I don't mind being in 4th if it meant they were 120 million and we were 80 million.  It's nice we're catching, I'm not jumping for joy until our value increases.

I'm not looking to be the Robinhood of crypto, I'm looking for consistent action that increases value to investors. BM's revised blog about NuBits was fine, bigger fish to fry than draw more attention to competitors.

I've always dismissed NuBits until this community started constantly talking about them. I've now dug through their forum and found a few FUTURE proposals interesting. Not enough to diversify, but still makes me wonder how much traffic we are are pushing that way.

Everyone is free to do as they please, I just see it as a low value activity.  If we saw the same passion in the Open Challenge to BM thread as we do talking about competitors, we would be in a very different place.

 

I have nothing to add, that says it all.

0.6.0 comes with support for offline voter key and multisig. A generic offline transaction builder for all possible transaction types will come from nathan's light wallet as well.

Thank you Toast.

Quote from: bitmar on January 10, 2015, 02:40:58 pm

Quote from: bitmarket on January 10, 2015, 05:59:03 am

To be clear, It is cool to point out the benefits of bts.  In fact I would say it is critical.  I am just saying being tactful.

Dont say bitshares is better.  Say bitshares is better in this instance.
Say bitcoins does this great while bitshares does that great.

Its just the principles in the classic. "How to win friends and influence people."

But it is all kind of heightened by a factor of ten because if you can make it pro bitcoin you will get 10 times the eyeballs.

The biggest problem I have with bitshares today is its lacking cold wallet functionality. I could x10 my bitshares investment overnight if there was a cold wallet feature that could sign offline transactions and a hot wallet that could broadcast them. Alternatively OTP support in the client would help. Unfortunately now I have to just sit on the sidelines and wait. In the meantime perhaps other options will come up that overtake bitshares.

 

I'd like to hear more about this from our development team.

Bumping for clarification.

Quote from: bytemaster on January 15, 2015, 12:14:51 am

http://bytemaster.bitshares.org/article/2015/01/14/A-New-Perspective-on-NuBits/

I couldn't resist one last blog post because I didn't want the "Ponzi Post" to be the last post for a while.  After discussions on this forum I have adopted a new view on NuBits that is much more friendly and will make a better top post and hopefully repair some damage the last post may have created.

In any event, I did get some coding done today and will do more tomorrow.

Your talent on coding and writing is stunning. We need both.

 

Quote from: Ander on January 13, 2015, 11:48:22 pm

This reddit post is exactly what I am talking about when I said this would hurt us:

http://www.reddit.com/r/BitShares/comments/2sbewk/im_done_with_bitshares/

(I didnt write it).

The number of people who own NuBits who will be convinced to sell them by bytemaster's attack on it is exactly zero. 

The number of people who are interested in or own Bitshares, who will be convinced to sell them and walk away from Bitshares because of this post is an unknown number greater than zero. 


Lets not be the troll who tells other people the thing they bought is going to go down.  Lets instead tell them about the features of our product, why they need it, and why it is valuable.


This is yet another episode in the PR disaster that has been Bitshares existence.  If Bitshares fails, these are the reasons why it will fail. 

Stop bashing other crypto projects.  Just stop.  It does nothing but hurt their opinion of us.

Just be positive about Bitshares.

I support BM all the way! But I wish there was some openness towards and coordination with those that are specialized in PR, marketing etc. in order to make BitShares a success.

One thing I wanted to ad regarding the debate about intention vs. effect driven action (https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=13065.msg172766#msg172766): The vast majority of people will form an opinion about someone's intentions not based on direct observation but based on how others present that person. That is especially true for the internet / digital age where people do not talk to each other face to face. One example is this blog post. For an outsider it is impossible to see whether you bytemaster have the intention to warn people or whether you have the intention to destroy a competitor. Here is a quote from reddit (http://www.reddit.com/r/BitShares/comments/2sbewk/im_done_with_bitshares/): "It’s because the post was a nasty attempt to destroy a rival brand that has outperformed BitShares in many ways."

Bytemaster, please do not stop your marketing Bitshares! Your vision is unmet! But please utilize the people around you to make all your efforts as effectful as they can be.

Thank you for sharing that.