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Marketplace / Re: Buy Keyhotee ID with ProtoShares 100 PTS+
« on: November 11, 2013, 07:15:18 pm »
We are also accepting Keyhotee ID PreOrders for 100+ PTS!

http://invictus-innovations.com/founder-sign-up

Jesus Christ! 100+PTS?

That is like 10 BTC. Sorry but who is going to pay 100+ PTS for a Keyhotee ID?
Maybe you mean more like 12 PTS.

I agree,
the price was 12 PTS yesterday, this is a big drop.

It was actually a major price hike considering the cost of acquiring PTS and their value to those who believe in what we are doing enough to buy a Keyhotee ID.

I would argue that "price hike" based on current exchange rates is irrelevent.  If you were selling a good that was resellable it might be a valid concern, but given that you expect the value of PTS to go up over time (I assume) it doesn't make sense for this to be price sensitive.

You should not change the price until exchanges exist, but it would be much better if you didnt change the price at all except to lower it.  You will get more people willing to spend 25 PTS if they feel like they're getting a value from you (because it's cheaper than the current BTC exchange), you lose nothing and over time you'll probably gain more value from the PTS than BTC because PTS has more potential for exponential appreciation.

I think you should set the minimums at .25btc or 25 PTS and keep it there until it's flatly untenable.

There is overhead associated with adding names, and they are a premium product....   My reasoning for hiking the price is because the current cost of mining 100PTS is very low... and the REPUTE points you get for being a founder are supposed to indicate that you invested at least $100 in your name.    100 PTS right now only means you invested 1 day of CPU power...   

If you anyone is willing to buy at a Keyhotee ID at $50 or $25 but not $100 then post here.   I would like to understand the demand...

Very low? Even with digital ocean it took close to $100 to mine just hundreds of PTS. Difficulty has skyrocketed.

Now you're right, it is cheap to mine if you mean to say over the long term if everyone mines for months non stop but the last week or so it was extremely difficult to mine to the point that you had to do a fork.

I doubt many people have 1000PTS. I think most people have around 100PTS and many don't even have that so this price point is kind of comical at this point in time. In the future it will be just as comical because when a real exchange is up the price will probably be even higher for a good while. 12.5 PTS is around 0.25 BTC. 
I have devised a solution to the problem of  declaring a price fix indirectly for my Keyhotee ID prices.

I will now ONLY accept payment for Keyhotee IDs via ProtoShares and will credit your ID with the market value of the ProtoShares as of Christmas Eve so you do not lose any appreciation and it all gets credited to your ID.

This is what you should have done all along. Protoshares are a sort of credit coin or stock which represents all of Invictus Innovations. It should be that you only deal in PTS and this way the value of PTS increases.




Keep in mind these posts were a few days ago when the value of 100PTS was substantially lower than .25btc, and mining was about 32x less difficult.

This is exactly what I was concerned about though, now they either have to lower the price or have fewer people take up their pre-order offer because its simply not economical.

They did it wrong. When people choose to redeem your currency or stock for your goods or services you're supposed to offer a dramatic discount. If it's cheaper to use another currency (Bitcoin) to get a Keyhotee idea then what is the point of having protoshares?

They should offer a 15-20% discount for anyone willing to buy an ID with protoshares.

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Marketplace / Re: Buy Keyhotee ID with ProtoShares 100 PTS+
« on: November 11, 2013, 10:01:52 am »
We are also accepting Keyhotee ID PreOrders for 100+ PTS!

http://invictus-innovations.com/founder-sign-up

Jesus Christ! 100+PTS?

That is like 10 BTC. Sorry but who is going to pay 100+ PTS for a Keyhotee ID?
Maybe you mean more like 12 PTS.

I agree,
the price was 12 PTS yesterday, this is a big drop.

It was actually a major price hike considering the cost of acquiring PTS and their value to those who believe in what we are doing enough to buy a Keyhotee ID.

I would argue that "price hike" based on current exchange rates is irrelevent.  If you were selling a good that was resellable it might be a valid concern, but given that you expect the value of PTS to go up over time (I assume) it doesn't make sense for this to be price sensitive.

You should not change the price until exchanges exist, but it would be much better if you didnt change the price at all except to lower it.  You will get more people willing to spend 25 PTS if they feel like they're getting a value from you (because it's cheaper than the current BTC exchange), you lose nothing and over time you'll probably gain more value from the PTS than BTC because PTS has more potential for exponential appreciation.

I think you should set the minimums at .25btc or 25 PTS and keep it there until it's flatly untenable.

There is overhead associated with adding names, and they are a premium product....   My reasoning for hiking the price is because the current cost of mining 100PTS is very low... and the REPUTE points you get for being a founder are supposed to indicate that you invested at least $100 in your name.    100 PTS right now only means you invested 1 day of CPU power...   

If you anyone is willing to buy at a Keyhotee ID at $50 or $25 but not $100 then post here.   I would like to understand the demand...

Very low? Even with digital ocean it took close to $100 to mine just hundreds of PTS. Difficulty has skyrocketed.

Now you're right, it is cheap to mine if you mean to say over the long term if everyone mines for months non stop but the last week or so it was extremely difficult to mine to the point that you had to do a fork.

I doubt many people have 1000PTS. I think most people have around 100PTS and many don't even have that so this price point is kind of comical at this point in time. In the future it will be just as comical because when a real exchange is up the price will probably be even higher for a good while. 12.5 PTS is around 0.25 BTC. 
I have devised a solution to the problem of  declaring a price fix indirectly for my Keyhotee ID prices.

I will now ONLY accept payment for Keyhotee IDs via ProtoShares and will credit your ID with the market value of the ProtoShares as of Christmas Eve so you do not lose any appreciation and it all gets credited to your ID.

This is what you should have done all along. Protoshares are a sort of credit coin or stock which represents all of Invictus Innovations. It should be that you only deal in PTS and this way the value of PTS increases.



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Marketplace / Re: [WTB] 200 PTS @ 0.003 max 0.6 BTC
« on: November 10, 2013, 08:54:07 am »
The market price is substantially above this.  There is a standing order from an admin for 20,000 @ .0045, and the difficulty is going up 4x every two days.

Not pressuring you to change your price, just mentioning that its a market with way more buyers than sellers right now.

The best I can do is 0.004 which matches somewhat.


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Marketplace / [WTB] 600 PTS @ 0.004
« on: November 10, 2013, 06:35:25 am »
Who is selling?

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BitShares PTS / Re: ProtoShares Mining Pool running taday
« on: November 10, 2013, 12:17:25 am »
It's being DDoSed!


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BitShares PTS / Re: Mining Pool?
« on: November 09, 2013, 04:57:29 am »
NO paidout for me???? SHARES ACCEPTED AND BLOCK TICKKING ON THE SITE LIKE CRAZY!!! BUT NOTHING FOR ME??? WTF,,,??? BAD POOL THATS WHY NO OPEN SOURCE!!!

Took me about 2 hours to receive my first payment..they don't payout less than 1 PTS

Apparently they don't pay out more than 1PTS either. Currently it's not worth it to mine. It costs more to mine than 1PTS an hour or whatever.

How can it only be 1PTS when you have huge pools set up to mine it? it doesn't make sense.

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BitShares PTS / Re: [PTSMINER] 95% Rejects?
« on: November 08, 2013, 10:18:30 pm »
Machine 1
Code: [Select]
VL: 23 (4.6%), RJ: 480 (95.4%), ST: 0 (0.0%)Machine 2
Code: [Select]
VL: 16 (6.5%), RJ: 229 (93.5%), ST: 0 (0.0%)Machine 3
Code: [Select]
VL: 167 (36.3%), RJ: 293 (63.7%), ST: 0 (0.0%)Machine 4
Code: [Select]
VL: 74 (32.2%), RJ: 156 (67.8%), ST: 0 (0.0%)

Any idea what is causing so high reject rates?

I'm having the same problem only it's 100% reject rate.

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BitShares PTS / Re: Mining Pool?
« on: November 08, 2013, 10:17:30 pm »
Is anyone on Linux getting decent accept/reject rates? I have 91.1% rejects.

I have 100% rejects on Linux and Windows. What is causing this?

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BitShares PTS / Re: Mining Pool?
« on: November 08, 2013, 08:28:04 pm »
Also, is there a linux client?
Get a the SC out or a linux variant and I'll throw a couple hundred servers at it. :D

Source at github https://github.com/donSchoe/ptsminer

Any instructions on how to get it set up in Linux?

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Marketplace / Re: [WTS] 275 @ .0018
« on: November 08, 2013, 06:28:11 pm »
I'll buy. I have 0.2 BTC.

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Marketplace / Re: WTS 270 PTS @ 0.0021 BTC (0.567 total)
« on: November 08, 2013, 10:05:19 am »
Any more PTS for sale?

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