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General Discussion / Re: BitShares X Status Update
« on: April 21, 2014, 12:44:28 am »

https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=3812.msg53938#msg53938

 'We should have P2P fully integrated and tested this week under the trustee model.   At this point we will launch the chain with an intention of doing a hard-fork to activate DPOS once enough delegates have been elected and the system is sound. ' 

+5%

GREAT!

Now we are talking!

 My recent aggressive, and in more than one occasion crossing the line of offensive, posts are paying dividends. :)))

Clearly all progress is the result of your posts.  :P

http://xkcd.com/552/

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Apologies Stan, I didn't mean to imply that I thought AGS was not being used as expected.  My intent was to address the more general discontent some hold regarding planned release dates and other specific adaptations to initial plans.

As you just quoted: "...Anything is fair game that we believe will grow the value of PTS and all DACs that honor the contributions of PTS and AGS holders.  That said, these are pure donations for which your only expectation must be that we will use our best judgement to apply them toward these purposes."  Thus anyone who "feels they were sold a false bill of goods" I think failed to understand the arrangement, for one reason or other.

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It's not forgotten.  The plan is to move it to DPOS.  Any other fix to this would still require getting everyone to adopt the new fork, so hopefully we can live with the long block times until a final solution is available, rather than spending valuable dev time on a temporary solution and then still having to solve it again later to get rid of POW.

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The problem with Bitshares is they started selling a product before they had one, and have had no problem taking money all along the way promoting whatever is currently being worked on.  As such, there are many people who feel they were sold a false bill of goods.  Those people can upturn the apple cart pretty badly if they sue Invictus, which will make the project very difficult to complete.

The problem of course with Invictus is there is no escape valve for the funds invested in the venture, so they don't care about investors. They already have the funds.  They just want to be left alone to work, which would be fine except they're still taking time to promote and network and pivot the vision based on what they think is right, but it's very seat-of-the-pants and makes me nervous. 

Mostly though, I think a lot of us feel like we are trapped.  Whether in PTS or AGS, selling now is to your detriment and Invictus can keep this up for as long as they want, individual supporters have no option but to wait.

I think this is somewhat legitimate criticism, but I think it largely comes from either a failure of III to communicate the initial arrangement or a failure of investors to understand it.  Bytemaster is an idealist I think, and part of his dream is a post-contract society.  The "investment" model here is based on that vision, so it's structured as donations based on personal trust between individuals.  The open discussion of plans on this forum I think are not intended as promises to investors, but as collaboration and relationship/consensus building between individuals.  Those who saw it this way to begin with and thought they were investing in the people involved and in their visions I think are generally happy.  Many of those coming from a more traditional investment perspective I think are not happy.

Personally, I think the people involved in this are generally trustworthy, talented, and have a valuable vision they're trying to bring to reality.  I certainly don't see Bytemaster as the sort of programmer/economist god that some of the cult-like attitudes I see around here would suggest, but I think he and the rest of the team are making good progress pursuing good goals, and I trust them enough to invest time and resources in their success.

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BitShares AGS / Re: Today .I made a too bad mistake
« on: April 20, 2014, 10:26:41 pm »
Hi, I have a non-crazy idea to recall my PTS: several days ago I send them from exchange trade platform to III so I can not control following DAC shares.

2014-03-28 00:11:36   from PikAq7jB7yHJnZ8gsBXFLWquD1bPoeP7x5   quantity:   158.4 PTS

May I take them back and donate same PTS again from my local wallet?

thank you very much.

Those AGS are already allocated to the exchange, and III can't really pull them back, because they're in the blockchain.  Which exchange was it?  Have you tried talking to them about it?  They're really in the best position to do anything about this.

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BitShares AGS / Re: Today .I made a too bad mistake
« on: April 20, 2014, 10:22:41 pm »
Can I get a refund on the double transaction I sent to the AGS address a month or two ago?  Sent 2kPTS when I only intended to send 1k, blockchain reflects the mistake (it was two TX, one sent the day before the other sent the day after but I closed the client apparently before it broadcast because they were both picked up in the same block when I fired the second one) but I figured the rules were the rules and it was my mistake.

If we're fixing mistakes, I'd be happy to get my 1k PTS back.

The rules are that usage of AGS donations is entirely at III discretion, as they're donations.  In this case I guess they think the best use of some that donation is to show grace to somewhat diminish the consequences of this error.  They would have every right to do the same in your case, or to do nothing.

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BitShares AGS / Re: Today .I made a too bad mistake
« on: April 20, 2014, 08:16:45 pm »
My opinion would be to return the PTS to the guy and call it the day...

Today's PTS donators won't be diluted.

Apparantly that was an honest mistake. Everybody make mistakes...The community should show their support!

That won't work.  His donation is in the blockchain, and the blockchain can't be revised, so he has the AGS already, and the AGS cannot be returned.  If his PTS is returned, he just gets almost 5000 AGS for free.  Since the AGS can't be returned, my recommendation is to send back part of his PTS such that he gets his AGS at closer to the average rate.

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BitShares AGS / Re: Today .I made a too bad mistake
« on: April 20, 2014, 07:47:06 pm »
It is not technically possible to return AGS.  III has no obligation to do anything about this, but since use of donations is entirely at III discretion, they could take the top 1120 PTS or so of the donation and distribute it to today's donors (including ebit) to decrease their losses.

I'm not saying they should do anything, but if they decide they should, this is the approach I would recommend.

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General Discussion / Re: Claims BTS questions.
« on: April 20, 2014, 06:14:52 pm »
Hi guys,

I'm sorry and I know I have a shit load of reading to catch up on so please excuse the questions I will fire.

1)  How to I claim my BTS after investing in AGS / PTS / BTC
2)  Is there a BTS waller ot is it still a PTS wallet rebrand? Will it show BTS owned?
3)  When is BTS launch for trading etc?

Thanks guys.

One thing you should know is that the AGS Explorer does not tell you the accurate number of bitShares to which you are entitled.  I know I can personally give screenshots showing I have donated approx 2x what it says, and in time for the feb snapshot.  Not sure if others are having this issue, but it is an issue that needs to be fixed.

I believe the issue you're describing is due to donations from different addresses, such as change addresses your wallet manages for you.  Try looking up the transaction ID of one of your donations that isn't listed on AGS Explorer on the block explorer, and see what the source address is.

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DAC PLAY / Re: Blockchain RNG with DPOS
« on: April 20, 2014, 03:03:45 pm »
Can there be known numbers where S1,S2 have the same HASH(S)? If yes, delegates can use this to cheat. Say the number is SH. Say I always publish SH and choose S1 or S2 to reveal if I'm the last one in the round. How can I reduce this risk?

This is technically possible, but is cost/time prohibitive.  The entire BTC proof of work system is basically based on how impossible it would be to do this sort of thing.

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BitShares AGS / Re: Please stop AGS Bid!
« on: April 20, 2014, 05:48:41 am »
I'm very glad I started donating early, because I still expect the BitSharesX snapshot to be a winner, but the recent AGS ratios are pretty exciting for future snapshots, so I'm glad I saved instead of putting everything in early.  Just trying to throw some positive feedback in here...

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General Discussion / Re: Active Directory DAC Solution?
« on: April 18, 2014, 02:09:49 pm »
We're all still learning all this stuff, since much of it has never been done before, so don't take my words as authoritative.  :P

What I'd like to see similar to this is a Keyhotee based VPN, and Keyhotee key secured remote access.  Combined with decentralized storage, I think this could offer more functionality, as well as finer granularity of control than Active Directory.

There's an old project to manage OpenSSH key lookups through the PGP Web of Trust, but I think Keyhotee would be much more elegant for this sort of thing: http://web.monkeysphere.info/

Keyhotee based logins to the local machine would be great, but to be secure I think it would require using a phone or other trusted device to pass the credentials.

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General Discussion / Re: Active Directory DAC Solution?
« on: April 18, 2014, 05:07:03 am »
I think this is a great idea in terms of usefulness, but I'm not sure if it's directly profitable on its own.  The most straightforward approach seems like it would be a modified Active Directory client that uses something like MaidSafe for data storage.

The profit problem I see is that Active Directory is only useful for people with networks, and almost any solution you make could just as easily be limited to their network, so there's no motivation to pay a single global network rather than run it internally.

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It sounds like your BitShares-PTS client may have stalled connections.  Try restarting it to fix this, and you can also confirm if this is the problem by checking the number of blocks processed by your client and comparing to a block explorer.  You can also look at the transaction details for the unconfirmed transaction in your client and see how many nodes it's been broadcast to.

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Keyhotee / Re: Keyhotee Status Update
« on: April 17, 2014, 02:31:27 am »
v0.7.0 Public Key: 8cMZ3Was5orWHpkkjDnEjvVmcj16Ekpj4Decb164hY3hobExKd

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