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中文 (Chinese) / Re: 提议让Bm关闭各大交易所bts对btc交易
« on: October 26, 2014, 06:27:08 pm »
你还不如建议关闭BTSX在钱部的流通,外部只能是法币与BTC\LTC\法币之间与BITUSD\BTCNY之间的兑换,要玩BTSX去内盘买。但是有个前提,钱包和市场要做好起来,不然会死得更快。所以在钱包和市场没有完善好以前,BTSX在外流通有利于价值的增长积累的。但确实也会放慢锚定的成功。

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是为样的,同步问题是有问题。也有时会崩溃。钱包的问题是需要放重点在上面了。可能前面过多时间放在如何定规则是锚定上面了。市场的显示也经常有问题。不过能理解,软件开发不是一天两天的,这个不单单是钱包,还是交易所。
请使用钱包之前先备份好钱包,导出私钥备份好。在关键时刻将会用得到的。

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有一定的道理但不一定完全绝对。
现在并没有说剥夺AGS\PTS的第三方分配权至少目前没有,而且官方的英文社区也在说社区共识原来的还是生效,但是日后怎么样不得而知。应该也或许会像你所说的,AGS\PTS慢慢淡化出去也有可能。
还有,如果本次只是简单的价值合并,并不是新的DAC,即:3%DNS+3%VOTE+7%PTS+7%AGS=20%,似乎可以解释得了,也似乎不行,因为既然已经承诺了第三方会分股权给AGS\PTS,此次价值合并就完全没有必要再配给PTS\AGS了或者说就算要补偿也只能补偿PTS从流通变成了非流通,AGS不应该给,只有新的DAC才需要分给PTS\AGS持有者。另外对于DNS的估价是否准确也很难衡量,确实也是伤害到了很多人,主要是DNS追高的投资者。
总之本次的合并既不可以完全用社区共识解释得通,直到现在也不知如何定议,是新DAC还是合并DAC。损害了很多人的利益也是事实。就算利益上不受损,感情上也受损。但另外一方面也未必确实是坏处,规模优势会更明显。只能说,3I做事的手法欠妥,没有很好地保护好各方的利益,在此事件中也没有起到很好的解释作用。中文社区也缺少了有效的中间沟通人。中国区的创始人、负责人也并没有很好地引导大家,解释清楚,听取各方意见再行合并。
另外很重要的一点是:利益、价值观、承受力。每个人都是不同的,我们无法要求每个人都和自己一样,不是吗!希望大家都好。

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Marketplace / Re: ProtoShares Exchanges?
« on: October 26, 2014, 07:38:16 am »
OK,now let me give you the webaddress:
1、http://www.btc38.com/trade.html?mk_type=btc&btc38_trade_coin_name=pts ( It have not English interface,but only Chinese interface.)
     In this way, you must use the QQ account wich can download from www.qq.com
2、https://bter.com/trade/pts_btc ( It have English interface and Chinese interface. )
   

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仔细想了想第一个与第二个有什么不同,我想有的,GENESIS估计是合并后给这次损失较大的人做个标记,而合并后PTSer比起AGSer牺牲大,AGSer几乎没有损失,反而得到了逐步流动权,所以不应该记在GENESIS内。所以第一个是最合理的,其实这次牺牲的还不止PTSer,还有DNSer,所以即使第三方没有补偿给DNSer分红权,至少也要给DNSer记入GENESIS标记。

第一点你说对了,但是DNS原本是没有配股权的,因为无论是下面哪个,都是由PTS\AGS配股得来的,BTSX\DNS\VOTE,DNS确实因为政策的变动而受到了损失。后面3I主要是想发展BTS所以慢慢地,其实第三方的配股权也会慢慢从PTS\AGS剥离开了,只不过一开始在使用3I的工具包时,还是会考虑到分配一部分给PTS\AGS的,后来,第三方因为会从BTS的系统工具包中获益,所以分配部分给BTS也是正常的。因此,此处讨论的PTS\AGS配股权,我认为只是在一定的时段内还有意义,长远来看,基本上PAS\AGS的配股权会慢慢地被BTS所剥夺,但那个时间,因为持有PTS\AGS的人均收回了成本或者是赚了钱,所以也就没有那么大意见了,这可能也就是需要将PTS从流动转为固定的原因之一,当然,还有挖矿等原因。这样的认识不一定对,但是也不能排除不对。

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中文 (Chinese) / Re: 这对父子真的很逗比也很可爱
« on: October 26, 2014, 07:00:14 am »
你们的类比好难懂呀。哥们,编个有点滑稽又有意味的才行呀。

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4.22版本安装后一直同步不了,刚开始显示一会连接数后,秒数不断地增加,然后就断开了,什么360,金山等网络软件和管理软件也都关闭了。真心不知道什么时候能够同步上。

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中文 (Chinese) / Re: 求助:btsx重新导入私钥之后余额不符
« on: October 26, 2014, 03:19:06 am »
有时候是这样的

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我猜sudo应该就是J神。

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不错,不同意见是应该的,这样才是社区。

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Because we need to roll it all together to simplify our story.   Our market story is far too complex for the general worldwide market we are positioning for.  With the new set up PTS and AGS each will effectively received 1% of the drop of a a much larger potential pie...... (many more partners).

far too complex?
post 11.5   pts snapshot and turn to a picture  similar with AGS
not liquid.
honor  10%+10%  for   repaying their support   at the beginning of the BTS  development career

PTS/AGS WILL receive 10% of the new BTS DAC.   

Breakdown:

                   7% AGS&PTS
                   3% VOTE/DNS <-- (( if you were an AGS/PTS owner as of Aug you will received this also))
-------------------
                  10%  TOTAL



That seems to be,but in the old Social Contract,PTS/AGS  may be get total 20% shares when  new 3rd DACs  honor  for .
But now,new 3rd DACs  honor  for BTS with 20% shares .


The original Social Consensus still applies.  We just recognize ever-expanding ways to honor it.



Thank you for stan. It looks really good. The original Social Consensus  still applies
It may be the language barrier  in the Chinese community .

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中文 (Chinese) / Re: 3I合并调整解读与建议 ---比特信徒
« on: October 25, 2014, 12:46:24 pm »
我的建议是  现在再改比例  势必再起波澜。还是不要改了
但是以后重大决定势必要用vote系统  让大家投票决定。还要让大家充分参与

可惜的是到目前为止,官方没有对此给出明确的诚恳的态度。确实这是人祸,并非天灾。这才是重点。
第三方配股权也是含糊不清,共识是什么?少数服从多数?何为多数?持股量?受众面?所以你说的用VOTE是一种可行的设想,但也只能是以后了。

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Because we need to roll it all together to simplify our story.   Our market story is far too complex for the general worldwide market we are positioning for.  With the new set up PTS and AGS each will effectively received 1% of the drop of a a much larger potential pie...... (many more partners).

far too complex?
post 11.5   pts snapshot and turn to a picture  similar with AGS
not liquid.
honor  10%+10%  for   repaying their support   at the beginning of the BTS  development career

PTS/AGS WILL receive 10% of the new BTS DAC.   

Breakdown:

                   7% AGS&PTS
                   3% VOTE/DNS <-- (( if you were an AGS/PTS owner as of Aug you will received this also))
-------------------
                  10%  TOTAL



That seems to be,but in the old Social Contract,PTS/AGS  may be get total 20% shares when  new 3rd DACs  honor  for .
But now,new 3rd DACs  honor  for BTS with 20% shares .

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It sounds good. I agree with you.
NEW 3rd DACs  honor  for it or not that is  not important but the Social Contract must be obey .
 +5% +5% +5% +5%

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General Discussion / Re: Explanation for PTS/AGS Holders goes here!
« on: October 25, 2014, 09:40:27 am »
I didn't betray anyone... I have many friends and family that are AGS holders post Feb 28... I am a large ags holder Post Feb 28.   

AGS was a gift... no strings attached.  Anyone who has AGS and is complaining has no one they can blame but themselves for setting wrong expectations. 

We said we would recommend AGS/PTS get 10% each of *FUTURE* DACs built using the toolkit.   Congrats, you got 10% of *PAST* dacs as well.

so  why delete the "draft license"? Shy?

Did we have a announcement which announced that it was a draft license?
If somebody saw it before and wanted support 3i to be a long long-term investments, then went to sleep long time, when he wake up, he finds he is naked.

Yes it's his fault, it's ourself's responsibilities to invest in something, even something(who is something?funny) is always so changeable.
Social Consensus is not Sincerity, i got it.

PS, bm, is bt & b in your list?


Like this? PTS -> AGS -> btsx -> bts -> bt -> b -> ?
 :D :D :D

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