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If you're getting something for free you'd otherwise need to pay for you're not the customer you're the product.
So if I opt to download a movie that was released on DVD instead of paying for it from Amazon, then I have become that DVD?!


If you do the right kind of drug you may feel that way  :D [size=78%]. [/size]


Google doesn't provide folks Gmail for free out of the goodness of their heart.  They're scraping keywords from email to sell targeted ad opportunities.  You're not their customer you're their product they sell to advertisers.  You can extend that concept to just about everything of value you get for "free".


Usually harmless, sometimes nefarious.  I just feel it's worth trying to understand the motivation behind someone giving me something for "free".  Especially someone offering up a binary for folks to run as their first post :).


In the case of your downloaded movie: someone had to take the time to rip it, encode it, and publish it.  Why would they do this?  Perhaps the reason is as simple as they hate the MPAA, and frankly that's not hard, and feel their work is taking money out of MPAA's pocket.  In that case you're no so much the product but the tool but the bottom line is they didn't do it for you and the cost is that if enough revenue is lost in this fashion less movies will be produced.  Unlikely, but that's just the first scenario I came up with in the 30 seconds I've thought about the cost of your "free" movie.  The adage gets a bit stretched when it comes to digital theft; especially if you never planed to buy the movie if you couldn't down load it...but I'm sure some folks download vs bought.
I see your point. I think it's a sweeping statement and there are exceptions to the rule but on the whole - I think you've got some ground there. :) Especially when it comes to commercial entities offering normally paid-for services gratis.

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If you're getting something for free you'd otherwise need to pay for you're not the customer you're the product.
So if I opt to download a movie that was released on DVD instead of paying for it from Amazon, then I have become that DVD?!


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Works like a dream on an nVidia GT220 1GB on Debian 7 x64.

Working on windows, well almost
Nice work, dude.

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BitShares PTS / Re: [ANN] ptsweb.beeeeer.org - Protoshares mining sub-pool
« on: December 18, 2013, 11:50:46 pm »
As a Christmas gift to xolokram and a very modest token of appreciation I'll switch my mining for a few days to his donation address:

PTS: PbfspbvSWxYqrp3DpRH7bsrmEqzY3418Ap

Thanks for staying on the boards and doing the bug and feature fixes xolokram.

Join me if you feel inclined!  Merry Christmas all.
Three cheers for xolo! :)

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General Discussion / Re: BTER Withdrawals Held/Problems
« on: December 18, 2013, 04:21:53 pm »
I've had problems with bter the past few days.

Deposited 1 PTS to them as a test, all went fine - the deposit cleared after 4 confirmations like it says it would.

Deposited another 1 PTS half an hour later and it didn't clear. Even after the full 6 confirmations and now (~18 hours later) with 110 confirmations the amount is still in not in my balance at bter. The transaction is there - the system knows about it - but its status is "Processing". It hasn't changed in that 18 hours.

Not sure what the deal is but I'm not too impressed.. Their support email is basically useless. I've read countless threads online by people saying that they don't reply at all after weeks of nagging.

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Have we got access to any feedback from previous customers?

There are very few reputable gaming-related cryptocoin vendors outside of the Tor network, so I would be cautious about buying from one that hasn't got a way to prove they are reputable..

Edit: Just found the feedback for each individual store. Looks like I'll be buying some stuff from here after all :)

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BitShares PTS / Re: [Feedback Needed] Protoshares.net Launched
« on: December 16, 2013, 10:37:25 am »
I think the website looks great - very modern and very easy to navigate, use etc.

I second the above poster - I do not like the new logo. It's too similar to existing logos that are too familiar within the technology industry.

Also that non-raster laptop isn't easy on the eye.. Might want to swap it out for something a bit smoother imho.

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BEWARE SCAM!
BEWARE SCAM!
BEWARE SCAM!
BEWARE SCAM!
Hey bitshirehashaway, when will you send my signup bonus? I'm waiting more than two weeks. I've sent you proof screenshots, you said you are out of PTS and you said you're able to pay by PayPal. Do you already have PTS? I don't believe you don't as you're mining it!
BEWARE SCAM!
BEWARE SCAM!
BEWARE SCAM!
BEWARE SCAM!
That isn't really called for.. He's giving you free PTS. You aren't paying him a penny. So he isn't scamming you at all..

A Guide on how to set your droplet to auto start ptsminer on boot

Note: I assume you followed "bitshirehashaway" instructions to the letter. If you changed something (e.g. ptsminer install path), you might need to change some stuff.

1. First we need to edit the /etc/rc.local file in a text editor, so enter the following command in the terminal:
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nano /etc/rc.local
2. In the text editor (nano), insert the following line right before the last line ("exit 0"):
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/usr/local/bin/launch_ptsminer.sh 60 & 
Save the file and exit the text editor (CTRL+X).

3. Now let's create the ptsminer startup script. Enter the following command:
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nano /usr/local/bin/launch_ptsminer.sh
4. In the text editor paste the following text:
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#!/bin/bash
DEFAULT_DELAY=0

if [ "x$1" = "x" -o "x$1" = "xnone" ]; then
   DELAY=$DEFAULT_DELAY
else
   DELAY=$1
fi

sleep $DELAY

echo "About to run ptsminer"

cd /root/ptsminer/src
./ptsminer <your PTS address> <number of threads>
Replace <your PTS address> with your actual wallet address and <number of threads> with the number of cores.

Save the file and exit the text editor.

5. Run the following commands and click enter after each one:
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chmod +x /usr/local/bin/launch_ptsminer.sh
chown root:root /usr/local/bin/launch_ptsminer.sh

That's it, you're done! :)
We configured the OS to run "launch_ptsminer.sh" 60 seconds after system boot. The "launch_ptsminer.sh" script executes the ptsminer. So go a head and try it out by restarting the system (cmd: "shutdown -r now") and then check out your process list (cmd: "top").


If this guide helped you to mine some coins please send your tips to:
PnT2vspKeewTLqTD8rqmDhyeyNvJAai57D

Thanks!

P.S.
You can use this steps to create auto run scripts for other CPU miners (just play with the last 2 lines of "launch_ptsminer.sh").

Nice work! A very clear guide. Very well done..

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BitShares PTS / Re: Build your own PTS mining pool...
« on: December 15, 2013, 08:14:18 pm »
yes please, need step-by-step guide
Any pool admin that doesn't know exactly how their own pool was setup is very foolish in my opinion..

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BitShares PTS / Re: mining hardware help
« on: December 14, 2013, 04:21:44 pm »
GPU miner already exists.
Not entirely sure I - or anyone else - can believe you without some sort of proof, as this would be the golden goose of Protoshare mining.

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BitShares PTS / Re: Cloud Mining under Debian / DigitalOcean
« on: December 14, 2013, 04:18:47 pm »
Hello,

I'm a newbie from germany, using windows.
Excuse my english (Sometimes missed the school:)

It was a little bit tricky for me, to start the machine on DigitalOcean.
But finally I succeded:)
The machine is running now under Debian 7.

I have the following questions:

1.
I use the program "putty", to establish a connection to my machine.
This seems to be the "standard" program, to make a ssh connection?

Over this connection I can start the miner. Works pretty well.
But after a few hours (sometimes after a few minutes), the connection coincidentally breaks down
with a network error. I'he tried it at home and at the office.

I assume, that  this causes the miner to stop.
Because: When I establish a new connection and type "top" in the console,
no miner is running.

That's frustrating, for I pay for the time, I own the machine, and not for the time,
the miner is running.

My Question:

Is there a way, to keep the miner running, even, when there is no connection?

Thanks a lot for your help.

Hurlie
Hello again Hurlie,
Like the above poster said, you can use the Linux command "nohup" to send the command to the background. However another way - and arguably a more accessible way (if you wanted to quickly access or monitor the miner) is to use "screen".

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screen ./ptsminer <wallet id> 4

This would start the miner in a new screen.

To 'minimize' this screen, press CTRL+A and then CTRL+D. The screen should minimize dropping you to a normal shell prompt. To recall the screen, type "screen -r" and hit enter. This will recall it again, as if you never closed the window.

Normal practice would be to SSH in using PuTTY, do the "screen ./ptsminer.........." command and then CTRL+A and CTRL+D to minimize it, and then quit PuTTY. The miner will run and you can SSH in and recall it with "screen -r" at any time to check on its status.

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BitShares PTS / Re: [ANN] ptsweb.beeeeer.org - Protoshares mining sub-pool
« on: December 13, 2013, 05:32:58 pm »
The page only is updated after a block is found by the pool. It can take several hours for that to happen.
Exactly this.

Sometimes it can take literally minutes for the balance to update (a new block to be found). Sometimes it can take upwards of 6 hours. As with a lot of cryptocurrency mining - luck of the draw :P And patience!

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BitShares PTS / Re: Anyone else on Ypool experiencing worse mining today?
« on: December 13, 2013, 03:49:54 pm »
Cheers for the info guys

Anyone know how long payouts for Ypool are taking at the moment? Been over 12hours since my automatic payout and the amount disappeared from my Ypool account, still hasn't shown in my wallet though
:/
Payments at ypool has always been patchy. I'd monitor the Chat on their website - jh00 (the pool admin) normally makes known any issues there.

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BitShares PTS / Re: [ANN] ptsweb.beeeeer.org - Protoshares mining sub-pool
« on: December 13, 2013, 02:59:55 pm »
Hi,

http://postimg.org/image/3ssixf76x/


current balance: 0 PTS, when received ?
When the block you are working on gets found, you will receive a payout. It will be a percentage of the total block value, defined by how many shares you have mined. Blocks can take anywhere between 10 minutes and 4 hours to be found - your balance will be updated then.

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BitShares PTS / Re: Mining with ptsminer
« on: December 13, 2013, 02:39:12 pm »
Hello r05,

thanks again for your time. (Donation is on the way).

Hurlie
No problem - much obliged :)

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