Quote from: bitcrab on February 21, 2020, 12:44:17 am

Quote from: binggo on February 21, 2020, 12:42:52 am

Quote from: bitcrab on February 21, 2020, 12:40:49 am

Quote from: binggo on February 20, 2020, 09:02:30 pm

巨蟹你自始至终都没懂.

等着我搞一篇从17年以来的历次变动总结，大家也好有个比较清晰的认识。

杠精你好，请继续自嗨。

如果你把思维永远停在别人是为了杠你，你能有多大提高？古人尚且三省吾身。

即便对杠精我也是尊重的，只要杠得有理，至于你么。。。
别废话了，想写就先写出来。

我怎么了，你还以为我是为了杠你？你自己翻帖子看看仔细咂摸咂摸，你身段太高了，不敢，实在不敢，你这么尊贵的身份怎么敢。

既然这样，那就算了，我也就没有必要再写些东西去打一些人的脸，至少不会在你的帖子里写，省得打得某些人脸疼，恼火的不行。

上来就说别人不懂，这是讨论问题的态度吗？你懂，那你吐出点象牙看看啊。
谁关心你是为了啥，爱啥啥。

巨蟹你自始至终都没懂.

等着我搞一篇从17年以来的历次变动总结，大家也好有个比较清晰的认识。

杠精你好，请继续自嗨。

Based on BAIP3, https://github.com/bitshares/baips/blob/master/baip-0003.md, now 4 poll worker proposals have been created:

1.14.249   Poll-BAIP3-Refer to MA24 in bitCNY price feeding

1.14.250   Poll-BAIP3-Still Refer to MA48 in bitCNY price feeding

1.14.251   Poll-BAIP3-Refer to MA24 in bitUSD price feeding

1.14.252   Poll-BAIP3-Still Refer to MA48 in bitUSD price feeding

Please vote according to your opinion.

in the last 3 days BTS experienced the first rapid downtrend after the implementation of BAIP2, and the case provide a chance to review what BAIP2 bring to us.

below is the BTS price hourly chart in the last 20 days, the red, blue, and green line represent MA48, MA24 and MA12.



as BAIP2 request witness to feed price with max(MA48, current market price), so always when BTS price is in uptrend, the real time market price is fed, when BTS price is in down trend, the MA48 price is fed.

many people complained that their debt positions are force settled at 1st, Feb to 2nd and they have no chance to buy back at the same price, in my view, this is relevant to the fact that BTS price went up to cross 0.22CNY.

now let's check more exactly on the time that BTS price is in rapid downtrend, as BAIP2 mainly change the feed price result at these moments.



in below the thick red line represent the feed price change at last 2 days. at 15th, 23:00 Beijing time the MA48 went above price line and met the price line again at 18th 00:00.

positive effect:
it make the feed price went down very slowly and smoothly, it give debt position owners big time and price buffer to take care their debt position, it avoid the feed price to arrive the lowest market price in this interval. all this make shorting attack almost impossible.

negative effect:
in the interval that MA48 is above the BTS price, there is always a big gap between MA48 and price line. at 17th 00:00 we can see MA48 = 0.0367, the lowest price = 0.0301, the former is 1.219 times the latter.

this brought a big devaluation to the smartcoin which have implemented BAIP2, in the interval we saw the highest GDEX.UST/bitCNY trading price has been reached 8.15 which means a close to 15% devaluation to bitCNY.

we have to continuously optimize the rule and do necessary balance to get the positive effect and avoid the negative effect.

in below chart, the thick blue line stands for the feed price if we adopt MA24 instead of MA48. the thick green line stands for the feed price if we adopt MA12 instead of MA48.

in the discussion in China community, most users agree that MA24 will be a better choice than MA48 in this scenario. for MA12, it is doubtful that it can provide enough buffer to resist shorting attack.

如果不追求锚定，那根本就没必要搞什么智能货币。

强清是需要的。

有些人在抨击喂价锁定，然而如果不锁定，也许抵押者早就爆得一塌糊涂了。

被强清也没有坏到极点，无息贷款，一直不还，抵押率还排在低端，还不让强清，咋啥好处都得给你占呢？

何况强清还有那么多限制，延时，限额，补偿，强清并非稳赚不赔的买卖。

USD那里就可以看到，大家在争被强清的机会，我几个账号已经抢着被强清完了。

现在这点问题是价格穿越0.22的时候出现的，价格稳定住以后会逐步消失。

现在可以考虑的有两个方面的措施。

一是bitCNY/USDT的做市，如果能把深度做起来，就可以帮助bitCNY锚定，也会极大缓解强清。这个已经在起作用

还有就是强清收费，其实我不觉得强清需要收1，2个点那么高的费用，收千一千二也差不多了。

就是不知道强清收费是在BSIP74实施时顺便加就可以了呢？还是需要另搞BSIP？@abit

这会带来另外一种风险，就是bitAssets脱锚的风险。

目前对强清已经做了很多限制，24小时delay，每小时强清量限制，强清补偿。

接下去可以对强清也收手续费。

bitAssets are just added in the market making contest, with pairs with BTC/USDT/ETH/EOS.

However, as bitCNY and bitUSD are still off peg, bitEUR become a good choice in the MM contest.

GDEX began to do MM for the bitEUR pairs with BTC, ETH and EOS.



Spring Capital began to do MM for bitEUR/GDEX.USDT.



We found the bitEUR/GDEX.USDT pair make big sense, it help the peg of bitEUR greatly, and it help to generate much trading chance, it play the role similar to the bitCNY OTC trading.

Currently there are too much bitEUR force settlement orders as shown below, because the BTS/bitEUR is not in good depth yet.



Hope more traders come into bitEUR trading!

GDEX根本无力支付这种费用。
挖矿获利的还是矿工，GDEX获得的手续费收入非常有限。