The thing I see over and over from traders on polo (this is one of our main target audiences for using bitshares), is that having to pay a fee for a cancelled order is the thing they hat,e nad is making them not want to use bitshares.


Imo, the make order/cancelled order fee should be made as low as possible (only nonzero to prevent spam).  For ALL users, not just lifetime.

Transfer fees and fees for an order that actually executes can be high as they are now.


I think this needs to happen in order for Bitshares to have any traction among traders.

Its AE's fault, hes dumping millions of BTS spawned from thin air:

https://bitshares.openledger.info/#/account/follow-my-vote/overview

But dont worry, hes registered loads of liberals and conservatives , and he paid yourmom for services rendered.

Is this true?I guess the only people who would want to sell BTS at 1000 sats are those who got it free.

Quote from: Ander on November 02, 2015, 07:42:52 pm

Quote from: mf-tzo on November 02, 2015, 07:29:51 pm

I just lost all my bts because I was margin long in polo..
That is the pain you feel when you support blindly something I suppose instead of day trading like most people..
The luck of support at these levels is just so disappointing..

I said a million times that margin wasnt safe.  Its horrible that you lost everything mf-tzo, hope you at least have some left.

I feel like polo margin ruined BTS.  I tried it some and got hurt by it too, but managed to cover at a loss a couple times when things were starting to go down so I never got liquidated or anything, just lost some bts.  I should never have used it.  I probably wouldve also gotten liquidated on this drop if I'd had a margin position there, but luckily I got burned enough earlier on and stopped.

I feel like I'm pretty much done with crypto at this point.  If good projects like BTS can get shit on this hard by everyone while they pump stupid crap.  There is no sanity in the market.  BTS was one of the only projects that could hope to become profitable and actually be worth holding, but it got dumped to hell.

I'll just hold a few remaining btc, and my bts and muse and brownies forever and come back a while later and see if they are still worth anything.  There is no point selling them now.   Maybe try to buy a few more btc if it has a dip.

I'm in the same boat as you Ander. Woke up to see a message on my phone that I got margin called. Lost 25 BTC. Maybe I will comeback in the future. Good luck guys.

Ouch.   
In total from my attemtps to margin BTS on polo, I had about 7 btc in gains and about 15 btc in losses, for a net of a bit under 10 btc lost.  Never got a margin call, multiple times I panic sold in advance to avoid them and they couldve happened if I hadnt.  But more importantly my bts isnt worth much anymore.  Wish I had more btc instead. 

I just lost all my bts because I was margin long in polo..
That is the pain you feel when you support blindly something I suppose instead of day trading like most people..
The luck of support at these levels is just so disappointing..

I said a million times that margin wasnt safe.  Its horrible that you lost everything mf-tzo, hope you at least have some left.

I feel like polo margin ruined BTS.  I tried it some and got hurt by it too, but managed to cover at a loss a couple times when things were starting to go down so I never got liquidated or anything, just lost some bts.  I should never have used it.  I probably wouldve also gotten liquidated on this drop if I'd had a margin position there, but luckily I got burned enough earlier on and stopped.

I feel like I'm pretty much done with crypto at this point.  If good projects like BTS can get shit on this hard by everyone while they pump stupid crap.  There is no sanity in the market.  BTS was one of the only projects that could hope to become profitable and actually be worth holding, but it got dumped to hell.

I'll just hold a few remaining btc, and my bts and muse and brownies forever and come back a while later and see if they are still worth anything.  There is no point selling them now.   Maybe try to buy a few more btc if it has a dip. 

Quote from: Ander on November 01, 2015, 09:26:24 pm

This feels similar to how BTS sat between 1400-1500 for two straight weeks prior to the beginning of the last rise on the 2.0 announcement.

...or not ... (check on Polo  )

It looked the same it just broke down instead of up.

I think we need both gambling and prediction markets.

Quote from: Ander on October 30, 2015, 05:47:05 pm

Finally correct again about something...

maybe maybe

Well it went up 100 sats in the 30 minutes after I posted.

Now btc started rallying again and all alts started dropping, so I sold back the bts at 1350-1400 that I bought near 1300.   Gotta have some btc.

How can one even buy MUSE right now?