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DevShares / Re: DevShares 0.6.3 Feedback
« on: February 05, 2015, 07:32:04 am »
Cross-posting from github about Chinese community feedback:

https://github.com/BitShares/web_wallet/issues/567

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I went through some of those and fixed a couple, but some aren't actual bugs:

3: The client already does that, at least on my end
5: Fixed
8: Fixed by yourself in backend
9: Simply due to using DVS
10: Fixed
@clayop I've fixed the translations, but also added a few fields that were missing. There were missing fields for all languages actually, so for those of you who want to keep the translations up to date you can go check the new .json files in the "newlayout" branch once valzav merges my pull request.

Thank you very much

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中文(Chinese) / Music作者透露最新动态
« on: February 05, 2015, 05:58:17 am »
Cob公开出来发言了,说明只是股权暂时流动在bts上,等正式钱包出来后就会移过去。
至于那些担心Music会进入BTS里面,是错的,这个并不是BM的项目,是Cob的项目。
为了减轻误会,Cob强烈建议交易所不要给这个自定义资产上架。

https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=14025.msg182549#new

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DevShares / Re: DevShares 0.6.3 Feedback
« on: February 04, 2015, 02:49:44 pm »
problems collected from the chinese community:

1. still cannot leave message on wall

2. transaction amount should be limited to the 5th digit after the decimal point, or the transaction record will be incorrect

3. When my mouse cursor moved to the 'signal intensity' icon on the botom right in the status bar of GUI, it should gives me 'how many active connections do we have now':


4. while syncing with the blockchain, the GUI should tell me the ETA till synced.

5. market layout problem 1: sometimes in the market, the charts do not use the full space

but if you resize the window or maximize, it will re-adjust itself.

6. market layout problem 2: in the price chart, some texts do not align with the corresponding bar:


7. if you submit multiple order at the same time, it will take forever to have them all broadcasted.

8. the memo of transaction is still limited to 20 characters:


9. no market depth is shown:


10. chinese localization is still incompleted

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Muse/SoundDAC / Re: NOTES to be a UIA on bitshares blockchain??
« on: February 04, 2015, 02:00:56 pm »
This is just like NEM on NXT-AE , nothing new .

It's not together , just use the platform to trade future stake .

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中文(Chinese) / 赌博游戏不会考虑加入到BTS钱包里
« on: February 04, 2015, 04:25:19 am »
如题。

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ha? why would I use a service for exchange when I can do the exchange in the market myself?
What's the use-case here?

because you don't need to go to each of the exchange pair and think about the price .
It's done lazy guy style .

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General Discussion / Re: Organization and Leadership
« on: February 03, 2015, 06:53:13 am »
leadership takes time to think , survey , learn , research .
But the most important thing is power . Without power over all the parties   , leadership is a moot point .
How can a leader lead if everything he orders can easily be ignored by the people he was suppose to lead .
How can a leader lead the developers if the developers are the leaders of this project themselves .

We jump in the decentralized state too early before we can figure this out .

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Just a side note , PLAY don't do gambling themselves also .

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nope , 3 months ago , it was BM himself said gambling in super-dac would be a "political incorrect" idea .

The sudden latching onto this by BM shows me he is realizing we are in a desperate situation. The merger happened after he figured out that BTSX was in trouble and it gave a temporary lifeline. Now he sees gambling as a way to prop it up.

BTC is about to take a massive dive. If as expected it pulls down BTS with it it means the whole system would collapse on itself as dilution have to be increased to fund the developers. All the while BM would be preaching the BitShares 'philosophy' with the BitAssets gather dust.

In China , gamble is public enemy No.1 of every family .
People worry their kids and spouses to gamble away all their savings .
If a mother found out his teenage son spent 100USD on a gambling game easily , she will contact the major media and expose the game provider .  Where his son deposit their money , exchanges , gateways , whatever , BTS would turned into a monster in a matter days .
The police would have to act on the complaint .

Anyway , I guess not only China . This thing is controlled in the US as well .

Especially in the Bitcoin dive , it's too risky to risk the only fiat portal we could afford in 6 months .

I still remembers the debit card fiasco . Wanting something doesn't make it true , hard work and serious product will get us out of the jam . Hell , if this had been done in the past months instead of thinking about all those unrealistic plans , we could have stable mobile wallet using in Africa by now with billions of potential BitUSD and BitCNY demands .  Our guy in Africa is still waiting a stable protocol and mobile wallet , I have to calm him down and stall him to use our product . (this guy is serious , contact with richest Chinese in Africa )

Why not grab those we can afford right in front of our eyes instead wasting time chasing dreams ?

I find it ironic that you say gambling is public enemy #1 in china, yet the investment in crypto currencies that we are trying to push is one of the riskiest investments one could make. And if gambling is viewed so horribly in china, why is Macau the biggest gambling center on the planet?

Macau is a special section in China . It didn't even use the same political system .

Investment in crypto is just like investment in stock market . Gamble is gamble .

If you're gonna argue stock market is gamble , then be my guest .

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nope , 3 months ago , it was BM himself said gambling in super-dac would be a "political incorrect" idea .

The sudden latching onto this by BM shows me he is realizing we are in a desperate situation. The merger happened after he figured out that BTSX was in trouble and it gave a temporary lifeline. Now he sees gambling as a way to prop it up.

BTC is about to take a massive dive. If as expected it pulls down BTS with it it means the whole system would collapse on itself as dilution have to be increased to fund the developers. All the while BM would be preaching the BitShares 'philosophy' with the BitAssets gather dust.

In China , gamble is public enemy No.1 of every family .
People worry their kids and spouses to gamble away all their savings .
If a mother found out his teenage son spent 100USD on a gambling game easily , she will contact the major media and expose the game provider .  Where his son deposit their money , exchanges , gateways , whatever , BTS would turned into a monster in a matter days .
The police would have to act on the complaint .

Anyway , I guess not only China . This thing is controlled in the US as well .

Especially in the Bitcoin dive , it's too risky to risk the only fiat portal we could afford in 6 months .

I still remembers the debit card fiasco . Wanting something doesn't make it true , hard work and serious product will get us out of the jam . Hell , if this had been done in the past months instead of thinking about all those unrealistic plans , we could have stable mobile wallet using in Africa by now with billions of potential BitUSD and BitCNY demands .  Our guy in Africa is still waiting a stable protocol and mobile wallet , I have to calm him down and stall him to use our product . (this guy is serious , contact with richest Chinese in Africa )

Why not grab those we can afford right in front of our eyes instead wasting time chasing dreams ?

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I definitely don't want to mess with anything that could damage BTS in China but BTS is supposed to be a Super-DAC not a SuperLimited/Constrained-DAC. It means we need other DACs.

Online - Bitcoin - & now blockchain based gambling is hugely lucrative.  If our rockstar developers are capable of & want to add gambling to a DPOS blockchain why should they and we miss out on that value.

nope , 3 months ago , it was BM himself said gambling in super-dac would be a "political incorrect" idea .

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relaying information from TradeBTS and several other major members of the Chinese community :

No matter it's on the BTS wallet or just on the blockchain , if this thing go through , they'll have to stop running their business and plans for BTS .

It's a legal risk for all of them .

I haven't talked to the exchanges yet , but I guess they would have the same worry .

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刚跟吐司沟通了一下,BTS的数量接近正确,因为经常有投票行为。而BitCNY和BitUSD并不经常合并在一起统计,所以数据会跟实际情况有偏差,目前也没有精确的方式统计。

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Agreed . Time frame matters . Etherum will be out in March , and several other projects competing for market space . If 1.0 weren't ready by then , there maybe no second chances to let some of the major investors stay . Now there are only 27 days left .

And we just failed the network again on last Saturday with reasons unknown .
It's to luxurious to focus on anything else for the moment , including gambling and BM's blog .

I fully agree. Get this stable & user-friendly ASAP. Then we can sell it.

I voted that I support the gambling idea, but in the interests of time I too think it is way more important to get what we have stable and perfect first. BTS gambling can be reconsidered once we're rock solid and looking for new ways to expand the ecosystem.

Also agree about the blog-time. There's just no way that the number of users positively turned on to BTS from the blog justifies the time necessary to prepare posts for it. In fact there's a good chance plenty more potentially-interested users have been fully turned off to BTS due to the controversial nature of several articles...

We have a small project that's already turned on some interesting people . A adult product shop accepted BitCNY , and they would do free marketing for us . Over time , people should realize it's not convincing the public that matters , the key is to convince those who can convince the mass . and they'll do the rest for us . Save our energy to produce a solid product , those who really like it , would advocate it for us .

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Seeing as that BM realises BTS is about to fail and is putting it in as a desperate step, everybody should vote yes.

spoiler alert : BTS is gonna go viral in several months due to some major promotion effort in China , unless we do something to drag their feet . A crowd funding company already got millions of USD of VC to operate their operation on BTS . That's once in a life time opportunity for BTS .

As a matter of fact , all they want is no more surprises , a stable wallet and protocol ,  everything will work out eventually .

Yes this.

It is quite possible that our excellent chinese marketing and community will manage to take BTS viral provided that:
1) We get a stable release version, lite wallet, etc released in a reasonable time frame, and
2) We don't shoot ourselves in the foot and piss them off all the chinese investors.

Agreed . Time frame matters . Etherum will be out in March , and several other projects competing for market space . If 1.0 weren't ready by then , there maybe no second chances to let some of the major investors stay . Now there are only 27 days left .

And we just failed the network again on last Saturday with reasons unknown . As I recall , it's the same issue that hasn't got solved 1 months ago .
It's too luxurious to focus on anything else for the moment , including gambling and BM's blog .

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