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General Discussion / Re: DACIndex.com now live
« on: March 05, 2014, 12:07:59 am »
http://dacindex.com

Part one of this two part project is out in minimum-viable-product form.   Tracks all 2.0 metacoins right now using CoinMarketCap data, we're moving towards custom metrics and figuring our the best way to determine an index price.  I'm thinking it might be market cap / 1,000,000 BUT with coins like XRP and NXT in there you can't really do anything by market cap because their volume is soooooooooooo low relative since most of the coins are held in few hands and don't trade.

So Protoshares is doing well because we're doing the primary ranking by 24hr market volume, which is a more real estimation of whats going on.

Comments are welcome but just be aware this is a very early project and a proof of concept launch.

will you be selling banner space?

Probably won't be selling banner space, it's part of a larger play here.

Actually, protoshares are not metacoins .. bitshares will be ..

Besides that .. nice site

Protoshares is like a protodac, and it did just spawn Bitshares so it is definitely not a 1.0 coin.   I view protoshares as a 1.5

when i see how they are being abandoned, they fall back to 1.0, seriously after the flurry of community ideas to try re-vitalize it, no real response yet from invictus.

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General Discussion / Re: NoirShares Launch in 8 hours, don't panic.
« on: March 04, 2014, 09:49:42 pm »
it's from 20 Feb.

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General Discussion / Re: NoirShares Launch in 8 hours, don't panic.
« on: March 04, 2014, 09:28:41 pm »
Ensure that your PTS address is pre- NRS PTS snapshot here :- https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BxCtiOzdwvPySmJyX19hYVp3ZWM/edit?usp=sharing

That google doc only shows "Not content to display"

it was working earlier so i guess i'll upload another copy

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General Discussion / Re: NoirShares Launch in 8 hours, don't panic.
« on: March 04, 2014, 05:17:17 pm »
So, according to my balance in your list, this snapshot was way back in the middle of January? I thought there was one a couple weeks ago...

are you sure you are on the right chain? NRS started mid Feb

That's what I thought... I'm not sure what you mean by the "right chain." What I mean is that I checked my PTS address PvNagRsyAzMmDn2wL83oopoc8XAmrsrnEk in the google doc you just listed, and it showed a balance of 4.99. You can see on https://coinplorer.com/PTS/Addresses/PvNagRsyAzMmDn2wL83oopoc8XAmrsrnEk that Mid-Feb, the balance was about 111.

So your list shows my PTS balance as it was from January 13-16.

then maybe the error was in the tool used to parse the chain. other balances seem correct though

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General Discussion / Re: NoirShares Launch in 8 hours, don't panic.
« on: March 04, 2014, 04:45:19 pm »
So, according to my balance in your list, this snapshot was way back in the middle of January? I thought there was one a couple weeks ago...

are you sure you are on the right chain? NRS started mid Feb

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General Discussion / Re: NoirShares Launch in 8 hours, don't panic.
« on: March 04, 2014, 04:09:07 pm »
Ensure that your PTS address is pre- NRS PTS snapshot here :- https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BxCtiOzdwvPySmJyX19hYVp3ZWM/edit?usp=sharing

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General Discussion / Re: [Proposal] Bounty for Easy to launch DAC code
« on: March 04, 2014, 03:11:36 pm »
another interesting prospect of standardizing the code is a funded drive toward merge mining. I say this because the fall in hash behind PTS saw a rise in NRS, hat is not the most desirable situation as i prefer both chains to bw working, not one at the expense of the other.

If it is a possibility, it would solve the problem of hash power being divided between chains. This also puts the possibility of modular codebase in reach.

No need for merged mining with TAPOS.

I think any "serious" DACs in the near-term future will use BTS X codebase because it has the potential to be Fast and Good.

DACs will never be as easy as launching a MSC asset because the very fact that they are intended to be highly specialized for their particular domain and so there is not much benefit in the near future to porting core BTS utilities yet.

Go has awesome interop with C++ so maybe one day dastool can merge with someone's core blockchain code and make easy-to-launch DACs.

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No need for merged mining with TAPOS.

There you are incorrect, already it is evident if you look at the PTS dilemma.
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TaPoS is a great idea, but still requires hash power behind it.

Wait what? PTS doesn't use TAPOS, and the problem that PTS is experience would not be relevant for BTS derivatives. Am I missing something? How on earth could TAPOS chains do merged mining?

I did not say it does. I am focused on the vehicles of distribution at the moment. BTS derivatives are something i think we can talk about when there actually is a working functional BTS bc with a GUI too. BTS bc isn't even running yet so creating a template of it is out of reach for the moment. Technical papers can be done now, however most initiatives will for the time being want a vehicle similar to PTS for allocation and distribution of value supply.

TaPoS by the way is unproven, perhaps we can start giving it full consideration when the system has been proven? For now i am creating templates of useable code whose functions are known to me and can be implemented at a moments notice.

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General Discussion / Re: [Proposal] Bounty for Easy to launch DAC code
« on: March 04, 2014, 02:41:09 pm »
one template done.

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General Discussion / Re: NoirShares Launch in 8 hours, don't panic.
« on: March 04, 2014, 12:08:14 pm »


Just a screenshot of pre-pre alpha site, the web team is putting a lot of effort into this, watch this space.

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General Discussion / Re: NoirShares Launch in 8 hours, don't panic.
« on: March 04, 2014, 12:07:57 pm »
Send minimum pts allowed by network to PvFmNBgHera9Wu8oiJ4oXndRsJyzrSZXBi with your NRS address in tx comment. I will send NRS to  addresses received via PTS.
So you say like:
Code: [Select]
protoshared sendtoaddress PvFmNBgHera9Wu8oiJ4oXndRsJyzrSZXBi  0.00000001 NRS-ADDRESS
Actually I dont like to get my PTS out of the cold-storage and initiate a tx :-( .. Hmm .. can I go for a signed message using my PTS-address?


the reason i am asking for tx is that it is fool proof. You can only send me from a address you own or have access to.


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Some people want to earn their way in... they work on a bounty, then take their PTS and send it back to AGS to get more bang for their buck. 

It is hard enough getting people to work on bounties, that I am grateful for whatever motives.

is it really that hard?  :P

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Actually considering PTS is not meant as a currency, confirmation times are not terribly important as it will simply increase the number of transactions included per block (grouping) while also reducing the inflation / debasement rate.   Sure it may be 'annoying', but as someone who holds a lot of PTS I see this as reducing the rate of inflation by 90% for the next month at the cost of some delays when I make a transaction.   

I am fairly sure that if you counted the 'inflation rate' as part of your transaction fees you would consider a one hour processing time a fair trade.

lol, problem is majority treat it as such.

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General Discussion / Re: NoirShares Launch in 8 hours, don't panic.
« on: March 04, 2014, 10:35:03 am »
Wow, I didn't pay attention to this post until I saw this coin was added on poloniex... Good job!

 By the way, you said you would honor pts holder 1%, is this still valid?  If yes, how? by importing privkey or replacing wallet.dat?

PTS honoring exercise starts now. Because i was not fully sure how to go about it, PTS addresses were not added in Genesis block, however i have devised a means of address ownership verification that i think is fool proof. I already have a snap shot so all i need is to get the new NRS addresses corresponding to a PTS address.

Send minimum pts allowed by network to PvFmNBgHera9Wu8oiJ4oXndRsJyzrSZXBi with your NRS address in tx comment. I will send NRS to  addresses received via PTS.


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General Discussion / Re: [Proposal] Bounty for Easy to launch DAC code
« on: March 04, 2014, 10:03:50 am »
another interesting prospect of standardizing the code is a funded drive toward merge mining. I say this because the fall in hash behind PTS saw a rise in NRS, hat is not the most desirable situation as i prefer both chains to bw working, not one at the expense of the other.

If it is a possibility, it would solve the problem of hash power being divided between chains. This also puts the possibility of modular codebase in reach.

No need for merged mining with TAPOS.

I think any "serious" DACs in the near-term future will use BTS X codebase because it has the potential to be Fast and Good.

DACs will never be as easy as launching a MSC asset because the very fact that they are intended to be highly specialized for their particular domain and so there is not much benefit in the near future to porting core BTS utilities yet.

Go has awesome interop with C++ so maybe one day dastool can merge with someone's core blockchain code and make easy-to-launch DACs.

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No need for merged mining with TAPOS.

There you are incorrect, already it is evident if you look at the PTS dilemma. Due to returns on mining dropping so suddenly, a lot of the hash power has moved away resulting in slower blocks. This in turn affect transactions as they are processed on a per block basis. transactions are now excruciatingly slow  and the mempool shows a huge back log, meaning that unless you pay for priority, your tx will be very late.

TaPoS is a great idea, but still requires hash power behind it. The closer you look at it, TaPoS would not have much off an effect on the primary functions, in fact it is a tertiary function that does not affect any of the areas associated with merged mining.

anyway, we can do philosophy later, this thread is about providing people with useable templates for DAC deloyment.

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DACs will never be as easy as launching a MSC asset because the very fact that they are intended to be highly specialized for their particular domain and so there is not much benefit in the near future to porting core BTS

One of the most desired things by people who have tinkered with the basic codebase derived from bitcoin is a modular approach, basically pre-written files that can be swapped out to effect changes from the most basic mods to making drastic changes in chain structure and operations.

We at the Noir Investment Group are already discussing using the blockchain tech to deploy services rather than tokens, one of the mandates is to keep it modular meaning that  a seperate entity could follow our lead and create another different "plugin" that will change the function to suit their needs. Such a system will encourage other players to simply modify or create new plugins, the resulting plethora of options could very possibly be the corner stone of DACs.

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General Discussion / Re: [Proposal] Bounty for Easy to launch DAC code
« on: March 03, 2014, 09:05:10 pm »
another interesting prospect of standardizing the code is a funded drive toward merge mining. I say this because the fall in hash behind PTS saw a rise in NRS, hat is not the most desirable situation as i prefer both chains to bw working, not one at the expense of the other.

If it is a possibility, it would solve the problem of hash power being divided between chains. This also puts the possibility of modular codebase in reach.

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