging I3 to concentrate all effort and energy on developing the wallet while hold back on bitasset and marketing efforts. Once the wallet is completely working, the rest can come in. For marketing, I3 may not even do it, the big holders/investors of bstx would do it. Again, it is of no use promoting a non-working product.

The prime most important task should be - safe and easy to use wallet  (working with WinXP and Win7), web-wallet, andriod and ios wallets.  In addition, currently new users who bought from exchange needs to send to a registered account which requires 0.5btsx. How are the new users going to do it? Beg for it?

Could I3 please fix the API's bug so that new users can send to their public addresses from the exchanges?


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Stakeholder Proposals / Delegate bitcube
« on: September 02, 2014, 05:55:15 pm »
Hi there,

I am attracted by the vibrant Bitshare devs-community ecosystem.  I have been a long-time member of the Vertcoin community.  Vertcoin's main advantage is Decentralisation. This is achieved via three networks of decentralised P2Pool  mining nodes.  I created and I am maintaining a real-time combined P2Pool node finder for Vertcoin miners (See http://coin.cubeconnex.com/poollist).  I am also a pioneer merged-mining ProxyPool pool operator. Proxypool feeds onto a network of P2pool.  It helps miners to get consistent payouts while lowering the variance due to high P2pool hashes. This is especially important to miners with low hashrate.  Merged-mining let a miner mines two or more coins at the same time and with the same gpu hashes.

I like what you guys are doing. I like to contribute and become an active member here.  I have setup a new delegate bitcube (Ubuntu) with a payrate of 80%. 

I would appreciate it if you would vote for delegate bitcube.

wallet_approve_delegate bitcube true

Thank you for your kind support.



Updated 9 Oct 2014
-----------------------

Delegate bitcube is fortunate to be given the opportunity to support toast's effort in the promotion of KeyID to new users.  I am very thankful to toast.  A new Get Free KeyID faucet - http://bit.cubeconnex.com:5555 is launched.  The faucet provides Free KeyID accounts to new users. 

If you are a new user, you will need to have a twitter or google account to be authenticated with the faucet. No private information is gathered.  Your private data in twitter or google account is safe.  You will also need to download a wallet from http://keyid.info and create an account in the wallet.  The public key from the newly created account can then be used to register with http://bit.cubeconnex.com:5555.  Do freely let me know if you need any help.

I would like to thank "onceuponatime" for his generous donation to the Get FREE KeyID fund.  If you like to contribute to the fund too, please send your DNS to :

ID: bitcube

All your generous donations / contributions to this effort will be made known.

Your vote and support are important. Please vote for delegate bitcube.   

wallet_approve_delegate bitcube true



Updated 17 Oct 2014
-----------------------

I am pleased to announce the birth of Delegate freekeyid.  Delegate freekeyid is honoured to be tasked to support and manage the main freekeyid.com faucet - an important initiative by toast to promote KeyID to new users.

The Main Get Free KeyID faucet is at http://freekeyid.com (alternatively http://freekeyid.cubeconnex.com)

Backup Free KeyID faucet is at http://bit.cubeconnex.com:5555  (ie if the Main faucet is down, you can use this faucet)

I like to thank cass for his generous donation to delegate bitcube in support of the "Get Free KeyID" initiative.   :-*

I like to take this opportunity to assure all donors that all their precious donations are carefully managed. We put in extra effort to make sure the fund is helping genuine new users and we watch out for people who are trying to exploit the donors' goodwill.

I urge you to contribute your DNS (no matter big or small amount) to:

ID: freekeyid

Please vote for delegate freekeyid

wallet_approve_delegate freekeyid true
 




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Technical Support / Linux bitshares_client 0.4.9 keeps crashing
« on: August 30, 2014, 04:33:37 am »
What is the requirement for running bitshares_client 0.4.9?  bitshares_client keeps crashing in a matter of a few seconds upon running it.  bitshares_client version 0.4.8 has the same problem too.  Below are the error output:


============

bitshares_client version 0.4.9. Ubuntu 14.04 32bit

Client always crashes after running for a few seconds/minutes. The following are commands and error messages:

gdb ./bitshares_client
run

(wallet closed) >>> unlock 999999
passphrase:
Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault.
0x082826b5 in fc::exception::to_detail_string (this=0xbba58e0, ll=ll@entry=...) at /root/bitsharesx/libraries/fc/src/exception.cpp:144
144 ss << variant(my->_code).as_string() <<" " << my->_name << ": " <_what<<"\n";

another attempt below:

gdb ./bitshares_client
run
cube (locked) >>> wallet_list_my_accounts
Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault.
fc::tcp_socket::close (this=this@entry=0x5c) at /root/bitsharesx/libraries/fc/src/network/tcp_socket.cpp:64
64 if( is_open() )


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