Quote from: dannotestein on March 29, 2016, 04:04:51 am

I have no idea who "for-gary" was voting for, but it's quite obvious that "garylarimer" wasn't voting for anyone, since it just claimed its funds 6 hours ago...
http://cryptofresh.com/u/garylarimer

well, I did not ask for it, but if they wish to explain the justification behind the 35 mil BTS sale from the  trust account ...I am listening!

what's there to talk about , it's tax season in the US   

you forgot to mention leaving a country . 

I don't see anything would change in the near future unless the large part of the codebase , namely the FC lib,  were to become a popular thingy .

Quote from: JonnyBitcoin on March 24, 2016, 09:16:00 pm

Quote from: Akado on March 24, 2016, 08:22:05 pm

I don't think it's about the money but about the attitude. While some members might not agree with this and its their right, you claimed "... and expect the community to pay me back for them in full."

It's about people not even be aware of this or not agreeing with this and then having you "demand" to be reimbursed. It feels unfair, hence the comment about a worker proposal of $10k to get the chinese app page. It gives the impression anyone can just do whatever they like and demand the community pays them back.

if theres a worker proposal everyone votes. I expect that people will reimburse me. I could be wrong.
just trying to be useful.

I know. I believe you have good intentions, but you also must see from other people's pov.

Imagine someone who doesn't agree with this decision and then comes to this thread and gets the idea you are demanding your money back. People will think "why should I pay him for something he did so spontaneously, without asking for my opinion? What if someone does the same with $50k?", etc.

Quote from: JonnyBitcoin on March 24, 2016, 09:16:00 pm

Quote from: Akado on March 24, 2016, 08:22:05 pm

I don't think it's about the money but about the attitude. While some members might not agree with this and its their right, you claimed "... and expect the community to pay me back for them in full."

It's about people not even be aware of this or not agreeing with this and then having you "demand" to be reimbursed. It feels unfair, hence the comment about a worker proposal of $10k to get the chinese app page. It gives the impression anyone can just do whatever they like and demand the community pays them back.

if theres a worker proposal everyone votes. I expect that people will reimburse me. I could be wrong.
just trying to be useful.

I know. I believe you have good intentions, but you also must see from other people's pov.

Imagine someone who doesn't agree with this decision and then comes to this thread and gets the idea you are demanding your money back. People will think "why should I pay him for something he did so spontaneously, without asking for my opinion? What if someone does the same with $50k?", etc.

The worst question could be :

What if someone register all of the bitshares accounts on major websites and then ask his friends to pretend to sell it at a high price and then he pretend to pay him on the background (they could provide bank records too ) , essentially forcing the community to buy back the account with whatever price he named ?

What's stopping important community channel holders to start charging this community thousands of dollars by dilution with this method ?

I'm not saying the OP is doing this . I'm saying what a bad incentive it could be for those who thinks BitShares has a budget to buy this kind of stuff without even bargaining a fair price  . (It's worse than registering a domain name , because you need cost to register someone elses' domain name ,)

Quote from: btswildpig on March 21, 2016, 05:43:54 am

Quote from: JonnyBitcoin on March 21, 2016, 01:47:54 am

Quote from: btswildpig on March 19, 2016, 05:39:38 pm

Who owns BitShares account name on Bitcointalk.org ?

That's maybe a really really important marketing asset for us . Prepare yourself for a couple thousand bucks ! We will have a worker to pay for the account name .

Who owns BitShares account name on Wechat Public platform (the most crowd social tool on earth) ? Prepare yourself for a couple thousand bucks ! We will have a worker to pay for the account name .

hell , next thing we know , people would start to register all kinds of BitShares name on every major social networking tool (even dating site!) and wait to be brought by this community .

Nice marketing .

Twitter and FB are the most important social media accounts, we should control them as big brands do.  Your sarcasm isn't helpful.
 I understand the power of twitter and FB well. One day of dilution isn't much to pay in the grand scheme of things. And the if we become big one day it will be even harder to get them then.

After reading you reply , I've realized the importance of this . So , following your lead , I've purchased the most important social media account about BitShares in China's Wechat platform .
So .....who should I contact to reimburse my 10000 USD for purchasing this important account ?

Why would we want a we chat account. they are for private messaging not for creating a public image and making announcements. I think fb and twitter will do.

Wechat is not just a messaging platform .

Wechat is Skype(messaging)+Facebook+Twitter+Instagram combined . We chat has something called "public platform" , it has drawn more traffic than major websites .

too late .
极乐净土币  is leading the show 

Quote from: btswildpig on March 19, 2016, 05:31:14 pm

Quote from: BunkerChain Labs on March 19, 2016, 02:13:46 pm

Quote from: btswildpig on March 19, 2016, 06:59:07 am

Next thing we know , people would start buying subway AD space on major city upfront and ask to be refunded by worker dilution , because people would by shy to vocal against it for all his contribution and the financial risk he was taken upfront .

That will be an amazing marketing change .

@tonyk   what do you say

 

The network owning it's own naming assets is really so terrible? This i fundamental to any business DAC or centralized.

On the other hand.. there are other ways to recover the funds, it just might take a lot more work and time potentially... if he used the refer program and got paid on the refers sent to the network, i would take roughly referring 33 lifetime members to recover the funds. Who knows, at that point maybe he will just continue with it because its a good investment.

There are a few ways to skin this cat, but the worker is clear, simple, and lets the voters decide how they want to manage the brand. Trolling commentaries with anything to do with Workers these days seems inevitable. It's tired, old, and has been shown to be a pointless irrational argument in comparison to every other virtual currency that is excelling in market cap with higher spending that for them is completely out of control. While we are in control.

@JonnyBitcoin initiative to take action and secure our brand for the community is great. You think all your scenarios are going to come to pass then you better get to it and start getting all those spaces. Sounds like a great investment!

It's funny .

 https://twitter.com/ethereumproject 
https://twitter.com/ethereum

If a Ethereum marketing is paying 3000 USD to buy a twitter account name , which one you think he would buy , and why ?

The exact same name is not the asset on twitter . The count of the follower is .
If one account has more follower than the others , regardless of what name it is , it will be enough to do marketing .

It is funny.

Care to share how much they are spending on all the other marketing and mining while you are at it? Lets compare apples to apples.

This is after all just more dilution boogieman rhetoric.

You don't know what I mean ?
I mean twitter marketing is not done by the exact same account name ， and as far as I know , that's not how twitter works .

For 2 years , with tons of budget , no one in I3 even dare to spend 3000 USD budget on a twitter account name because they too know that's not how it works .

And now you tell me with a exact same account name , bitshares can be marketed ?
That's the same thing as saying I3 didn't do any marketing at all .