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There is a way you can support this and share in the profits generated...

Buy the OPENPOS token on the dex

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General Discussion / Re: IS BTS dead?
« on: May 28, 2016, 02:05:19 pm »
From the mumble today according to Dan:

Bitshare's network won't die... but it's hard to find justification for the bitshares token to have a higher market cap, even if the network does continue to grow.

Congrats bitshares holders, please tell me how bullish this is!

If bitassets were actually used, wouldn't the BTS market cap necessarily have to be higher? The collateral has to be more valuable.

Problem is finding a reason to create assets other than pure speculation that bts will rise vs the dollar...

In my opinion, the Best reason to own bitusd and bitcny was the yield it paid in btsx. Now it's hard to justify getting into a position as the costs are high and the liquidity is low.  Just getting into bitshares from fiat is laden with fees.

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General Discussion / Re: IS BTS dead?
« on: May 27, 2016, 06:22:54 pm »
I will leave this here....

Quote


Full article here... https://steemit.com/steem/@gavvet/understand-steem-the-crypto-currency-and-dont-get-burned

Wrong...

What is happening with bitshares is not a "dump and pump".  The price has been at or near the all time low for months.... Any whale who wanted to accumulate a position has had ample time to do that without conspiring to manipulate the price.

We were all just told by the creator of bitshares that he doesn't see a reason for the bitshares token to have significant value... unless of course he is attempting  the "dump and pump" of which wouldn't make any sense since he has been dumping at or near the lows for months.

There is no conspiracy to supress bitshares price... That's just an excuse for being wrong on an investment and not taking responsibility.

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General Discussion / Re: IS BTS dead?
« on: May 27, 2016, 02:32:12 pm »
From the mumble today according to Dan:

Bitshare's network won't die... but it's hard to find justification for the bitshares token to have a higher market cap, even if the network does continue to grow.

Congrats bitshares holders, please tell me how bullish this is!

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General Discussion / Re: IS BTS dead?
« on: May 26, 2016, 09:17:31 pm »
Can someone please tell me what it's like to live in Delusional Land?  Where all BTS news is bullish... and BTS is always by default the most "underrated and advanced crypto".

Is delusional land a place where picking shitty investments is actually a good thing?  Where losing your money faster than anyone else increases your societal standing?  Where bag holding is a national past time?

BTS is a shit investment and has been for the last 2 years.  It's been a shit investment and looking at it any other way is just insane.  No the prices aren't insanely low... if they were insanely low, they wouldn't be sitting at this level for months.  It's a cool platform and interesting product, but that doesn't mean it's a good investment, as proven to you by the constant selling of BTS insiders and founders.

"Losers average Losers"- Paul Tudor Jones (basically means loser investors average down on their bad investments...which most people here are).  Go ahead, keep bringing down your "cost average" and getting excited over every pump to lower highs... millions of bankrupt investors have done the same thing.

Once again, it's a cool platform but that doesn't mean it's a good investment.

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Meta / Re: The future of the forum?
« on: May 26, 2016, 06:05:38 pm »
Chronos will produce some videos and I am planning to start an additional beginners guide for BitShares too. Currently, I am working on updating the main BitShares.org site plus collecting material for a BitShares Wikipedia page. Ken told me that there were a group of people working on that for Bitshares 1.0 but got run over by the fast development of BitShares 2.0 . I would like to pick up here and provide more info for BitShares itself in the next weeks.

The Forum is a important part of the community and has tons of value for beginners and experts.

Im new here but dex is pretty much intuitive for guys that already use exchanges. Understanding bitshares will require take goooooood time reading the docs  it is a must. I took a look at videos from 2014, but you cant really understand it in full without docs n some reasearch in forum n google, for me that is the way it is....complex, but addicted, is good to take time to understamd it, it is like a book

bitshares 2014 is much different from bitshares today... I wouldn't waste your time watching the old videos with Max Wright.

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General Discussion / Re: IS BTS dead?
« on: May 26, 2016, 05:59:00 pm »
Man i bought my stash at 825 so Im a little bit down right now but Im not that much worried I cannot anybody wanting to sell at those price for much longer.

"I cant believe people are selling at these prices!" has been said for the last 2 years and since the market cap was over $40mil... So far the sellers, of which the big ones were bts founders, have been on the right side of the trade.

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General Discussion / Re: Bitshares price discussion
« on: May 23, 2016, 03:50:30 pm »
I'm guessing the most recent dump is from boshen sending 6.8 million bts to poloniex...

Pretty big name in bitshares and most likely causing some shareholder anxiety with this move.

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Ok thanks for your feedback. Good luck!! Let us know if you need more help from the community.

We need people spreading the word for us!  We can't tell anyone how awesome we think the project is without looking self-inflating and self absorbed, so it really has to be the community who talks up the project.  If you want to see the project succeed, let people know how much you think this project can change things.  You hear people talk about how much money DAO will make, or whatever, but Bitland is about making legitimate change and progress.  If you know people who are into change and progress, talk to them about Bitland.  While there is great potential for economic growth with Bitland, that is not the conversation we are trying to have. 

We just need support!

Cheers!


Chris

If you want community support, a share drop would go a long way even if it is only 5%.  Peer Plays is doing this.

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All you naysayers are just pissing in the wind, while the others are building better ships.

It's been the same way for a long time now, a handful of visionary giants being dogged by a gaggle of myopic treasure hunters who should have never left shore, but simply invested in Apple stock and sucked down more diet coke while watching the 10 o'clock news and imagining themselves to be masters of their own destiny.

Ranting here about how you were victimized while backing a project on the bleeding edge of human imagination is just pathetic.

Some people build ships that cross oceans with their bare hands... and some passengers take masochistic delight in lamenting how their ship hasn't yet arrived in the promised land and that the ocean is vast and filled with terrifying mysteries, but the blame is never with them, always with some other hand controlling their fate, the captain, pirates, or the ocean itself.

Once upon a time the whole lot of you would be keel-hauled.  Nowadays you have the luxury of stinking up the decks with your own vomit.  Let's see where that gets you.

Please give us some reasons on how you believe the larimers didn't take advantage of their investors...

So far I have not seen anything thst shows they are even remotely shareholder friendly.  Some of the things they have done are borderline fraudulent.

The best companies treat there shareholders well while also continuing to innovate.  You need one to have the other. Constantly shifting projects and discarding former investors just continues to damage their credibility.  Without fair treatment investors, people don't invest anymore and you lose your development funds.

I've seen the post that says we are acting entitled and we should shut up and quit whining.  The fact is we are entitled. We are entitled to transparency and honesty from the sellers and leaders of our investment. That's all people really want. The way cnx does business is so opaque, but it wasn't always like that until sometime around the merger.  They changed the way they communicated and that's where the problems began.

I could probably count the remaining larimers supporters on 2 hands.  There use to be thousands who steadfastly supported everything he did.  If that doesn't show you something went wrong along the way, then you have drunken way too much of the Kool Aid

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Here is a question for the trolls, is there any scenario in which bitshares does not go to the moon without someone being labeled a criminal/scammer???

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No one is talking about bitshares being a scam here... we are talking (as the title of the thread says) about how the Larimers are no longer working on bitshares.  They have jumped to a new project in hopes that they can sell more investments.  Bitshares is beyond their control, so there is no longer any use for them to stay.

In my opinion I think CNX thought they could use the bts worker proposal system as a cash cow... but it backfired on them.
Imagine that, trying to profit of something you create. Shame on them.

If their only motivation was to scam, why give control to community? They gambled, rightfully that their vision of BTS was the best. The users  disagreed. Now they are considered criminals because they are applying the lessons learned elsewhere?

If cheating people out of money was their goal, I could think of a thousand easier ways considering as you say, "crypto investors are stupid"

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You and Crispy are the ideal investors for the Larimers...

You will buy whatever they sell, AGS/PTS/DNS/BTSX/BTS/BTS2.0/Brownies/Steem, and defend their sale pitch to the death.  They crushed the shareholders in all but one of those investments, but don't worry I'm sure steem will follow in all it's predecessors footsteps.

Their is no point in arguing with fans like you guys, since you will cling to the hope that Dan is Steve Jobs until either your broke or he disappears.

Here's the pattern: 
-They create a coin that they heavily control
-Pump the shit out of it by making outlandish promises and creating FOMO (Top Secret Business's, soon to happen marketing campaigns, cool new features like Bond, Stealth and Liquidity Markets!,  whole countries using bitshares to vote, 10% sharedrop on all new blockchains based off the toolbox, Summer announcements and Winter Storm Warnings, Pump posts, and the outright saying that BTS will be worth just as much as ethereum in a few months)
-None of the above comes true... And I mean none of it.  No proposals and the promise of 10% sharedrop is debunked.
-Meanwhile they are unloading their shares on You and Crispy.
-Majority of the community figures this out and starts dumping as well, realizing they were screwed.
-They create a new coin and repeat the whole thing over again, promising that this investment is the one that will make you rich.

This isn't trolling, it's reciting of what has ACTUALLY happened.  They have literally done this with 8 different investments

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Here is a question for the trolls, is there any scenario in which bitshares does not go to the moon without someone being labeled a criminal/scammer???

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No one is talking about bitshares being a scam here... we are talking (as the title of the thread says) about how the Larimers are no longer working on bitshares.  They have jumped to a new project in hopes that they can sell more investments.  Bitshares is beyond their control, so there is no longer any use for them to stay.

In my opinion I think CNX thought they could use the bts worker proposal system as a cash cow... but it backfired on them.

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And most importantly...they already have (as one of the first orders of business) the bots to auto vote up or down posts by accounts they like/dislike...one of the parameters is even to do such burial in 0 seconds after a post. It is a no brainer that such automation on account and not posts voting, is so simple and easy to 'improve' to next include new accounts to be destroyed for simply voting 'for' a post by an account on the blacklist of the vote-masters...  Now each poster not only should not express a different opinion, but should restrain from even voting for something that the masters might not like, for the fear of being auto-blacklisted.
censorship automation nice steaming touch to the already existing total control  monopoly...
Why did you know so much, Tony? When you started to hate sth, you look into it to find more reasons to amplify the hate? Why not save some time & just ignore it?

Trolls can't ignore, they have to feed on something or else wither and die.

What I find hilarious is whenever we bring up actual real issues about the larimers and their massive screwing  and probably illegal actions against their shareholders (of various instruments), we get labeled as trolls.  No rebuttals, just dumb ass one liners and pictures of caves and bridges.

Please someone tell me how the larimers have not screwed their shareholders in every investment vehicle they have ever sold.  You may think your on the rocketship with steem, but why would you think it would end up any different from any other investment they sold to you?

Why not hold then accountable for at least one project instead of following them blindly until you're bankrupt?
This is all experimental high risk stuff. What I find amazing is how people complain about all rules and regulations of the fiat world and then the minute something doesn't go the way they expect, they want to drag all that stuff to crypto. If you want rules and regulations, why he'll are you messing with crypto??? Stay in the fiat world where it's "safe".

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That's your response? Because in crypto it's OK to screw your shareholders because it is " high risk " investing?

If this is the prevailing rational, no wonder there are so many crypto scams.  The same people can rip you off not just once but multiple times and you just keep on buying new investments from the same people... Never holding them accountable, just praying they find the holy grail (they did find the holy grail, sucker's with money).

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And most importantly...they already have (as one of the first orders of business) the bots to auto vote up or down posts by accounts they like/dislike...one of the parameters is even to do such burial in 0 seconds after a post. It is a no brainer that such automation on account and not posts voting, is so simple and easy to 'improve' to next include new accounts to be destroyed for simply voting 'for' a post by an account on the blacklist of the vote-masters...  Now each poster not only should not express a different opinion, but should restrain from even voting for something that the masters might not like, for the fear of being auto-blacklisted.
censorship automation nice steaming touch to the already existing total control  monopoly...
Why did you know so much, Tony? When you started to hate sth, you look into it to find more reasons to amplify the hate? Why not save some time & just ignore it?

Trolls can't ignore, they have to feed on something or else wither and die.

What I find hilarious is whenever we bring up actual real issues about the larimers and their massive screwing  and probably illegal actions against their shareholders (of various instruments), we get labeled as trolls.  No rebuttals, just dumb ass one liners and pictures of caves and bridges.

Please someone tell me how the larimers have not screwed their shareholders in every investment vehicle they have ever sold.  You may think your on the rocketship with steem, but why would you think it would end up any different from any other investment they sold to you?

Why not hold then accountable for at least one project instead of following them blindly until you're bankrupt?

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People fiercely attack anyone who says anything that goes against their financial bias.
Fixed that for you. Welcome to planet Earth.

ty

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