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Technical Support / Re: !!! Stupid Questions Thread !!!
« on: March 30, 2016, 03:38:51 pm »
wow. screwed up the spelling on that. I remember NXT used to have a place where I sent BTC to an address and then the exchange happened behind the scenes and I just magically had NXT. Does Bitshares have something like that?

Yes. In my first reply to you I explained just that. That is the "Bridge" feature you can find in the bitshares wallet, on Deposit/Withdraw. In the Top Menu choose "METAEXCHANGE", Bridge -> BTS -> Deposit

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Technical Support / Re: !!! Stupid Questions Thread !!!
« on: March 30, 2016, 03:33:31 pm »
Bhuz,
Thanks for your help. Somehow I have 1000 BTS on Poloniex. I think it might be because I had some old kind of Bitshares (Proto shares or something like that). I see how to withdraw on Poloniex but I don't see how to deposit on Bitshares. I go tot Deposit/Withdraw and BTS isn't even an option.

When you withdraw from poloniex, you only need to use your bitshares account-name as address!

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Technical Support / Re: !!! Stupid Questions Thread !!!
« on: March 30, 2016, 02:57:38 pm »
Thanks for your help. I still got an error message. I tried to buy 1000 BTS but it says I don't have enough to pay the fee. I set up to pay the fee in OPEN:BTC but the confirmation page says I need .146 or so BTS. I tried to paste a screen shot but I can't seem to do it in this forum.

what is your bitshares account name? i will send you some bts

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Technical Support / Re: !!! Stupid Questions Thread !!! - HELP!
« on: March 30, 2016, 02:46:48 pm »
Please Help. I can't do anything on Bitshares because I don't have BTS. I tried to make a trade and it wouldn't let me even though I used the option to pay the fee in OPEN:BTC. Now I can't even withdraw my BTC. I bought BTS on Bter but it won't let me withdraw it to fund my Bitshares account. Any help you could give me would be greatly appreciated. At this point I'm pretty frustrated by the whole thing and would just like to get my BTC out. Thanks.
-Brett

Welcome tdboston,
sorry to hear this bad first experience!

Let's see...

First let's try again to buy some BTS with your OPEN.BTC:
go to the BTS : OPEN.BTC market here -> https://bitshares.openledger.info/#/market/BTS_OPEN.BTC
Instead of using all of yours open.btc, try to make a buy with only half of it, using open.btc as fee too. (I suggest to use only half of your btc to be sure that you have enough to both buy bts and pay for the fee)

About Bter...Bter is not really trading BTS 2.0
You should not trust or leave any funds into that exchange IMO.
The best thing you can do now, is sell back the bts you bought on bter, and use those btc to buy bts in another exchange.

Once you have your btc back on bter, you can send them to poloniex and buy real bts there. Or you can even more easily use the "Bridge" option in the Bitshares wallet.

Open the bitshares wallet, go into your account page, in the left menu go into Deposit/Withdraw, in the Top Menu choose Blocktrades or Metaexchange (the latter atm has a better price), and in the "Bridge" section click on Deposit.

How does this Bridge works?
Basically you send your bitcoin to the address they give you, and they will credit your account with BTS! You can see the current conversion they will use for it.

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General Discussion / Re: About workers: 1.14.35/36Fund to pay dividend
« on: March 30, 2016, 12:11:36 am »
So your idea of coin days would only really increase the central exchanges voting power!

Actually I think not, because in that case I assume many "shareholders" would move their coins from centralized exchanges to their own accounts so their cold wallets amounts would significant decrease... perhaps slowly but they would (depended on how fast shareholders get "educated" and... convinced)
Why would they move their bts if they are not doing it now? If they really care about voting they would already move their funds back. It is clear that most users don't really care about voting, no matter the increased power the coin days could bring them.

Edit: the point is "educating" them, as you said; not change the rules and voting mechanics

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General Discussion / Re: About workers: 1.14.35/36Fund to pay dividend
« on: March 29, 2016, 10:21:11 pm »
This idea of changing the voting mechanics is only another overreact against a currently non-issue, since all workers are still active.

Instead of focusing on attacking yunbi and whoever support the anti-dilution ideas, why don't you guys try to bring more knowledge and awareness to those who
1) don't vote, directly or indirectly
2) trade on centralized exchange instead of using the dex
3) leave their bts on centralized exchange for a very long time, way more than the time needed for "just" buy and sell
4) ask some proxies to review their current vote (jakub(21M) is voting only for 2 of 6 development-worker; fav(12M) could remove his support to refund-1 plus is voting only for 1 development-worker; clayop (5M) could remove his support to refund-3; mindphlux(5M) could remove support from refund-1; and so on)

You guys are always so ready to attack these "anti-dilution gang" and name them "irrational" "stupid" "nonsense" "bts destroyer" and so on... The reality is just that they are normal people as all fo you, that only thinks differently then you are. They have different views on what is best for bitshares. That's all.

So please, focus on the real problem and on real solution, without overreacting all the time.

About this coind/days vothing thing. Just look here:
http://cryptofresh.com/u/poloniexcoldstorage
http://cryptofresh.com/u/btc38-public-for-bts-cold

poloniex cold wallet (420M) last movement  --> more than 2 months ago!
btc38 cold wallet (360M) last movement       --> never moved funds! almosth 5 months!

So your idea of coin days would only really increase the central exchanges voting power!

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I read through his last 100 posts in the forum.. did you? Didn't think so.

This is the white washing I am talking about.. his own actions and words are clear as day.

Alt has shown no discernment whatsoever in his voting against workers... as he stated in his post. Both his actions and his words have integrity with the latest statement of 'fuck bitshares workers' he made on the blockchain.

Your analysis is more like lipstick on a pig.

It is what it is.

Not only I read his posts (since I read this forum), but I also understand his motivations.
You clearly fails in the latter

And beware: "understanding" not necessarily means "supporting"

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Where is the public statement put out by Yunbi that they are going to be handling BTS funds this way from now on?
Where is the public statement put out by Yunbi that they are NOT going to do whatever they want with the stake they actually own as a centralized exchange?

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Given their current position and volume with Ethereum though, they could care less what we or their holders think. If it serves their Ethereum trade business, then the consequences are minimal in the short sighted outlook of things. Perhaps it is in preparation of a chinese fork of bitshares if you really want to get conspiracy theory on it all.
I don't understand this point about eth.

Plus, negative votes are out, so if we want to be precise, they are not voting against other workers. They are supporting the refund worker, meaning that worker that would prevent abuse from others potentially bad-acting-workers.

Instead of focusing against yunbi and attacking people, we all should encourage people to vote with their stake, trade on the DEX and so on...

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setup proxy to baozi if you are anti-dilution

this account will against all dilution workers without reason,
so please remove this proxy if you feel it's time to dilution to support those workers.
and don't try to persuade this account change the votes,
you should persuade those persons who set this account as proxy.

Bolded WITHOUT REASON.

You are welcome to look through all his forum posts prior to this all the way to the beginning of the year... not once was the idea of the market cap brought up by alt as his reasoning.

Alt has said fuck bitshares worker.. vote against without reason... don't try to whitewash the reality of his actions or postioning with what we would hope to be nice or reasonable intentions.. it's not.. it's without reason as he himself as stated.. to 'fuck bitshares worker'.

The anti-dilution movement is fueled by this 'without reason' thinking.... we can try and apply all the weak reasoning ideas we can come up with.. but at the end of the day it all amounts to nothing but wishful thinking in the hopes that those perpetrating it are doing it out of some semblance of rational/reasonable/good intentions which is directly contradictory to their own words and actions.

IMO, that "without reason" is clearly intended versus the workers, not for his motivation!

IMO, he is not saying that he votes without reason against all workers, BUT that he votes against those workers that (according to his motivations) have no "reason to be there"/"are not needed"

Plus, directly or indirectly, Alt has stated his motivation more than once. If you and other do not understand his points, is only your fault since you don't really want to carefull read and try to understand others people's positions.

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While we may not think it's a good idea to have exchanges vote, you could also argue that as long as the exchange accounts are public and we know who they're voting for, anyone keeping their funds in that exchange implicitly agrees to their votes. If they do not agree they should move their funds elsewhere.

You can't really expect Yunbi's users who hold BTS to know exactly what is going on.  For all they know, they are just trading a cryptocurrency.  So unless Yunbi is informing their users about this very controversial action, then they are acting in an extremely unethical manner and should pay a serious price.

Users should know very well that as soon as they move their BTS to an external exchange, they do not really own their BTS anymore and do not have any voting power or control on what their stake is used for.

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I'll have to share the info and name of the asset rather soon for reviewing the texts but I don't want someone to spend a bad joke on me a register the smartcoin asset name before I'm ready to create it.
So I'm thinking about create the smartcoin with the basic setting and all the permissions ON. So when I'm ready to launch it properly, I'll just have to tweak the settings and disable the permissions I don't want. That way, the smartcoin name is reserved and can speak freely about it and show the website under construction if needed.
Am I right to suppose that it's the good way to go ? I just fear to create the smartcoin with an irreversible setting. If I understand it well, if all the permission are allowed, it shouldn't be the case ... ? ... Right ? Guys ?

Sounds like the way to go. How I understand it, once something is disabled it can't be reabled. Is this right?

If you disable a permission, you can not enable it back again.
If you only disable a flag, you can enable it back.

So, until you are 100% sure, just keep all permissions enabled

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General Discussion / Re: alt appreciation thread
« on: March 28, 2016, 10:26:12 am »
So what made alt to go crazy and instead of improving Bitshares to attacking it?
What makes you say he went crazy and attacked Bitshares?? Enough with the innuendo and personal attacks already...

He has been voting for stopping all development since February. That is very clear attack against Bitshares in my mind. He hasn't even bothered to explain why he is doing it.

He certainly has explained why: like wildpig says he believes the current marketcap is too low to support dilution at the current rates. Clearly quite a few people agree with him since he's not only the proxy with the most votes behind him (by a large margin), but also the proxy with the second most accounts behind him.

He's not crazy just because you don't agree, and resorting to name-calling and personal attacks will only serve to alienate him and his supporters even more. Hell, I'm a worker myself but I tend to agree with him.. Now Data has been insinuating that alt is behind the recent "dividend" worker, but there's no evidence to that effect and as you may have noticed alt is NOT voting for that worker.

 +5% +5% +5%

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General Discussion / Re: Can someone help test this new API server?
« on: March 27, 2016, 02:18:17 am »
Can you help test "wss://valen-tin.fr:8090/ws" which is provided by @linouxis9, located in France?

Feedback needed.

If all OK we should add it to default server list.

working to me.

i will test again tomorrow

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General Discussion / Re: New open ledger lifetime membership
« on: March 27, 2016, 02:11:04 am »
hi and thanks,
(ive got a long way to go yet haha)

yes the client

i am hoping its just a setting switch somewhere, but i'm damned if i can find it..

ctrl-c and ctrl+v

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Next LiveCoding Session will be on Wednesday 23th at
3:00 pm CET
2:00 pm UTC
10:00 am EDT
https://plus.google.com/events/c00c6qjv9gceejpqnftntoqjvb0

@Bhuz: The session will again be recorded so you can watch it any time.

Thank you!  +5%

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