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General Discussion / Re: How is the bitUSD peg holding up?
« on: August 28, 2014, 03:18:46 am »
Market peg is holding up GREAT.

It really is amazing, isn't it??

 +5% It's great, exciting stuff!

Can't wait to fast forward a month or so from now when most teething problems are out the way and more traders and longs are in the market.

'When this baby hits 88 miles per hour, you're gonna see some serious shit'


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General Discussion / Re: Where is BitCNY?
« on: August 27, 2014, 08:38:38 pm »
maybe bitCNY is what will kick bitUSD to start given a high percentage of the trading volume comes from the chinese


That is my hope too! Also, after Brian's webinar tomorrow.

My thinking now says BitBTC is the one that will help BTSX the most in the short term, as I said in other thread...

"A lot of people have a mental block where they keep their crypto investments separate from their fiat.
Keeping fiat in crypto form either requires a lot of faith in the BTSX system (in which case your a BTSX bull & would prefer to short) or a huge amount of distrust in the regular financial system. (BTSX is very new and can't engender that level of trust yet nor does it have any BitUSD utility yet.) So in the short term <3 months you're relying mainly on traders etc. vs. a lot of demand from people who actually want to keep a position in fiat on the blockchain.

However very few people could resist moving some of their BTC position into BTSX if people are effectively paying them high interest shorting below the peg.

The BitBTC peg will be tighter and effective BTC interest will be more of a talking point. Confidence in BitBTC on BTSX will be easier and more natural than fiat. So you will attract a lot more BitBTC longs than BitUSD longs in the shor term. That peg being tighter will help the BitUSD peg."

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General Discussion / Re: Where have all the bids gone?
« on: August 27, 2014, 06:57:18 pm »
Another problem is we don't have BitBTC or BitCNY. We need both. Most people are dumping into BTC or CNY, not the USD.

Yes I agree with this BitBTC is the big one that can help a lot. Actually excited now!

A lot of people have a mental block where they keep their crypto investments separate from their fiat.
Keeping fiat in crypto form either requires a lot of faith in the BTSX system (in which case your a BTSX bull & would prefer to short) or a huge amount of distrust in the regular financial system. (BTSX is very new and can't engender that level of trust yet nor does it have any BitUSD utility yet.) So in the short term <3 months you're relying mainly on traders etc. vs. a lot of demand from people who actually want to keep a position in fiat on the blockchain.

However very few people could resist moving some of their BTC position into BTSX if people are effectively paying them high interest shorting below the peg.

The BitBTC peg will be tighter and effective BTC interest will be more of a talking point. Confidence in BitBTC on BTSX will be easier and more natural than fiat. So you will attract a lot more BitBTC longs than BitUSD longs in the shor term. That peg being tighter will help the BitUSD peg.

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General Discussion / Re: Where have all the bids gone?
« on: August 27, 2014, 01:25:17 pm »
At the moment people in BTSX are long term BTSX bulls the BitUSD market hasn't really come here yet. (The main time BitUSD will be heavily bid atm till that market arrives is if people are short term bearish.)
 
There's a conundrum that if you think BTSX is a relatively safe place to store the value of $ for the next few months that would make you a BTSX bull in which case you'll probably prefer to short BitUSD with your BTSX.

I identified this could be a problem before trading started,

https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=7416.msg99591#msg99591

Possible ideas for solutions

Introduce BitUSD + 10%. It's the same as shorting below the peg but it might look better if BitUSD was trading closer to the peg.

make a trading pair where the people going short aren't actually taking a leveraged position on the future of BTSX If/how this will work I don't know.

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Either way I think it will all work out once BTSX is worth a few billion dollars. Might just be limited general BitAsset demand beforehand but plenty of people willing to short

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"I didn't fail, I found 10,000 ways that didn't work" - Thomas Edison.

 :)

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Well I got it pretty wrong anyway, the idea is

1 BitUSD=1 USD

But if you're bullish on BTSX you short BitUSD below the peg. (Effectively paying interest but making a wide peg)

My example doesn't work at all.
I was trying to make a way for people to create something like a BitUSD without the person going short being long BTSX.



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General Discussion / Dumb idea of the day - Gold price linked BitAssets
« on: August 27, 2014, 02:31:57 am »
The BitUSD/BTSX peg is not super tight because people are bullish on BTSX as a result it may peg below the dollar and not a lot of BitUSD may be created.

Also BTSX is currently quite volatile, low liquidity and can potentially be manipulated by the exchanges. BitUSD will have a wide peg at any time based on bullishness/bearishness.

What about gold pegs?    G-USD/Gold

G-USD can be created by people shorting not based on the price of BTSX but on the price of gold.

This is far more stable less volatile. This peg will be super tight

If you are bullish on dollar vs gold you go long or if you just want G-USD (for the same reasons people want BitUSD but G-USD more stable I think) If you are bullish on gold vs. dollar you short. When two trades meet G-USD is created.

It should work exactly the same except a G-USD will always get you very close to a $ worth of BTSX because the gold/dollar peg will stay very tight unlike the dollar/BTSX peg which has the problems cited above.

We are pegging around the gold to dollar even though the collateral is still BTSX vs. pegging BTSX to dollar.

It's 3am here. I'm sure there's a simple reason this couldn't work just putting it out there

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General Discussion / Re: A Bitshares-x wallet for Zimbabwe
« on: August 27, 2014, 12:46:23 am »
This would also go down very well in Argentina, in fact you could probably contact someone like Bitpagos who may want to be a BitUSD broker right away.


They really struggle to get USD and their currency is currently experiencing a major devaluation.

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    With the official peso rate at record lows once again, the black-market Dolar-Blue tumbled to over 14/USD - a record low indicating dramatic devaluation ahead 

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-08-26/argentina-peso-plummets-record-bofa-warns-looming-economic-crisis

It's the 25th largest economy in the world, Bitcoin does very well there.

BitPagos could offer BitUSD quite easily on their current system maybe and users would prefer it to a volatile Bitcoin...

http://www.coindesk.com/bitpagos-brings-bitcoin-8000-convenience-stores-ripio/

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BitPagos has launched Ripio, a new bitcoin brokerage service that allows consumers in Argentina to buy small amounts of bitcoin at more than 8,000 convenience stores.
 

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“You can go to any location, give them your account in Ripio and the amount of pesos you want to get in bitcoins. Boom: you have some bitcoins. It’s going be extremely easy to use and to buy bitcoins easily, securely and near you, even if you don’t have a bank account. We think that this is going to push adoption.”
 

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General Discussion / Re: How to buy Overstock.com shares?
« on: August 26, 2014, 11:48:17 pm »
The network charges a small fee when you send a transaction or register an account. These all contribute to the daily income.
The 101 delegates I mentioned earlier that maintain and process the transactions are paid a portion of these fees, this is the daily expenses. The left over amount is burned.

Whenever BTSX is burned, you now own a bigger % of the total. This is the dividend.
(This is the opposite of Bitcoin that charges you via inflation paid to miners. Whenever new Bitcoins are created (The opposite of burned) it means that you now have a smaller % of the total.)

(Burning the BTSX has the same effect as distributing those BTSX evenly to everybody based on their holding)

You will probably not be able to buy shares in listed companies like overstock for a while.

http://bitshares.org/overstock-to-cryptostock/

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As exciting as it would be to see Overstock or another company issue a crypto-stock in the next few months, I think it would do far more harm than good. Forging blindly ahead with issuance of a crypto-security before taking the time to make sure regulatory and business objectives are met could create confusion and distorted public perceptions, thus substantially delaying the day that crypto-securities are widely accepted among market participants. Careful evaluation of the various issues and risks from regulatory and business perspectives can help ensure that the amazing potential benefits of being able to issue shares on a crypto-ledger are realized.


But you can already trade BitAssets. If you go to the markets section you can go long or short BitUSD, which aims to track around the price of a USD.


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General Discussion / Re: How convenient for Ripple....
« on: August 26, 2014, 11:10:06 pm »
I don't know why everyone seems angry about this, to me, this just shows how ripple feels threatened by bitshares

Only 1/2 people seemed upset. I think the rest just found it funny/amusing :)

It's like Ripple got run-over by the BitShares train, but then went to a lot of effort to put themselves on the tracks in front of the train again  :)

(Edit: Just a bit of fun. BitShares is running it's own race as far as I'm concerned & may even end up working with Ripple for all I know for help with gateways etc. if there's mutual benefit.)


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General Discussion / Re: A Bitshares-x wallet for Zimbabwe
« on: August 26, 2014, 11:00:53 pm »
 +5% I've got no clue about the technicalities involved, but yes a super simple to use BitAsset specific wallet  has the seeds of a brilliant idea imo.

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General Discussion / Re: How do I register my account? [resolved]
« on: August 26, 2014, 10:44:56 pm »
I don't know maybe someone more technical can help.

I know there was a bug in the previous wallet, where the directory only went up to the letter B or something but the name was still registered.

Sorry about the hassle.

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General Discussion / Re: How do I register my account? [resolved]
« on: August 26, 2014, 10:24:34 pm »
Click on your account. If it is registered it should say something like

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Registration date: 26 August 2014

Does it have that? If it does you should be able to withdraw to it. If not maybe bter is a bit slow recognising new accounts or something. I had a similar problem the other day where bter said

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cancelled:BTSX account is not registered or memo is too long

It worked later though. If it says that maybe wait a bit and try again. (You can also send them a support ticket if you want.)

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General Discussion / Re: How do I register my account?
« on: August 26, 2014, 10:13:39 pm »
Can someone send me some funds so I can register my account: BTSX6u9bsrDNiFzZh9RSEuWHL3CZU6SJWokrzf3YEGK3SX3Foo7gCN

Thanks
sent

Thanks man, what is delegate?

Don't select delegate when you register your account.

(A delegate is a specialised role for people that want to maintain BitShares X in a decentralised way. The 101 delegates with the most BTSX approval are the ones that process the transactions for BitShares X etc.)

http://bitshares.org/delegated-proof-of-stake/

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General Discussion / Re: Can we talk a bit about the Delegate System?
« on: August 26, 2014, 08:08:06 pm »
I agree about not leaving on the exchange that's why I'm hoping to get this registration problem fixed, ASAP.

They need to develop a way for me to hold the funds off the exchange, even if I am registered or not. Even if I can't send it to a delegate just yet but I will at least have the my own set of keys and it won't be in the hands of anyone else.

I dislike the Chinese exchanges very much. Having BTSX show up on one or two more exchanges seems like it would help mitigate some of the problems I am having currently (for example I could shuttle the funds from one exchange to another, in case of an emergency).

While I wait on getting the registration problem fixed, I still have a lot of research to do for my article. If anyone feels like taking a look at the questions I posted above and feels like taking a crack at them, I'd greatly appreciate it.

Yes normally the way it works is you choose an account name, someone just sends you 1 BTSX, you then register that account name and you can then withdraw from the exchanges to that account name in your wallet (Which you control.)

The entire process can take under 10 minutes. 

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