Now that everybody seems to think that PTS will drop sharply in value on midnight 28/2 the illiquidity of AGS seems to become secondary.
I expect PTS donations to reach 10-12 k a day quite soon and then level off until the night of nights

哈哈哈 那个比喻太逗了。

现在已经17号勒，收到的PTS只有16万，28号达到100万是不太可能吧

Quote from: heyD on February 17, 2014, 10:49:51 am

楼主能分享一下你怎么算出会跌到2块左右的？ 把你两个帖子放一起就显得很奇怪，因为如果你真的这么认为，为什么不把你每天挖的70个抛掉，等降到2块再买进来，直接就35倍啊！何必等它上0.025呢？

不是，你没看懂。
楼主明显是希望228之前涨到0.025btc，他出掉一批，剩下一批获赠bts。
然后228之后，pts骤降到2块左右，他先前卖出得钱就可以大举买进pts。
嗯。好多的人和你你同一个梦想。但是想做和能做到是两回事。

虽然NXT的发行机制遭人诟病，但是作为PTS的竞争对手来说，他的优点在什么地方，

更主要是的币都在钱包里等兑换，交易所根本没货，

Adam,
    We wanted to mitigate the confusion so it will be very simple.  BitShares XT will be a single chain and everyone interested in that chain is no longer concerned with AGS or PTS after the 28th.   

    We are unlikely to produce these other variants (interest, variable interest, consensus) in 2014 because it would confuse the market which will require time to learn about the mechanics of BitShares X in the simplified form.   When we do decide to launch an enhanced version of BitShares X with some of these other features it will honor BitShares XT rather than PTS and AGS under the grandfather clause in the original PTS social consensus.   This is designed to protect everyones investment in BitShares X and eliminate the potential that our future upgrades will harm their initial investment.

    So if it were up to us there would only be a single chain that users need to worry about for the next year. 

    We will be preparing information on some of our other DACs in the weeks ahead.  But for now we are focused on BitShares XT and executing on this simple version before rushing to add features and additional compleixity.

终于搞清楚了

看来大虾补天没说错，我看的不够仔细，中了机关

228之后的pts价格会让大家大吃一惊~会比btc的过山车做的还刺激~

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current price is 1000usd/bts

here is the buy order:
buy 1000 usd with 1bts
buy 1001 usd with  1bts
buy 1002 usd with 1bts
.....
buy 1100 usd with 1bts

anytime I can give a buy order with
buy 1000000000 usd with 1bts
And I can give a short with
short 10000000000 usd with 1bts

So there is a line of people each wanting to buy about 1000 usd for 1 bts ....
And along comes someone who wants to sell 1000,0000 usd for 1 bts....

Assuming he actually had this usd (ie it was a long/long sale) then the market should match him against all of the buys (4103 usd), give the seller his .0001 bts and earn 3.999 bts in fees for the network because the seller was an idiot and sold way below market.   

Now in the event of a short position the result of this move should be...

Buyers get 4103 usd and the short seller ends up short -4103 with collateral of 4 bts (from buyers) + .0001 bts (from himself) which would seem to justify a margin call immediately... thus  I need to adjust the short-sell code to always use the price of the bids to determine required collateral (bts) or this kind of abuse could carry on.

Let me look into it a tad more and if it pans out I will send 25 PTS your way for finding this.

同意，我已经在更新贴里建议销毁无抵押品比特资产了

Quote from: logxing on February 16, 2014, 05:35:54 pm

Quote from: alt on February 16, 2014, 03:43:55 pm

在系统刚运行，市场上没任何买单时，还是会有漏洞。
比如我自己做了唯一的买单是 1bts  1亿美金，唯一的 short 也是这个价。那我就是牺牲2个bts，拿到1亿美金。
程序可以限制 short 撮合算法必须在足够买单之后才能启动。

即使看起来有足够的市场深度，也可能被大户扫光后做同样的操作。

现在我看系统中就不应该有无抵押品的BTA存在，一旦BTS贬值过快导致平仓时抵押品不够，
应该以某种方式销毁那些无抵押品的BTA。持有BTA的人应该对此情形承担一定的“损失”，
与“爆仓”相反，持有BTA的人此时应该“吐利”以维护系统平衡。