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General Discussion / Re: Code Academy Learning Path?
« on: June 13, 2016, 03:50:39 pm »
How is everyone doing in this?  Would like to hear if people are continuing or have hit any road blocks.

I'm almost finished with the "Beginning Javascript" text book I bought a few months ago.  I've also been trying to learn AngularJS in parallel.  So far I have created a trading simulator for forex to analyze expected return vs risk.  Also created a basic betting app that I can hopefully utilize the DEX with at some point.  Yet to do anything with bitshares, but hopefully soon.

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Technical Support / Re: depressing...
« on: June 08, 2016, 07:25:16 pm »
Sorry to see this OP.  I guess my subtle hints were too subtle...


Ahh, the old "trough of sorrow"...brings back memories.

...painful, painful memories...

Curious to see if a "product/market fit" will truly be found.

...or if BitShares will forever be lost in the "Chasm of Startup Doom"...



 :-X... :P
bitshares is more amazing even comparing with ethereum...... A lot of people know this.......I you alredy see a good number of newcomers....take a look at other project n you see bitshares is growing even in this downtrend......this is positive......people talking about it is increasing too...... People are realizing that there is too much fud to shake weak heands.....but of course it didnt work people are not naive anymore everybody want a good deal, n that is fair.....even if bitshares goes to zero more people will come.....soon will start climb n it will be so fast, so strong, I believe we will top alt marketcap when we this train gain some traction n start to show his power....

You sound like Stan from 2 years ago and 50 million dollar market cap higher...

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General Discussion / Re: The Moonstone Wallet early alpha testing
« on: June 08, 2016, 06:48:35 pm »
Dear Bitshares community,

We are writing this on a happy note, because we have made strides in the development of Moonstone. There have been many challenges along the way, but we believe everything worth doing is worth doing well.
Currently we are in alpha, and have given some Bitshares Forum users access to Moonstone. They are currently testing and providing invaluable feedback, for which we are very grateful.
Once we get sufficient feedback from our early alpha testers we intend to open up to a broader audience. Therefore, the more the early testers help us the faster we can get Moonstone to the general community.
We believe that Blockchain communities are among the most progressive and friendly ones in the technology space. We are extremely grateful to have the chance to work with all of you on the future of the Internet!

With love,
Your Bitsapphire team.

Holy Shit... I thought bitsaphire was gone for good.  Maybe there is a chance my moonfunds will be worth something after all.

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Technical Support / Re: depressing...
« on: June 08, 2016, 04:46:37 pm »
Just because the bitshares network gets popular and is useful... doesn't mean the bitshares token will get any more valuable.

Holding the token doesn't do anything except give you voting rights.  Plus the network is operating at a huge loss right now because of witness pay and worker proposals.  Until fee's are brought back into the fold and the network becomes profitable, there's not really a point to holding the token.  In fact many of the projects using the BTS exchange for their UIA's accept funding outside of the DEX and distribute their token after they receive actual bitcoin or cash... this means there is literally no reason to buy bts to enter the ecosystem.

Once the merger is over, the downward pressure on price will be much less.

If BTS backed SmartCoins grow in popularity as a product they will create net BTS demand for many years to come and as a result increase the value of BTS. As the product matures, the SmartCoin market can then be monetized via trading fees.   

However the primary business model for BTS continues to be SmartCoins imo but they do require BTS to introduce liquidity subsidies and continue to make the DEX as user friendly as possible. (I'm also in favour of Yield subsidies for the period of time SmartCoin growth outpaces it.)

If demand for Smartcoins (Backed by BTS) grow over time then demand for BTS will grow with it until such time as the SmartCoin market reaches maturity. (Possibly many years in the future.) At that stage you would monetize your customer base through transaction fees in order to generate a return for shareholders like a more a traditional business. (As well as sell them other related products and services on BTS.)



Another business model on BTS is also a pure DEX model with trading fees for a range of user issued assets. While less lucrative imo, with CEX's like Coinbase valued at >$500 million there's also some potential there by growing that market to become the leading DEX & monetizing that customer base.

(We also don't need to add trading fees for the DEX model immediately either, user numbers increasing will increase the value of BTS because the market will price in their future monetization value provided they believe it's credible we can charge and still retain them in the future.)

I don't believe that an increase in demand for smart coins will ultimately lead to an increase demand and price for the BTS token...

Aside from the lack of acceptance and fungibility of smart coins the key problem is that there is no reason to create coins.

The only reason to create smart coins is if you think that the value of BTS will increase relative to the value of the smart coin.  Since the network (workers and witness's) are currently being paid in inflating BTS there is constant negative pressure on the BTS price.  If I'm a rational investor, there is no way I'm going to short with a naturally depreciating asset as collateral.  The only reason I would consider using BTS as collateral would be if I could somehow discount getting future profits from the BTS token.  The network needs to figure out a way to make money to sustain itself...  if it does, then the BTS token will rise significantly in value.  Just having an active network does not mean it's profitable or valuable.

Basically the bitshares holders are paying all the transaction costs for UIA and smart coin traders.  It's the strategy now to attempt to gain users, but it will need to change in order for the network to survive. 

Personally I think focusing on a few smart coin markets to add ample liquidity and then adding higher trading fee's to those markets.  Promote those markets to forex traders (I am a forex trader).  Forex traders would have no problem paying say a 5 or 10 cent transaction cost as long as there is liquidity and security.  This creates revenue for BTS, which will increase the value of the token, which will increase speculation that bts will rise vs smart coins, which will increase smart coin supply, which will increase liquidity, which will attract more traders, which will increase network revenue.... virtuous circle

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Technical Support / Re: depressing...
« on: June 08, 2016, 03:11:35 pm »
Just because the bitshares network gets popular and is useful... doesn't mean the bitshares token will get any more valuable.

Holding the token doesn't do anything except give you voting rights.  Plus the network is operating at a huge loss right now because of witness pay and worker proposals.  Until fee's are brought back into the fold and the network becomes profitable, there's not really a point to holding the token.  In fact many of the projects using the BTS exchange for their UIA's accept funding outside of the DEX and distribute their token after they receive actual bitcoin or cash... this means there is literally no reason to buy bts to enter the ecosystem.

Now consider a token like OPENPOS which can be bought on the DEX (or I'm sure off the DEX as well), which gives you rights to future profits from POS terminals and perhaps shares in a profitable company.  Those are real reasons to own a token.... unlike BTS.

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Technical Support / Re: BitShares UI is a disaster.
« on: June 07, 2016, 01:39:15 pm »
Low priority!!
You developers /  mathematicians have zero idea about importance of UI design.
Unaligned texts/ buttons are guaranteed disaster in terms of PR/Marketing!!
Now I know why this great platform is dying.

Sounds like the browser you are using is jacked up...  Everything looks aligned and fine on Chrome and Firefox

Post a marked up screen shot of what you are seeing.

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Muse/SoundDAC / Re: Community sentiment - cob screwed us?
« on: June 07, 2016, 04:01:31 am »
Project smelled fishy from the beginning... spending all their dough on "networking" night club parties.  But hey, at least you guys got to see them having a blast sucking down cocktails on your dime.

There are going to be a lot more projects that turn out like this as the bitshares network and the ability to issue uias for dead end projects is a con artists dream.  Almost impossible to hold scammers\criminals accountable.


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Finally, I just wanted to say to @jakub that re-branding isn’t an issue at the moment. It wasn’t a bad idea and it sparked a good discussion, but there is no need for anyone to be mean to each other or replying in cheeky ways just to take the piss out of people who have different opinions.

If you haven't noticed, I've been only harsh to people who deliberately wanted to derail this thread or undermine my credibility to raise the issue, or completely misunderstood my genuine intentions.
And if I've been cheeky it's only because I do care, as BitShares has been an important part of my life for the last 2.5 years.

In my view, the future of BitShares now hinges on the success of a couple of business initiatives (OpenLedger, OpenPOS, bitCash or SollywoodTV) but *even if* any of them succeeds, for me this is no valid substitute for true leadership and brand identity needed in this ecosystem.

In this respect I completely agree with those two posts recently published on steem:
https://steemit.com/bitshares/@ steem1/rebrand-bitshares-to-dex-before-its-too-late
https://steemit.com/bitshares/@ help-yourself/why-has-bitshares-failed

As I've realized that this community does not feel the necessity to move on, I need to move on.
It's been a great privilege to be here.

Good luck, thank you and good-bye.

PS. If anyone needs to contact me, @abit has all the details.

Jakub, I've had you set as my proxie but I don't get this quit, comeback, quit thing you are doing.  Is this because a few people did not agree we should re brand?

I think you do have some good ideas, but I don't understand this "take my ball and go home" attitude.  We are not going to get 100% of what we want 100% of the time... especially when it comes to bitshares

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The over riding theme here seems to be to try to generate some ideas on how we can make the bitshares token more valuable.

right now, as confirmed by Dan Larimer, the bitshares network could become very successful but the actual bitshares token could have a relatively low market cap.  This is already present by looking at the ever climbing daily order fills but a stagnant to declining market cap of bts.

If you wan't the bitshares token to increase in value, the only way I can see it increasing is by aquiring traders.  I've spouted on and on about this and how the Dex currently lacks many core features that a trader needs.

For a while now people have been trying to figure out why there is so little trading volume on the DEX.  I've traded forex and stocks for over 10 years and have written dozens of trading bots (Expert Advisors) in the mql language.  I've turned $2,500 into $50,000 in 6 months.  I've also turned $50,000 into $20,000 in 6 months as well. I think I have a pretty good idea of what traders need and expect from a platform.

1. Shorting in the DEX is cumbersome and confusing
I recently tried to short using the DEX.  I borrowed CNY and then sold that CNY for BTS.  I ended up getting margin called as BTS fell in price.  I'm ok with being wrong about a position, but I'm very confused with the mechanics of how this happened.  I also had no idea what my position was worth throughout the trade, and I'm not even entirely sure how much I lost.  Shorting needs to be streamlined and simplified.  The borrow/sell thing is too many steps and not knowing the positions value during the trade is borderline scary.

2.Is there a way to put a stop loss or take profit order?
Because right now I can't figure out how to do it.  This means there is no money management ability.  Without the ability to manage a trade, the DEX is unusable for serious traders.  There needs to be at a minim stop loss orders.  There really should be a way to put trailing stops in as well.

3.Indicators are shaky at best
Right now there are 4 indicators and 2 of them are moving averages.  The RSI doesn't appear to be working as the only reading I see on the more liquid markets are 100, 50, or 0.  It looks like an EKG witch tells me something isn't working correctly.  Not all traders use indicators, but many do.

These are just basic GUI things that are preventing traders from using the DEX.  It doesn't even include the inability to use leverage.  Just fixing the 3 things above will bring much more utility and liquidity to the dex.  I will guarantee it.  The people that originally designed the DEX were not traders.  They thought poloniex was a good interface to base their platform on.  Unfortunately, poloniex is not a good platform.  A professional trader would never use Poloniex.  Poloniex's platform is modeled off some cheap retail trading platform.

How do we fix this??
Right now we are consumed by petty fee debates and if we should keep calling ourselves DPOS.  These things are not that important right now.  It's not what will drive mainstream traders to the BTS platform.  What is needed is A PLUGIN FOR METATRADER 4.  While it isn't the most sophisticated trading platform, it's the most widely used and known.  It's also light years ahead of the current DEX.  What I propose is that instead of @dannotestein and blocktrades using a worker proposal to fix basic blockchain bugs, rather is work on creating a plugin for MT4.  They are already an exchange and have a good understanding of BTS.  I know it's not as easy as fixing "bad coding techniques", but getting this plugin for BTS would do more to improve the market cap and utility than anything else.

You can find more of that discussion here: https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,21343.msg277468.html#msg277468

The reason to make traders the key demographic is because they will be willing to pay small to medium fee's for reliability and safety.  This will allow us to reintroduce fee's for trading in the more liquid markets.  These liquid markets can be where liquidity providers focus their efforts.  Fee's will increase the value of the token.

The next step after improving the GUI and adding some liquidity providers will be to create margin trading.  Hopefully we are successful at building the right trading platform and attract traders who then attract 3rd party marging trading providers... that would be the optimal solution.

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While I think bitshares best current and near future selling point is "The Dex", fact is Bitshares can be so much more than just a dex.  It may seem like the right move now to rename, but it would be pigeon holing bitshares when it starts to expand it's feature set.

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Chris, me, Rodrigo, JP and Martin at yesterday's investor conference here in Munich..
edit: (Leopold was holding the camera)

Awesome! What was the investor conference about exactly? What was the audience? Did you guys make a pitch for Bitshares?

We are now going to secure some more funds for marketing Bitshares, BlockPOS, Stealth, Graphene-IPFS, ECHO and a slew of other projects we are doing. I think 8 different VC firms showed up yesterday from around the world.
 
The BitShares Munich team is growing fast, lots of amazing talent with us now. They will take a stake in our private projects just like OPENPOS holders get, but it is worth it to me since we are now ready to unleash a few of our products to the public. We need to push the marketing HARD now and dominate the crypto space. Everyone will know about Graphene soon.
 
If you haven't started a Meetup group in your local town yet, NOW is the time!!!
https://secure.meetup.com/create/

Sounds like things are going well and moving fast Ken.

Couple questions I have, who are "they" that will be taking a stake in your private projects?  Are the VC's or new team members?  How will they be taking a stake, by investing in OPENPOS?  Are these private projects still part of the OPENPOS investment?

Thanx @lil_jay890
Originally, we were just going to build a wallet and integrate with Odoo, but I managed to build 4 products instead of 2. :)
 
I think with all of the products that we are launching, systems that we are integrating with, things that we are bolting on to Bitshares and so on that we need to raise substantial capital and actually go public. It only makes sense to give OPENPOS holders a bigger stake than we had originally planned because without you guys we never would have been able to create these first four products (BitShares Wallet, Smartcoins POS for Odoo, standalone POS (runs on any android device), and now the Smartcoins Wallet (native android). I don't want to just market to individual stores or chains, I want to market Bitshares and our products to the world now. We're ready. Bitshares is ready.
 
So, the VC's we have been talking to (at least 60% of them so far, various meetings over the last month) are absolutely stoked about what we have built, are currently building and our vision for future products and BlockPOS integrations. They would not have come all the way here to Munich to see us unless they saw value.
 
Right now, it's just Chris (CEO), Rodrigo (CMO) and I. We must keep our overhead as low as possible. We need to raise about $25K to last us for the next 3 months until the paperwork goes thru and we get the first deposit, so if you guys can donate more to the OPENPOS token that would be MUCH appreciated (as you can see, our bitshares-munich account is just about empty now). We still have to order a couple more tablets and counter mounts (these things are $300 each), plus have a couple professional videos produced, design and print localized marketing materials and ads, legal work, get ready for two huge upcoming trade fairs (need booth equipment, handouts, ads, promotional items, etc) and pay my Devs for a few more features that I want added to the BlockPOS systems and the new Smartcoins Wallet before I give them to the public. The VC's have also told us that their marketing departments will push this hard too. They know the decision-makers at Billion dollar retail, vending, gas and grocery chains so this launch is massive, we just need to survive the next couple months until we get the first deposit from them.
 
The VC's want a chunk of ECHO Industries UG (our German company). One of the VC's might even be able to get us traded on the London Stock Exchange.
 
I think OPENPOS holders are ultimately going to get a stake in our company too, but we need to get legal on that (as we can afford it) so that the tokens can be tied to the regular company shares in some way. I am not the finance guy, @Chris4210 handles all of that, but leave him alone for now please, he is swamped with spreadsheets and meetings and until we know more, this is about all I can share right now as I don't know how it will be handed out yet either.
 
So, if that doesn't get you fired up about the OPENPOS token I don't know what will. PLEASE contact @Chris4210 if you'd like OPENPOS as well, this is your last chance.

Thank you for the summation Ken.  Some sort of prospectus that we could hand out and point investors to would be very helpful.  This would take a lot of the initial unkowns out of the equation.

I'm a large holder in OPENPOS and from what I can tell we will be getting 50% of all fee's from the POS terminals.  I'm assuming Echo will be keeping the other 50%.  Getting a stake in the company is definitely an added incentive to accumulate OPENPOS.  Referring to OPENPOS as "donations" though is going to be a turn off for many people.  I know there is probably some legal reason for this, but it puts doubt in the back of an investors mind that Echo has an easy out to stop all buybacks of OPENPOS and keep 100% for themselves.  I'm not saying you guys would do that, but bitshares holders have been bitten by this several times before.

All in all the project seems to be going good, and some enhanced clarity of and some more promotion should see the OPENPOS token grow

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Chris, me, Rodrigo, JP and Martin at yesterday's investor conference here in Munich..
edit: (Leopold was holding the camera)

Awesome! What was the investor conference about exactly? What was the audience? Did you guys make a pitch for Bitshares?

We are now going to secure some more funds for marketing Bitshares, BlockPOS, Stealth, Graphene-IPFS, ECHO and a slew of other projects we are doing. I think 8 different VC firms showed up yesterday from around the world.
 
The BitShares Munich team is growing fast, lots of amazing talent with us now. They will take a stake in our private projects just like OPENPOS holders get, but it is worth it to me since we are now ready to unleash a few of our products to the public. We need to push the marketing HARD now and dominate the crypto space. Everyone will know about Graphene soon.
 
If you haven't started a Meetup group in your local town yet, NOW is the time!!!
https://secure.meetup.com/create/

Sounds like things are going well and moving fast Ken.

Couple questions I have, who are "they" that will be taking a stake in your private projects?  Are the VC's or new team members?  How will they be taking a stake, by investing in OPENPOS?  Are these private projects still part of the OPENPOS investment?

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Muse/SoundDAC / Re: Early 2nd quarter 2016 update
« on: June 02, 2016, 02:40:48 pm »
They are taking a page out of Stan's book... I'm sure they will have no problem launching in May as long as they don't specify which year they plan to launch...

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There is a way you can support this and share in the profits generated...

Buy the OPENPOS token on the dex

Bingo, this will help us fund further development and marketing by @Chris4210 and @Rodrigo10
Just PM Chris if you can place a larger order and he can cut you a deal I'm sure.
 
OPENPOS holders get to share in the rewards from the transactions at the POS systems, so in my opinion if you're not looking at it you will be missing out on the opp of a lifetime, seriously, this is huge guys. The meetings that we have had with major players over the last couple weeks is going to kick our development into overdrive and you will be able to finally see what I am really capable of.

I think the reason the price of OPENPOS is low is because there hasn't been any buybacks yet since the software is just finishing up.  Once the first couple buy backs start, that should inspire more confidence from investors.  If what Ken is saying goes through, I'm guessing many of us will be very happy with our investment.

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General Discussion / Re: Bitshares price discussion
« on: June 01, 2016, 11:33:37 am »
Price is not going anywhere without real world adoption.  We should be supporting projects such as this with a worker proposal https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,22576.0.html

Thank you Brekyrself :)
BitShares Munich is just starting to do marketing (chris and rodrigo) now that we have four Proof Of Concepts complete (and even more features being added). If we can get some big funding then we can bring more liquidity bots online (like we are doing with LiqBot), get BlockPOS integrated with 10-15 more POS systems and market the hell out of this. We have solved every problem that BTC couldn't solve.
 
@everyone - Why is the OPENPOS price so low? Please have more faith in me and my team!

I think OPENPOS price is low because the lack of promotion.

With each update pods you do ken, remind people that by buying the OPENPOS token, they are supporting development and sharing in the profits generated by the pos systems.

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