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General Discussion / Re: Yet Another Price Feed Mod
« on: March 13, 2015, 02:33:24 pm »
I'm getting a "unknown error - yahoo" now when I run the script. Anyone else getting this?

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My test withdrawal of 500 BTS is hanging at "processing" for 6-7 hours now...anybody had any withdrawals of BTS go through?

6 hour ago is nearly midnight in China, they probably sleeping now I guess

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General Discussion / Re: bter Had reopened
« on: March 12, 2015, 07:02:07 pm »
I would withdraw all monies and not deposit anything more, until BTER can provide the police report of the last hack. The police report can nearly prove that BTER hack was not an inside job, since if it was, they might be too afraid to file a police report.

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https://twitter.com/btercom/status/574946304075264004
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We are deploying our new trading system with the safest ever cold wallet solution. we will finish it in 24-48 hours.

heh, so why didn't they implement this "safest ever cold wallet solution" before the hack. Only took them less than 2 weeks to develop this.

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General Discussion / Re: Dividend feature timeline?
« on: March 08, 2015, 02:35:50 pm »
The challenge is that the single operation is "unbounded" in the number of accounts it would have to credit.   If there are 1M people that need to receive the dividend then that single operation could take a very long time to apply and that would disrupt the flow of the network.

Recognizing this as something that would be nice to automate I will think about it.  It is not on our current issue list on github though.

I feel it's an essential feature in order for Bitshares to operate as an asset exchange market.

Dividends are essentially outside money regularly flowing into Bitshares (ie. when AAPL pays cash dividends, I'm forced to buy BitUSD with the cash and distribute to my investors, this will significantly help the valuation of BTS price.)

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General Discussion / Re: Dividend feature timeline?
« on: March 08, 2015, 02:33:25 am »
So in the Bitshares client, I would need a function that says "issue dividend", I enter the total amount and currency type (ie. BitUSD), then Bitshares blockchain deducts my BitUSD balance etc.., and sends this amount proportionately to all the investors of my "APPLE" asset investor in a single transaction.
You can emulate this feature by share dropping on your asset owners if you can identify them.
How about this proposal?
https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=14288.0

These all seem to be describing the same thing, which is the ability the construct a set of transactions that will distribute a pool of assets proportionally among the holders of a specified UIA. Am I correct?

Yes, preferably all in a single transaction, so the asset issuer only have to pay the transaction fee once. Otherwise transaction fee could add up quickly.

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General Discussion / Re: Dividend feature timeline?
« on: March 08, 2015, 01:54:23 am »
Paying dividend is a challenge in Bitshares UIA because you don't know who is holding the shares.

If there is a new command to list all the accounts that hold specific UIA with owner authentication then dividend is possible.
The owner will create another UIA like bitDividend and make a share dropping or pay bitUSD directly.

I thought non-TITAN transaction are going to be a thing?

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General Discussion / Re: Dividend feature timeline?
« on: March 08, 2015, 12:23:02 am »
You can emulate this feature by share dropping on your asset owners if you can identify them.

In addition, a different way of providing a similar feature is to offer a buy back price for your asset which reflects your profits - so you buy back higher than you sold.

Buy back isn't the same as paying a dividend.

Not sure what's share dropping, I'd rather not maintain my own list of asset owners, since I can make mistakes, but the blockchain won't.

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General Discussion / Re: Dividend feature timeline?
« on: March 07, 2015, 09:46:38 pm »
Please describe the feature; I don't think I am familiar with this.

Basically, if I sell a user asset called for example "APPLE" as a pass thru to the AAPL stock on nasdaq, so that foreign investors (ie. from China) can invest in the US company "Apple Inc".

Then when AAPL pay me a quarterly dividend, I would also need to pay a dividend to the investors of my user asset.

So in the Bitshares client, I would need a function that says "issue dividend", I enter the total amount and currency type (ie. BitUSD), then Bitshares blockchain deducts my BitUSD balance etc.., and sends this amount proportionately to all the investors of my "APPLE" asset investor in a single transaction.

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General Discussion / Dividend feature timeline?
« on: March 07, 2015, 06:13:32 pm »
When will dividend feature be activated for user assets? I plan to run some passthru assets, and would need an easy way to pay regular dividend to investors.

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How can they re-enable trading without reimbursing all customers who lost funds first?

It seems that re-enabling trading is their only hope of creating some funds with which to pay back customer losses.

Its unclear whether they lost all their BTC or just a significant portion of it.  If they lost say, 50% of their BTC, then they could put the other 50% of BTC back into customer accounts after repairing the security flaws, and allow trading/withdrawals.

I'm pretty sure that wouldn't be acceptable for the vast majority of users. Isn't it quite likely disgruntled users will form a class action lawsuit against them, forcing them to sell off their assets to cover their customer's losses?

Well, China doesn't have "class action lawsuit", you'll have to do it individually.

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Bter.com tweet https://twitter.com/btercom/status/573043042329882624
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Sorry for the long wait. We will solve the security issue completely and get all altcoins online and enable the withdrawals in a week.

Edit: added 'quotes'

Altcoins yes. What about Bitcoins?

They lost ALL their Bitcoin, hot+cold wallet. What do you expect? Bitcoin balances are totally screwed. Only your altcoin balance is safe (IF they keep their promise of allow altcoin withdrawals in a week).

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中文 (Chinese) / Re: 继续问问题了,谢谢各位!
« on: March 03, 2015, 05:03:40 pm »
必须已注册b。

a.b是b的子账户。

据我所知账户删不掉,你可以创建新钱包,然后只把你想要的账户导入进去,然后把旧钱包丢掉。

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DevShares / Re: Stuck in block 381500
« on: March 03, 2015, 04:24:58 pm »
Yes, same here, if I start from scratch, I end up stuck on 381500.

I actually backed up my blocks previously, and if I load from backup, I'm stuck on 468912.

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中文 (Chinese) / Re: BTS的极限总量是多少啊?
« on: February 27, 2015, 02:54:21 am »
37亿,不过目前貌似burn rate只比inflation rate稍慢,总量增长很缓慢。

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