Quote from: oco101 on December 08, 2014, 03:41:42 am

Another country where bitUSD could explode :  http://panampost.com/peter-sacco/2014/12/02/venezuelas-plummeting-bolivar-dips-into-hyperinflation/

We definitely need to translate everything in  Spanish. Clearly there is tremendous potential in Latin America for bitUSD.

I'm voting for matt608 for sure.

  There is so much potential in Latin America it's not even funny.

Quote from: ripplexiaoshan on December 08, 2014, 04:28:49 am

Quote from: geyu on December 08, 2014, 02:15:47 am

BTS和PTS现在哪个叫比特股 ？

一直以来都是BTS叫比特股，PTS叫原型股。

Sorry for the confusion. "比特股 PTS" was a direct English-to-Chinese translation of 'Bitshares PTS'. My Chinese is not good. It should be '原型股'.

Quote from: cn-members on December 07, 2014, 04:57:31 am

Quote from: Stan on December 07, 2014, 04:19:34 am

Quote from: BTSdac on December 07, 2014, 03:56:39 am

Quote from: alphaBar on December 06, 2014, 06:27:58 pm

The Chinese community has been integral to the success of PTS. We invite you to join us in growing the Bitshares ecosystem by building a strong, stable, and efficient PTS.

this project cannot delegate pts , because Miner pts always is existed in p2p network，no matter it die or live. but in many Chinese investor mind , pts had finished all task community give to，pts  was dead ，we accept this like all thing in our universe would die。but they have question:why pts is removed from exchange ,why pts is live again. removed from exchange is decided by exchange site, but it must acc. to information our community expressed .so I worry that our community would lose much honor in many Chinese mind. since price of pts was in period of low price after 11.05 .they think pts become non－ value and sold it at low price. make pts live again ,price was up. maybe I can understand it . but to normal investor without much information.in his mind just as :"pts was dead  they sold at low price。 after they sold pts is live price is up." we hurt them would hurt us finally.
so i am not interested with this project though I have some pts now. even I think name should not include PTS，this project should use other name.

Who did they sell to? 
Who lost and who gained in that trade? 
Was one side unfairly taking advantage of the other?
If so, which side?
All information was available to everyone.
We all watched the the thinking evolve in real time.
The community discussed it every step of the way.
And everyone made their own conclusions.

I think the most important issue here is to get the facts straighten up . The market need to hear a full story .

1、Do you , Stan ,  expect (honestly, not diplomatically ) there will be a valuable DAC like Play and Music in the future to air drop on DPOS PTS ?  Instead of some DAC that lack of long term plan and vision like Lottoshares ?

The whole reason people hold PTS in the first place is because they might get a bite from a valuable DAC , not just anything that drops 10% on their head .

2、Will I3 or AGS fund provide promotion , marketing and development fund to attract those developer out there to share drop on DPOS PTS ?   (simple answer , yes or no ).

3、Will I3 or the active developers of I3 claim responsibility for anything negative may cause by DPOS PTS ?

4、Will I3 or the active developers of I3 maintain this project even if it fails  ? (I'm not asking what the community would do to save it ) .

5、Do you think it's appropriate for us to address the market specifically that "DPOS PTS is not a I3 product and it's not being maintain by the Bitshares team and will not be given any financial support . The Bitshares team will not claim any formal responsibility for this DPOS PTS ."

It is true that PTS will not have that degree of support any more, but in some ways that may be good.  If I understand correctly, it is now being positioned as a neutral demographic of people who appreciate and understand DACs - one that any developer can feel comfortable honoring.  And it still has many advantages over all the first-generation altcoins out there, as I summarized here:

https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=11877.msg159163#msg159163

恩，说清楚就好了。
现在大家明白了，一个100%代表一天的 收入大概是4277BTS
现在100%受托人的收入每月折合是2500美元，大概是15375人民币。
对于一个全职的职工来说这个收入不算高，
不过 如果是一个兼职的人员，不用每天做事，就能以后每个月有这么多收入那算很高了。
我觉得：
dev.bitsharesblocks  （BTS社区唯一的区块浏览器bitsharesblocks.com的作者）
这个人的工资高了，他只是做了一个网站区块游览器，而且网站都做好了。
还每个月给他跟bm这个全职人员一样的工资，太高了。他肯定不是全职工作吧。

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This guide will provide a brief overview of the business opportunities available for those who wish to become a BitShares Gateway.   A Gateway provides the service of bridging external assets such as fiat dollars, gold, silver, and Bitcoin into the BitShares network.   This service is critical to the success of BitShares because the vast majority of value moving into and out of the BitShares network must flow through a Gateway. 

This sentence threw me of, had to read it 3 times.

I3 are no longer custodians of PTS, but they are in full support of the project. Many people are conflating these two things.

I3’s primary focus going forward will be BTS, but some of their devs have offered resources to the project already. Toast has offered development support in his free time, Cass has helped with the website, Testz supports the project, Stan and Dan have returned all funds from the BitShares Trust and both have expressed support for the project. There were potential regulatory risks associated with PTS funding and continued custodianship by I3. The major exchanges and services have also expressed support. Coinmarketcap is updated and BTER will honor the snapshot. As you can see, this project is about as official as things can get without explicit I3 ownership.

* A standalone DPOS blockchain makes PTS the only DAC-agnostic, non-inflationary DPOS chain and the best candidate for sharedropping by 3rd party DACs.

* PTS will also be the most logical chain to fork by 3rd party DACs. Our developer pc has already implemented an “import by signed message” feature which exists in no other crypto and is an absolute necessity for sharecropping DACs. See here: http://pts.cubeconnex.com/index.php?topic=37

As for the questions about incentive structure for running delegates, I think it is important to note that the incentives are exactly the same as those of the prior BTSX chain. As adoption and market cap grows, the incentives and decentralization of the network also increase.

The Chinese community has been integral to the success of PTS. We invite you to join us in growing the Bitshares ecosystem by building a strong, stable, and efficient PTS.