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General Discussion / Re: poll for bitUSD parameter optimization
« on: August 02, 2016, 03:10:44 pm »
IMHO we should postpone this for quite a bit ..
The CNY modifications are only active for a few weeks and I don't feel the need to modify bitUSD just now.
I'd like to see CNY become more prominent across the whole crypto space .. Only after that happend and people won't use bitUSD because of the 1% difference in settlement, then I think we can start discussing this again.

I don't think we need to wait for more time.
we are cautious enough, but effectiveness is also important,  some competitors such as MAKER will come in not long future,  we need to make bitshares smartcoins as prominent as possible.
this is not a dangerous change, even in the worst condition we can easily restore the parameters to old values.
bitCNY and bitUSD can become prominent together, no need to make this process delay, even more, we need to consider to do the change to EUR, JPY, GBP, CAD...etc. in recent future.
we should respect the opinion from the community reflected in this poll.
 

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General Discussion / Re: poll for bitUSD parameter optimization
« on: August 02, 2016, 06:58:27 am »
issue for BSIP created: https://github.com/bitshares/bsips/issues/14, @xeroc could you please check and convert to BSIP?

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General Discussion / Re: poll for bitUSD parameter optimization
« on: July 30, 2016, 04:00:32 pm »
I object. I'm currently holding ~4,500 BitUSD. I would be directly damaged from this proposal.

I have already stated that I perceive the modification of an explicit guarantee as robbery.

I will consider legal action against any committee members who vote for such a proposal. I will also consider legal action against any shareholders who vote for such committee members.

interesting.

to avoid the "damage", you can force settle before the change apply.

or if you like, transwiser can pay you 4500 OPEN.USDT to buy the 4500 bitUSD.

I don't think you are guaranteed more.

in BSIP#16 there is an answer to this question that can be referenced: https://github.com/bitshares/bsips/blob/master/bsip-0016.md

Does this proposal break a promise?

Yes, but maybe not! There were promises made that bitassets can be settled at any time at the fair price (price feed). With this proposal, we ask for a percentage fee for the settlement service. This can be interpreted as breaking a promise while it could also be interpreted as a change in fee schedule: "Settlements are free for the first few months, after that they are 1%".

most of the community now understand the necessity and importance of this change, someone even propose to apply the change to all the smartcoins, why resist such a beneficial improvement just because of your little "benefit"?

I cannot imagine that this change can be stopped by your threat.



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personally I do not like this idea, business should be done by businessmen.
who need bitUSD? tell me, I'll sell to him with close to market price.

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General Discussion / Re: poll for bitUSD parameter optimization
« on: July 30, 2016, 03:51:47 am »
I support this. However, I think I would prefer to see this simply become the standard across the board for all community run bitassets instead of spinning up the same process on every single one.

It appears to be clear that the economics and incentives are better aligned and it doesn't make a different from one bitasset to another.

This should be considered across the board.

at least I think in future we can apply the change to other smartcoins in groups, not one by one.

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General Discussion / poll for bitUSD parameter optimization
« on: July 29, 2016, 03:21:21 pm »
smartcoin economy and current bitCNY status

smartcoin is not only stable currency, but also financial leverage tool.

shorters use this leverage tool to fulfill financial needs by borrowing smartcoins from system, for bitCNY, the 1% force settlement offset and 0.5% force settle volume limit greatly reduce the shorters' worry of being force settled, even their debt position are force settled, they always have big chance to buy back BTS from market without loss. in summary, this setting make the user experience of the leverage tool much better than before, that is why bitCNY supply doubled in 5 weeks. 

then is bitCNY devalued by 1%? things are not simple, now bitCNY express its value by trading, or by withdrawing to fiat CNY, in both ways it is not devalued, however in both ways transwiser play an important role. this lead to another question - does bitCNY's value depend on transwiser's service?

in my opinion in smartcoin economy gateways and market makers are must and play important role, they help exact pegging and provide liquidity, however, this is not to say that the smartcoins' value depend on their service, we can also say it's smartcoins' own value make the gateway and market making service possible.

force settlement should not be seen as a common value express, it is "last resort", I don't think we can expect merchants to accept smartcoins just because of the 100% force settlement, a gateway service is always needed for merchants to accept smartcoins.

bitCNY now has a supply of 1.57M, in my view the supply may reach 5M at the end of this year, frankly speaking, as a gateway transwiser now face bigger chanllenge than before, now most bitCNY finally come to transwiser as an exit but seldom people buy bitCNY from transwiser, to balance the liquidity flow, transwiser need to try to make bitCNY trading base for more markets in DEX, and also need to try to build something like CNY-USD exchange channel with the help of bitCNY,bitUSD/USDT.

bitUSD's current status and change proposal

generally speaking, bitUSD is now in low supply(about 115k), low trading volume and bad pegging(bitUSD always worth 5~10% higher than fiat USD)

I am not sure why things are like this, but in the past we do not have a good channel to do bitUSD/fiat USD conversion, now thanks to OpenLedger's work, we now have OPEN.USDT to play the role of bridging bitUSD and fiat USD, now any market maker can do more in bitUSD market to provide liquidity and help exact pegging, but at that stage the same problem that has puzzled bitCNY ecosystem will also appear here - how to encourage shorters to generate more bitUSD?

here I propose the same solution to bitUSD as had applied to bitCNY - change the force settlement offset to 1% and max hourly force settle volume to 0.5%, currently the two parameter values for bitUSD are 0% and 20%.

The force settlement offset can be seen as a service fee that holder pay to the settled shorter at the time of force settlement. The offset need to be a proper value that can balance the risk of holders and shorters. A 0 offset is not reasonable enough as in common financial logic the collateral should not be force settled without any compensation if the collateral price does not fall below the margin call price. On the other hand, if the offset is set too high, force settlement will be unfeasible as "last resort" for value express. another parameter -  the max hourly force settle volume -  should be low enough to prevent sudden settlement to force shorters out quickly. experience in bitCNY shows the 1% offset and 0.5% max hourly force settle volume are comparatively reasonable combination.

this poll is to collect opinions from community, next, similarly, BSIP and maybe also worker proposals will be created, and finally if there are enough support, a committee proposal will be created to implement the change.

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General Discussion / Re: What bitshares should learn from steem
« on: July 17, 2016, 07:38:53 am »
There is actually something bitshares could learn from steem. Steem doesn't give away STEEM tokens to content creators for posting their BS. Instead, they use STEEM as collateral to issue steem dollars, which they give away. This is actually smart approach, because such a giveaway does not cause a dilution. Bitshares could do the same, even better. Instead of paying workers BTS, committee could use the reserve as collateral to issue smart coins and pay a worker with smart coin of his/her choice. This would fill the market with different bitAssets. The only dilution would come from forced settlements. Right now the reserve is enough to issue over 2M bitUSD, and as the reserve gets filled with collected fees, more could be issued.
This could be a great idea, but it probably requires a good gateway to fiat for the bit assets being paid out. So it would probably work now for workers willing to be paid in bitCNY, but not in bitUSD.

They could be paid in any bitAssets of their choice. When they want to cash out, they would convert their bitAssets to OPEN.USD  or OPEN.BTC, or do it whatever way they prefer. Even if they dump their bitAssets for BTS, it would not dilute BTS.
That's true, active markets for the bitAssets could make it work.

there is always dilution when we pay worker from reserve pool, either using BTS or smartcoin.
however this is not a problem, we need to accept the dilution if it is really necessary.

the problem is how to design and manage the whole process.
if we want to collate the BTS in reserve pool to generate smartcoin, then how to prevent the position from being margin called? how to manage the position by selling some BTS while it is at higher price and reduce the debt? it is easy for an individual to do this for his own account,   but for a public account, a good process must be designed to ensure fairness and continuability.

and I don't think we need to enable worker to "select what bitasset as they like", that will bring more complex, we can select bitCNY or bitUSD as the paying currency, and currently seems bitCNY is a little more appropriate because of the liquidity and pegging exactness.

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General Discussion / transwiser's marketing making plan
« on: July 12, 2016, 09:46:54 am »
we already put a bot named trans.bot into running in DEX, hope it can increase more bitCNY liquidity in the market.

yunbi has off shelved the bitCNY/CNY pair in recent past however they just restore the trade pair, then we will also do market making for this pair and also the BTS/CNY pair in yunbi.
 
regarding bitUSD, I think OPEN.USDT and TRANS.USDT will come soon to connect bitUSD and the fiat USD, there after we will also do market making for bitUSD.

we will also put some more UIA on shelf and provide liquidity in the future, maybe the next one will be ANTSHARE, detail about it: https://www.antshares.com/ICO/Index

enjoy trading :)

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Hallo, again could you give us some feedback?

 Does this new settlement fee improve liquidity and interest in CNY?

@bitcrab

before this change the supply of bitCNY is less than 800K, now it is 1100K and keep on increasing...

going ahead,  bitCNY will be used as trade base in many markets.

Can you describe how the change has contributed to this?

We need more details to know this isn't just regular market movement.

in my view the logic is simple, because the change changed the expectation of the players, especially the shorters.

actually bitCNY can be used in many cases - to buy other assets in DEX, to deposit to btc38 just as fiat CNY, to just withdraw from transwiser - so there is always demand for BTS holders to short out bitCNY , but they always worry about being force settled, this worry prevent them from shorting.

now the 1% offset reduced the worry greatly and shorters have more incentive to short.

is it just regular market movement? I don't think so, in the weeks before and after the change, there's no other big change in BTS ecosystem that can make bitCNY supply increase at close to 50%, and we can see that bitUSD supply has no obvious change in  the same period.



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Hallo, again could you give us some feedback?

 Does this new settlement fee improve liquidity and interest in CNY?

@bitcrab

before this change the supply of bitCNY is less than 800K, now it is 1100K and keep on increasing...

going ahead,  bitCNY will be used as trade base in many markets.

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中文 (Chinese) / Re: TRANS.DAO在BTS内盘上线交易
« on: June 20, 2016, 08:34:04 am »
现在的情况,建议TRANS.DAO持有者尽量提现吧。
明晚去北京参加会议,可能有两三天无法处理提现。。。

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regarding sidechain, I feel  what you said is that we haven't found a secure solution for that, but not "we should not add".

sidechain will help a lot, assuming it is robust/secure enough,  it can make the inter chain value transfer more convenient. and then will be no need to have various kind of  BTCs and ETHs in DEX.

Ethereum now have the BTCrelay, we also need similar feature.

we do not have to set BTC and ETH also collateral, if it is not risk free.

maybe we haven't got an acceptable solution for this, but we need to find such a solution

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I always feel that the voting to witnesses is different with voting to committee+worker.

voting to witness is mostly a technique problem, need to check the behavior of each witness, is it stable? what's the block missing rate?
voting to witness is a key factor to the security of the network, it's a key concern while considering problems like sidechains.

however, voting to committee+worker is mainly relevant to the policy and directions of the network/community.

the participation of voting is low at the moment, however, at least it can make committee and worker work,  but for witness, the low participation voting rate is always a risk/shortage.

I always feel it will be better to be able to set proxy separately for witness, then I'll set a proxy for voting witness as I am not so familiar with the behavior of each withness, however, I want to vote committee+worker by myself and as a proxy.

and I think while we discuss economic incentive to voting, we should focus on witness voting to grasp the main problem and avoid complex.

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中文 (Chinese) / Re: ICOO,预见比特股的未来
« on: June 08, 2016, 02:42:25 am »
可以改e神叫蚁神了 :D,蚁神现在是ICOO的COO :D

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thanks Dan.

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