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General Discussion / Re: Reasons for Lowering Fees
« on: November 16, 2015, 03:36:53 am »
Please let me wrap up my argument.

1. I don't want to destroy the referral system. Instead I want to facilitate it by attracting (or not driving out) users and by spurring more transactions (especially market orders)

2. Desirable transfer fee is about $0.03 (at most), the same as Bitcoin level. Because Bitcoin is our main competitor.

3. Desirable order creation fee is about 1 BTS. Because it can effectively prevent spam at the same time it is as low as possible.

4. There can be possibility to keep transfer fee at the current rate, but to lower order creation fee only. This may need more discussions.

1.  The referral system would effectively be gone for those that want to create payment businesses.

2.  Traders don't really care about infrequent fixed transfer fees especially if it's only 20 cents.  They might be a bit annoyed if it's percentage based and it's close to 1% and they are moving thousands of dollars...  Bitcoin is not our main competitor.  Bitcoin is hardly used for payments or even p2p transfers.  Most people just buy/hold/invest/trade Bitcoin.    Online banking, Venmo, Square Cash, Paypal, Apple Pay (will most likely be in p2p payments in 2016) are the competitors and they are all free for p2p payments.   We shouldn't try to compete with free.  However with our referral system and our focus on merchants, we can actually grow rapidly despite the competition and actually be sustainable.   

3 & 4.   I believe order creation fees are refunded if cancelled.  I'm open to discussing order creation fees, but I'd like to defer to people who  are creating their own exchanges like CCEDK and other companies.   I'd let new exchange startups decide what are good fees.  Exchange businesses can subsidize fees with promotions if they want .  We should make the blockchain protocol and parameters fairly stable and sustainable and let businesses who build on top of it figure out various fee structures.  It's extremely difficult for entrepreneurs and startups to work if the parameters and protocol change so often.

We're focused on building a payments business and the transfer fees and the referral program are core to our strategy.   I made the decision to start working on Bitshares 2.0 because of the fantastic design of the referral system and the protocol features.  That was nearly  eight months ago.  It takes a long time to formulate strategies, build teams, raise money etc.  and to have to change our strategy and business model would be extremely difficult.  I speak mainly from the payments side of the protocol, because that's our focus.

That's exactly how I feel. If someone starts working on a business model, we shouldn't pull the rug under their feet every 6 months. That's just delaying development and prevent businesses from jumping on board. We need developers and entrepreneurs who will attract customers. Bitshares should provide a solid and stable environment for them.

Regime uncertainty is a real issue and we should be VERY careful before affecting the fee structure., especially when we do not have all committee members slots full.

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General Discussion / Re: Bitshares paper trading?
« on: November 16, 2015, 03:08:22 am »
I was listening to Beyond Bitcoin Show of November 6th. BM mentioned a demo website located on a central server with fictitious tokens as being an item on the roadmap.

I know it is for people to test dev stuff but can we use it for paper trading too?

I myself would love to play in a "sandbox" with fictional BTS, USD, BTC, etc.

Connected to a good tutorials and "voila"...Bitshares Academy!
This could also serve as a funnel to get people to buy Lifetime Memberships when they are ready to trade for real.

Anybody else interested in BitShares paper trading?

Yes.  I think this could be a tremendous tool.  I would enjoy it for all sorts of reasons. Eager to see it materialize.

The learning curve can be quite steep on first approach.  The freedom to use all the features, turn all the nobs, and play with all the settings is a great way to become familiar and actually get whats going on, without spending a bunch of money or making a costly mistake.   There's good incentive to build all sorts of things on this.

My understanding is that this is not meant to be DevShares but a sort of playground.  DevShares would specifically be the branch slated to replace the main network and would not contain any of the playground experimental stuff.

Hey @Xeldal you are probably more familiar than me about how one could go about creating such platform. I think it could be a great way to get new users...especially if we "gamefy" it. Just like those poker website where you can learn without spending any real money then when one feels good enough to play with real money, we've got a trained trader who will buy a membership to use the platform and actually use it.

Do we need a license from cryptonomex @bytemaster?

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General Discussion / Re: Bitshares paper trading?
« on: November 15, 2015, 11:21:02 pm »
Could make it a game. Each week or month, the user starts with 100,000 fake BTS. The site works just like OK, except there is no deposit or withdraws. It would function just like a centralized version of OL so there's no need for multiple witnesses and committees. The rules,fees and feeds would just mirror the real dex. Who ever has the mist BTS or networth at the end of the round wins. You also add a real BTS entry fee and those who enter would win that pool.

I like that!

So, how would that work with Cryptonomex if someone wanted to create this kind of website? I would see it has a great way to introduce people by removing all barriers to entry. This could be a business opportunity.

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General Discussion / Bitshares paper trading?
« on: November 15, 2015, 10:33:51 pm »
I was listening to Beyond Bitcoin Show of November 6th. BM mentioned a demo website located on a central server with fictitious tokens as being an item on the roadmap.

I know it is for people to test dev stuff but can we use it for paper trading too?

I myself would love to play in a "sandbox" with fictional BTS, USD, BTC, etc.

Connected to a good tutorials and "voila"...Bitshares Academy!
This could also serve as a funnel to get people to buy Lifetime Memberships when they are ready to trade for real.

Anybody else interested in BitShares paper trading?

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General Discussion / Re: Reasons for Lowering Fees
« on: November 15, 2015, 08:22:52 pm »
Who can I vote via proxy to keep the status quo?
This whole fee change gives me the willy and destabilize any business who's trying to make their profit and loss calculation.

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Usually, the VALUE for regeneration of keys can only help for MARKET TRADING transactions. If you have traded a lot, you need to have a rather high number.
If you only traded a little, smaller numbers should be sufficient.

Its still a pain in the ass.
Here is an alternative approach that would scan each transaction individually

wallet_scan_transaction <txid>
wallet_scan_transaction_experimental <txid>
wallet_verify_titan_deposit <txid>

Not sure if any of those work for market transactions .. but please try them on any of your UNKNOWN transactions and see if it helps.

Thank you xeroc, if I get my funds back, you'll receive a generous tip! ;-)

what is txid? (transaction id) that I must do 1 by 1?

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Do you see transactions with "unkown" as recepient?
Have you checked your balance with "balance" (the transactions history "balance" tends to be incorrect)

Yes, I have plenty with "Unknown" as recipient. So I have to type "balance" in the console.

Also, how do I define the value in wallet_regenerate_keys ACCOUNT-NAME VALUE ?
10500? 30000?

Don't want to end up having to do this with a third time.

(Thanks for the help, it will be a good use of ShareBits once I can finally recover my funds! )   

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BitShare 2015-10-14.7z.
This already downloaded to the browser.

Extract that file. You should find a folder named "chain".
Now go to C:\Users\*your_username*\AppData\Roaming\BitShares
Here you will find another chain folder, rename it as "chain-old"
Copy the downloaded and extracted chain folder and paste it here
Start the 0.9.3c bitshares client

At this point, if you still don't have all the fund, go to the console and type "rescan".
This could take a long time, just wait and be patient, you can check the scan progress in the bottom left corner.
Once the scan is completed, you should have all the funds.

Let me know

I am in the exact same boat as him. I downloaded the blockchain and then the command -> scan
once that was completed...still funds missing

then I did -> wallet_regenerate_keys ACCOUNT-NAME 10500   
...finished this morning: still funds missing

then for 1 last try this morning: wallet_regenerate_keys ACCOUNT-NAME 35000   
hope I am going to get my funds out of that one.

Am I missing something?

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General Discussion / Re: [ANN]Now Open: ShareBits CrowdDonations
« on: November 14, 2015, 09:15:26 pm »
I will definitely use this service and if I can unlock my funds before it's too late.

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It's not nonsense. BM is asking for something that is needed. My comment was not flip or sarcastic. It was based upon experience with two different operating systems and the latest 0.9.3c wallet. I did not have firewalls blocking ports and had high speed Internet connectivity.

Syncing the older wallet was very problematic, typically taking a day or more to update the database and fully sync, often times hanging at some point in the process. This is a very serious issue and is possibly one of the most damaging things to BTS' reputation.

If a guide were to be established that was 100% reproducible on all platforms (WIn, OSX, Linux), it would be an excellent thing to have.

I'm on the same boat. It took me a while to find @betax copy of the blockchain, then it took me 4 days to execute the "scan" command line. (either had a window update in the middle of the night restarting my computer or the software crashing on me at the 11th hour two time)

This morning I finally finished the scanning...but I'm still missing a big chunk of my funds. Now running

wallet_regenerate_keys ACCOUNT-NAME 10500   ...and I am at 3% after 2 hours.

So yeah, it's a problem and I wish it didn't take me a month to get to this point. Hopefully, this last command will actually get me my funds back.

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Technical Support / Re: Bounty 3000BTS - help me recover my funds.
« on: November 10, 2015, 08:31:28 pm »
All good,I think I figured it out.

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Technical Support / Re: Chain backup 2015-10-11 and how i solved my issues.
« on: November 10, 2015, 04:35:42 am »
you are a saint my friend. :-)

Totally saved my ass on that one

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Technical Support / Re: 0.9.3c import issue
« on: November 09, 2015, 08:32:56 pm »
What's the command to resync the blockchain of 0.9.3c?

And can I actually resync the blockchain so late in the game?

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Technical Support / Re: 0.9.3c import issue
« on: November 09, 2015, 06:31:22 pm »
In windows you need to export your keys from the console not the GUI.

"export_keys" or something similar is the command you are looking for, "help" will give you the list of all commands and the syntax they use.

Thanks for the quick reply.

I entered :
>> wallet_export_keys c:/pathway/myprivatekeys.json

Then went to the CLI and went to "import keys" and uploaded it I got:

Unclaimed balances belonging to these keys:
ASSET TOTALS
No Balances


Then I tried on openledger and got this message:
Unclaimed balances belonging to these keys:
ASSET TOTALS
18,220.35302 BTS


Which is not the correct balance. I am suppose to have around 90k in this key. Where could it be?

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Technical Support / Bounty 3000BTS - help me recover my funds.
« on: November 09, 2015, 05:47:56 pm »
okay, it's been almost a month that I am trying to import my keys to bitshare 2.0.
First, when I try to get the backup from 0.9.3c .json file and import it inside openledger,it's says to me that it's the wrong file type. When I try to do it on the CLI, there are no buttons to move forward and if I press enter, I get a blank white page.

Then, I went to the console of 0.9.3c and typed:
wallet_dump_account_private_key myaccount active_key

and entered it in the openledger wallet. Now it says I can claim 18k BTS...missing about 70k BTS!

What is going on here?

How can I get the complete copy of the blockchain so that I can have a successful 0.9.3c backup?

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