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BitShares PTS / Re: Mining with ptsminer
« on: December 13, 2013, 01:43:57 pm »
Great - glad I could be of use :)
One question: What is the meaning of ST?
(0.0 seems to be less.)
I cannot answer that one I'm afraid, I don't know.. ::) Mine is 0.0% on all my miners as well.

Edit: the ST value is how many "stale" shares you have found as a number and a percentage. A stale share is a share that has already been found by another miner. Your share is therefore rejected, as it is the latest of the two identical shares.

Take a look at beeeer.org:

The most recent lines are:

32561 2013-12-13 12:07:59 66 / 94753 -> 0.01510 PTS / 21.68 PTS -> block waiting for confirmations
32557 2013-12-13 11:47:33 281 / 539513 -> 0.01129 PTS / 21.68 PTS -> block waiting for confirmations
32528 2013-12-13 10:01:22 287 / 466340 -> 0.01334 PTS / 21.68 PTS -> block waiting for confirmations
32508 2013-12-13 08:29:59 1111 / 2326746 -> 0.01035 PTS / 21.68 PTS -> block waiting for confirmations

There are only 4 lines in these 4 hours, so for only these lines a got income (when the blocks later are marked as added).

What has happened to all the other "shares" listet in the output of ptsminer.
There are more than 100 in these 4 hours.

Don't they reach beeeeer.org?
Or is the share to small to be added in the pool?

It`s a little bit frustrating.

Another thank for your help
(Dont forget to tell me the amount of the donation)

Hurlie
I think your interpretation of the beer page and how shares work is a bit misled; let me go over briefly how pool mining works with them - it might help fill in a few blanks.

When you get a share, the share is a share of the current round (the current block being worked on). If you get 1 share in a round (and this can happen in very small blocks) then you will get a payout at the end of the round equal to your 1 share. If you get 100 shares in a round, you will get a payout equal to 100 shares and so on. You can earn thousands of shares in a round and the more shares you do earn, the more you get paid. Your shares accumulate through the course of a round and all get added up at the end. Not all your shares will show up in the stats page on beer, only the statistics to do with the current block and how many shares in that block you have earned show up. The shares earned are added up to a total at the end of the round and that total is used to calculate how much PTS you receive. Let's look at one of your lines.

For example:

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32508 2013-12-13 08:29:59 1111 / 2326746 -> 0.01035 PTS / 21.68 PTS -> block waiting for confirmations

This line can be interpreted as follows:

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block-number   date   time   shares earned / total shares -> PTS earned / total PTS -> block status

This line says for block #32508, you earned 1111 shares out of a possible 2326746 in that round. That equates to 0.01035PTS earned out of a possible 21.68 PTS. In other words for block #32508, your miner mined 1111 shares which equals 0.01035PTS. If you earned more shares (with better hardware for example or more computers working) then you would get more overall shares in that round and a higher percentage of the payout.

So in short - the shares you see in the output of ptsminer get added up at the pool and used at the end of a round (when a block is found) to calculate how much PTS you get paid. Just because you don't see hundreds of lines on beer, doesn't mean the shares have gone missing - they are just being added up and displayed differently. Each line on the beer user stats page is a round - not a share. :) From the lines you've pasted, you have actually found 1745 shares across the four blocks. :) Not bad going!

I hope that clears it up for you a little.

With regards to a donation any amount is hugely appreciated. :) A pint of beer in the UK (where I'm from) costs roughly £1.60 which is 0.003BTC and 0.12PTS. :P

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This is a bug in current client, it will be fixed in next update. Right now, close the client and reopen it is the solution.

sry about this.
This is not a solution that works.

Here are some additional nodes:
125.104.78.21:3888
94.174.82.246:3888
118.119.191.83:3888
218.59.222.73:3888
This is!

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BitShares PTS / Re: Mining with ptsminer
« on: December 13, 2013, 11:54:40 am »
What does the output of ptsminer mean?
[MASTER] work received - sharetarget: 03ffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffbeefde4d
This is the notification that work has been downloaded and received from the mining pool. The sharetarget value is the target for that share.

[WORKER] collision found: 1277527 <-> 49057890 @ 44
This is a notification that a collision has been found. I'm not 100% sure on what this means, so I'm not going to explain something to you which is likely wrong. Best to read up on collisions and how they work in cryptocurrency yourself.

[MASTER] submitted share -> SHARE
This is a notification that you have completed a share and have submitted it to the mining pool.

[STATS] 2013-Dec-13 06:50:03 | 4.1 c/m | 0.3 sh/m | VL: 3 (100.0%), RJ: 0 (0.0%)
, ST: 0 (0.0%)
These are indeed statistics about your current mining session. They will be updated as the mining client remains running and are all averages - they are not constantly updated. As a result it may be as long as 24hrs before these values are reliable - note that statistics are for each mining session and do not carry across if the mining client is halted for whatever reason.

The first block is the date/time.

The second block is how many collision per minute you are currently mining at. To give you some idea, my 4 core/8GB VPS on Digital Ocean is doing about 40c/m (so something is amiss in your setup to be only getting 4.1c/m).

The third block is how many shares per minute (on average) you are attaining - remembering that a 'share' is what gets you income from a mining pool.

These two values should be the highest they can be.

The last two values are the amount of shares accepted against the amount of shares rejected (not sure what the acronym VL means, but RJ stands for Rejected). Shares can be rejected for a numer of reasons and obviously this one should remain low (<10%) and the shares accepted value should remain high.

If the [MASTER] says: SHARE.
Shouldn't I see all these these values in beeeer.org?
In beeeer.org there are only 15 added blocks after 3 days. That seems to be to less.
A share is not a block - it is a share of a block. All the miners in the pool work away at the same block and they each get shares, depending on how much work they do. At the end of the block (or 'round') these shares are added up and the total amount of PTS you are entitled to calculated by how many shares you have achieved. For the rate you are mining at, 15 blocks in 3 days sounds about right.

Is it a good choice, to use ptsminer, or are there better miners?
ptsminer is the only miner usable with beeeeer.org at current (afaik). Try the miners listed at http://ptsweb.beeeeer.org/ as there are several versions of the Windows binaries. I use the binaries available here for my Windows boxes: http://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=234.msg9657#msg9657

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BitShares PTS / Re: didn't get any bonus from mining pools.
« on: December 13, 2013, 11:44:26 am »
There's no mining pools for PTS at current that give you a 'bonus' for mining a certain amount, unlike BTC.

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Excellent - nice work :) Looks just the part.

Very nice! If beer had a website of this kind (+ the ability to monitor workers), it would have at least 5 times as many workers.
Personally, I prefer the JSON-style output model. It makes designing scripts to monitor the pool, user stats etc very easy as you can just interpret that block as if it were a standard JSON model. It's easy to assess and digest at a glance too. At least, it is for me :P

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BitShares PTS / Re: [ANN] ptsweb.beeeeer.org - Protoshares mining sub-pool
« on: December 12, 2013, 10:07:34 pm »
Last question about ram influence on mining results. Is it better to use maximum amount? It's obvious to me.. but better asking :D
I've actually got lower performance by using the 1024mb option over the 512mb option. No idea why - there doesn't seem to be any clear correlation to me..

It is because you are above your max RAM amount so your system is using cache to balance.
Sorry, I don't think so - I have a dual core (2 core) system with 8GB of RAM. If I were to use the 512mb option, approximately 1024mb of RAM would be used by the miner. If I were to use the 1024mb option, approximately 2048mb were to be used by the miner. 2048mb is nowhere near the 8192mb of total RAM in my system, so the reason for my performance decrease is not that my system is using page/swap. :)

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BitShares PTS / Re: [ANN] ypool.net - Fast PTS pool
« on: December 12, 2013, 02:15:11 pm »

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BitShares PTS / Re: Anyone have a x64 Windows build?
« on: December 12, 2013, 10:11:48 am »
It is probably worth noting this thread was started 6 days after launch when it was still viable to solo mine, not sure why it was trawled up tbh?
Just seen this myself - lol

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BitShares PTS / Re: jhProtominer - CPU and collisions/min charts
« on: December 12, 2013, 12:25:43 am »
What are "collision per minute" ... I'm use to hashes per second.

Also, does anyone know how to install this on linux and run?

Thanks for any pointers. These new alt coin forums are sometimes a bit scattered.
Taken from this thread: https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=722.0

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sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get install yasm -y git make g++ build-essential libminiupnpc-dev
sudo apt-get install -y libboost-all-dev libdb++-dev libgmp-dev libssl-dev dos2unix

git clone https://github.com/thbaumbach/ptsminer
cd ~/ptsminer/src
make -f makefile.unix
./ptsminer <your PTS address> <number of threads>
Unsure of what "Linux" you need instructions for, but the above works flawlessly on most Ubuntu 13.04LTS VPS instances.

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BitShares PTS / Re: Anyone have a x64 Windows build?
« on: December 12, 2013, 12:22:47 am »
Protoshares-qt (default client) is for solo mining.

You may consider to check at least the following miners: ptsminer and jhProtominer
They are already compiled for 64-bit and CPU optimization (avx / sse4).

Note: If you still want to stick with the default client, check this optimization => https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=332704.0
This.

It is ill advised to use the protoshars-qt application for PTS mining. Infact, solo mining is soon to be unsupported as the developers are looking to push a "pool-only" mining scheme.

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BitShares PTS / Re: mining hardware help
« on: December 11, 2013, 10:35:33 pm »
Processor == AMD fx8350  8 cores == ~$180
8 gb ram cosair ~ $35
Motherboard of your choice wit at least 4 pcie slots ~ $80
Cooling for the CPU  ~$20
Power supply 1000w ~$ 200
SSD 60 GB ~ $60
Powercolor R9 280x ~$300

total 875 

i think it'll mine your PTS and a scrypt coin for you nicely
Correct me if I'm wrong but we can't currently mine PTS with a GPU? The Powercolor - as nice a GPU as it is - would be wasted in this setup.

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BitShares PTS / Re: Protoshares Ubuntu 13.10 problem
« on: December 11, 2013, 10:19:01 pm »
I think you are using a droplet with too little resources available. The guide calls for an 8 core/4GB droplet whereas you are using a 512mb droplet (I daresay the 1 core, $5 p/month one).

There are known issues running the PTS miner on this droplet - I haven't found a solution yet. I would delete it and use the 2GB/2 core droplet or the 8GB/4 core droplet that the guide calls for.
Thats really unfortunate... They won't give me a refund, would they
No, but it sounds like you are using Digital Ocean. Digital Ocean charge per hour, not per month - so if you have had your droplet up and running for an hour, they will only charge you for that hour. You can freely create/delete droplets and have them run against the credit in your account, so you should have lost very little in terms of money..
I did not know about that. Thanks!
No problem

As I see you are using yvg1900 miner, and it is going out of memory.

If you want to play around, use 256M version with 1 thread.

yvg1900
Listen to this man. He did, after all, develop the miner ;)

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BitShares PTS / Re: Protoshares Ubuntu 13.10 problem
« on: December 11, 2013, 09:59:31 pm »
I think you are using a droplet with too little resources available. The guide calls for an 8 core/4GB droplet whereas you are using a 512mb droplet (I daresay the 1 core, $5 p/month one).

There are known issues running the PTS miner on this droplet - I haven't found a solution yet. I would delete it and use the 2GB/2 core droplet or the 8GB/4 core droplet that the guide calls for.
Thats really unfortunate... They won't give me a refund, would they
No, but it sounds like you are using Digital Ocean. Digital Ocean charge per hour, not per month - so if you have had your droplet up and running for an hour, they will only charge you for that hour. You can freely create/delete droplets and have them run against the credit in your account, so you should have lost very little in terms of money..

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BitShares PTS / Re: Protoshares Ubuntu 13.10 problem
« on: December 11, 2013, 09:53:49 pm »
I think you are using a droplet with too little resources available. The guide calls for an 8 core/4GB droplet whereas you are using a 512mb droplet (I daresay the 1 core, $5 p/month one).

There are known issues running the PTS miner on this droplet - I haven't found a solution yet. I would delete it and use the 2GB/2 core droplet or the 8GB/4 core droplet that the guide calls for. Besides being a better performer (a 1 core droplet would seriously struggle to bring in any sort of PTS) I don't think the capabilities of the 1 core droplet can run the miner at all. :-\

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BitShares PTS / Re: [ANN] ptsweb.beeeeer.org - Protoshares mining sub-pool
« on: December 11, 2013, 09:51:07 pm »
Looks like I can't connect to 54.201.26.128 at this location. Any work around for this?
54.201.26.128 doesn't respond to pings at my location, either. Odd, because it's definitely up (miners are connecting and getting/submitting work off-site at current). Likeliness is the system the pool is sat on is just setup to reject ICMP echo requests and rather not that the server is down.

Have you tried running a miner against it, or is it just not responding to a standard ping?

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