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When pitching to potential BitShares companies I'm often referring to the existing players already signed-up. Banx, Peak Venture, CCEDK, DSN etc.

Is 'Network members' a good way to label them?
It does not suggest ownership over the platform and sounds cooperative.

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https://www.altquick.co/buy-2.php?coin=BITUSD

Altquick is the same company as bitquick, but they use shapeshift integration to enable cash purchase of any listed altcoins on shapeshift, including BitShares and bitUSD.
The wonder of crypto

It's a P2P system so depends on the rates set by sellers, but the lowest is a 1.5% fee

Is this common knowledge?
How competitive is 1.5% for paying online vs Paypal, debit, credit or bitcoin?
If their service is available in Greece (they do SEPA online transfers, not sure about cash) then wouldn't this be a good way to recommend they transfer wealth outside the country?
Teenagers without a credit card can now buy things online easily with cash.

A 1.5% 'haircut' to a stable asset that can't be confiscated could be an easier sell than 'buy bitcoin!!!!'

What can the community do with this information to help BitShares adoption?

(I am not affiliated to bitquick or altquick, I just think it's cool)

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http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/3cozz4/im_brad_griffith_ceo_of_gametime_gametimecoapp/

Can someone jump in and pitch bitshares?
The CEO is replying, and it's public exposure

http://gametime.co/
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Last minute tickets at unbeatable prices.

All on your phone.

It's a small live AMA and a bitshares community presence will get noticed

https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/3cozz4/im_brad_griffith_ceo_of_gametime_gametimecoapp/csxo8tg

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General Discussion / Decentralized Uber to incentivize Hitchhiking
« on: July 05, 2015, 01:18:23 pm »
My crypto-noob friend just sent me some ideas he has to increase the prevalence and safety of hitchhiking and asked me how crypto could help.

I've taken his idea and added appropriate use of crypto.

Can you guys help us flesh it out?
I'm thinking Open Bazaar (arbitration) + Uber (P2P taxi) + BitShares 2.0 (contract enforcement and referral income)

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It's about hitchhiking. I’m afraid these are only the first few ideas and they are a little sporadic but I hope it makes sense. Tell me what you think, whether it’s viable.
Two main problems causing hitchhiking to die out: fear of hitchhikers, car owners not appreciating free-loaders. This plan will reduce the free-loading aspect, and indirectly reduce the fear.

So the hitchhiker (HH) pays a small monthly or yearly fee to the Company (decentralised network; pool of money) and in return gets an ID card and a plaque with logo to hold up to oncoming cars. This will mean that the HH will be identified as a person willing to pay for lifts and is less likely to be a threat.

The car owner (CO) signs up their car for free and in exchange for giving the HH a lift they will be paid for the journey from the money pooled by the HHs - there could be several ways of enforcing this but, for example, the CO could say they gave a lift to HH from a to b, and once the HH has confirmed this the CO gets paid the appropriate amount. This transaction is then confirmed in the same way that all crypto-currency transactions are confirmed.
A program can gather information on the average fuel prices for the specific day and calculate the required amount of money to give the CO based on weight of car, average weight of a person, distance of travel, age of car etc – not an extremely complex program, definitely achievable.

The CO displays a sticker on the inside of the windscreen so that the HH can see – this way the HH can mark down COs which don’t pick people up (can identify car by number plate) – works a bit like a penalty system, so for example if the CO gets 10 crosses then they have to pay a fine, or some such. This is a less-well formed idea, it’s difficult because sometimes COs won’t be able to pick up HHs for reasonable explanations, so there needs to be a little bit of a margin.

The demand exists - HH'ers gonna hitchhike.
The supply exists, for the right price. There must be compensation for the risk and time involved in giving lifts.
HH'ing is already MUCH cheaper than conventional travel.
I suppose that HH will be willing to pay UP TO ~50% of the would-be train fare, instead to the CO.
I also suppose that HH will want to incentivise and reward CO's to stay long term members, increasing the supply of CO and reducing the wait time for HH.

The problem to be solved is enforcement, and the CO must be compensated for the effort of collection and earn a (small) profit to incentivise joining the system.
A joining deposit could be paid by the CO and held in escrow (decentralised, no one could possible defraud it).
This deposit (hereafter 'Collateral') will be returned at the request of the user, with a small penalty if CO has given <1 lifts.
To encourage long term membership, the HH's contribute to a HH-pool which is used to pay for lifts and to pay an interest rate to long term CO members, given that they have not withdrawn their collateral.
I'm not sure how socialising the HH-pool will work, why would I pay any less than minimum? Unless there are charities or advertisers who would contribute in excess, in order to achieve some ancillary benefit. Goodwill amongst travellers for example.

Decentralised ID management is coming, third parties will soon be able to credit ID documents (privately) and then vouch that the user is who they say they are/has no criminal record etc - but without revealing the personal-info itself.
Companies will stake their reputation on ID documents they vouch for.

The use of QR codes linked to the HH and the CO could be scanned to sign a 'transaction' that specifies the terms of the lift.
'CO123 gave you, HH456 a lift of 200 miles, at current prices costing £40+ £10 compensation. Do you agree? Y or N'

A signature from both parties (unforgable) pays the specified amount, or a dispute leads to arbitration of some kind.
Every 'transaction' holds an arbitration-fee, if a dispute arises the fee is auto-paid to an arbitrator to solve the dispute.
The arbitrator profits from honest dispute resolution and will lose business if caught acting with bias.
This journey-transaction could even be negotiated at point of pickup, with fees paid in stages. Eg they agree to a journey of 200miles, but after every 50 it will ask both users to tap 'yes' to continue the journey, and partial payment is completed.
These terms would allow CO to mitigate HH who would bail before payment.

Any ideas?

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FYI, after every successful resync (after failure) and confirming that all is well, I close the bts client and navigate to the folder where the chain is stored and copy it to an external harddrive.
In case of a failure, I immediately close the client (which is attempting to redownload the entire chain from scratch) and go to this externally saved folder and then copy it back into the bts client folder.
When I reload it again, it should be synced back to the same point at which you saved/backed up the folder previously.

FOR WINDOWS:
1. Have fully synced client running. Check all is well, then close the client.
2. Open the start menu, and search
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%appdata%
3. When the folder opens, go to Roaming (you may already be in this folder straight from %appdata%)
4. Open the "BitShares" folder, and then right click and copy the "chain" folder. (Make sure you copy and don't cut it)
5. Paste the copied "chain" folder to an external harddrive, or elsewhere, My Documents etc
6. Rename the folder to "bts chain backup dd/mm" (day/month)
7. Open up bts again and it should load as before, normally.


8. If the client ever fails to download, find your "bts chain backup" folder, and copy it into the %appdata%/roaming/BitShares folder, replacing the existing "chain" folder.
9. Rename the newly copied folder from "bts backup" to "chain".
10. Keep a copy of the backup where you saved it before, in case it all fails again.

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General Discussion / BitShares Prospecti - case studies
« on: June 27, 2015, 12:11:16 pm »
EDIT: I AM NO LONGER CONSIDERING RUNNING FOR DELEGATE BUT I WOULD LIKE TO PURSUE THIS PROSPECTUS IDEA SOME OTHER WAY

Some in the community have suggest I offer my services as a delegate, and now I'm excited about it. So here are my ideas for you to mull over while I'm on holiday for a few days!
(There is no delegate name or anything yet - I shall edit it here later)

Identify business use-cases such as gold dealing, couponing, prediction markets, decentralized banking services and produce industry-specific and easy to understand Prospectus' outlining how and why to integrate with BitShares.

I will strive to use these materials to target and close existing businesses and walk them through the set-up, in public on the forums.
These use-cases will then be encorporated into industry specific prospecti.
I envision that 3 use cases for each industry will be sufficient that there will no longer be a need for public walkthroughs.
By that point, the prospectus will contain all necessary information and proven-claims of profit increases and cost reductions due to BitShares integration of competiors in the industry.

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pro·spec·tus
prəˈspektəs/
noun
noun: prospectus; plural noun: prospectuses

    a printed document that advertises or describes a school, commercial enterprise, forthcoming book, etc., in order to attract or inform clients, members, buyers, or investors.

I have previously posted examples of my work:

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Can BitShares offer Vaultoro decentralized banking services?

https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,16724.msg214074.html

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http://www.vaultoro.com/
Allow trading of gold bullion stored in insured, audited Swiss vaults against bitcoin.
They do not have any fiat banking services due to the added regulatory burden and the increased fees that would result.
I'm sure they could attract even more customers they could integrate bitFiat and bitGold as they could allow a 3rd asset for their users to hedge against eachother. Vaultoro would be insulated from regulatory burden and could collect fees on any UIA's they issue.
I think BitShares should establish a relationship with them as among other things such a partnership provides bts with a physical gold:bitGold and bitFiat:Physical Gold market to tighten the peg and increases liquidity.
Yet more opportunities to tighten the peg of bitAssets.

Which met with positive response, @Joshua Scigala from vaultoro:
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Hi Guys,

Joshua Scigala here from Vaultoro

Thanks for reaching out. Jeff replied to the support tickets but I wanted to come here to discuss the legalities because technologically it's fine.

The advice that we have received is that tokenizing gold would throw us down a regulatory nightmare because we would then fall under regulations that cover financial instruments.

Has the bitshares community dealt with regulations around UIA's? 

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Later, after explainations in the post:
Thanks for the warm welcome guys and girls!

@xeroc Thanks for your detailed response.

I will have to run all this past our legal and regulatory specialists but it does look very cool.

@Permie Thanks for the info.

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Why I think BitShares will succeed. Do competitors have all our features?

https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,16467.0.html

TL;DR - I like BitShares because of the message of freedom, Optional regulatory compliance, Bitcoin exchanges issuing UIA to attract bts users, Development is funded by the blockchain and voted for by the shareholders, At least 101 distributed block producing witnessing nodes, Core development is funded by the blockchain and voted for by the shareholders, Workers are paid by contracts voted for by the shareholders, Delegates are elected officials that act as the human element of the DAC, Blockchain Human Resources, Marketers profit from referrals, All aspects of the DAC are subject to change by a shareholder vote. Hard forks by shareholder vote only, 1 second transaction confirmations, Fast scanning of and reconnection to the network.


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Step by step BitShares Sales Pitch. (Pre 2.0)

https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=17105.0

TL;DR: There is a market niche for a global unbounded organization that efficiently adapts and morphs to the needs of the market and the desires of it's members.
I believe BitShares is that organization.
The upper limit of this organization is bound only by the size of the global economy. The current main use for trading tokens of value are financial derivatives purchased by large institutions and well educated individuals who reside in geographical locations favoured by financially powerful nations who have capital to risk.
A system that can drop the barriers to entry and allow everyone in the world access to the global economy will rapidly expand the total value of the economy.
BitShares will not only rapidly grow to meet the existing market, it will rapidly grow the size of the market itself.
Currently this potential is valued at around $20M.

As the name Permie suggest, I (no)dig Permaculture. ;)
I aim to be self sufficient within 3 years, and to have developed an eco-village of 5-100 dwellings within 10 years. My intention is to then let-out these dwellings free of charge, with food, power and community to artists and free thinkers who have the potential to benefit humanity. In exchange for their pledge to work on their talent/genius without distraction, all material needs will be provided.
Some of the first of these talent people would be BitShares dev's! And because 'my' team will have near-zero expenditure they will be able to offer very competitive contract-terms to the wider bts community.
 
I am committed to living free and I would like to demonstrate that to you, my fellow members.
I would be interested in retaining my Delegate position after 2.0 to play a role in keeping BitShares on the right path, as deemed by it's principled members.
I view 2.0 delegates as similar to the upper house in current parliaments, but far more accountable.
I would like to provide my principles and commitment as one of many counterbalances to unfavourable changes in BitShares' future.
I cannot offer any guarantees about my eco-community farm but I think it offers valuable insight for the life I intend to lead and how I view the world.

Is this something that members are interested in and do you think a delegate campaign is justified?

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BITSHARES 2.0 PAPER WALLET LINK:
www.paperwallet.bitshares.eu












OUTDATED AS OF OCTOBER 2015.

BTS 2.0 INFORMATION HERE:


I am seeking a way for storing BTS for a longer time.

What would you suggest?

The best way would be to print private keys on paper, but as I understand it is problematic with BTS 2.0 or gives me a recent link how to do that.

I am holding my Bitshares on polonex exchange and Bitshares 2.0 (light client) but do not feel comfortable to put more there because exchange could go down and my everyday computer could get compromised (I can loose passwords) quite easily by spyware or hackers. I am wondering how people with really large sums of BTS are holding them securely. Thank you.


1) Create an account using open ledger
2) Make a brainkey backup
3) store the brain key somewhere VERY SAFE
4) send your funds to that account

optional but HIGHLY RECOMMENDED::
4.1) create a new wallet (call it something different from "default") using your brain key!!
4.2) verify that your account can be recover using the brain key and the funds are there aswell

5) delete your wallet (only if you have at least one backup!!)

Cheers

unless you imported some private keys manually (which you shouldn't) .. then the brain key is all you need to recover access to your funds and accounts (verify by creating a new wallet with your brain key FIRST)


BEFORE ACTING ON ANY INFORMATION FURTHER DOWN THIS THREAD, PLEASE READ THE THREAD IN IT'S ENTIRETY. IT CONTAINS MUCH OUTDATED INFORMATION.

THANK YOU





Hello friends,

I am new to crypto and Bitshares and need some advice.  I have a Windows7 and am trading for Bitshares on an exchange.
I would like to secure my Bitshares in a wallet at this time to send and receive Bitshares.
I am wondering when Bitshares 2.0  and the Moonstone lightweight wallet might happen.  Should I wait awhile for this wallet or install the web wallet now?  I understand that the web wallet is experimental software.  Is it secure?

Thanks.
I would not recommend the webwallet as-is for storage.

Instead, go to https://github.com/xeroc/jshares and make yourself a secure paper wallet (offline).
A paper wallet is a single private/public keypair written on a physical piece of paper.
Funds are sent to the public address.
Funds are spent from the private address. Anyone with knowledge of the private key can spend your money - be careful where you put it.

Here are some step by step instructions, the whole process shouldn't take longer than 5 minutes if you know what to do.

On the right-hand-side of that page (in the middle) is 'Download Zip'. Click.
The file will download as a .rar or a .zip file.
This means that you will need the free software WinRar. (http://www.rarlab.com/download.htm)
Once downloaded, the file should open within winrar.
"Extract" the downloaded files to a known location (desktop?)

Now go to your save-location and open the folder, "jshares-master".
In this folder is a file named "paperwallet".
Open this file.
This will open a webpage displaying a public and private key.
A "refresh" button in the top right allows you to calculate a new address.
Be careful, if you refresh the page or press "refresh" the previous keys will be gone forever unless you have written them down.

Now that you see how it works, unplug the device from the internet and DO NOT reconnect until you are 100% sure you have finished.

Now that there is no internet connection (make sure wifi is off too), refresh the paperwallet webpage a few times to make sure.
Now write down the public and private key twice, on two separate pieces of paper
so that any errors can be found easily and you can store the paper wallet in two locations to protect from housefires/floods etc.
Triple check that you have copied the public and private keys correctly.
Store one paper wallet in a safe place at home, and another with a trusted family member or bury it in a secret location.

DO NOT COPY OR SAVE THE PRIVATE KEY ANYWHERE ON YOUR COMPUTER. This includes ctrl+c - do not do that.
The only place that the keys should be written are on the two (or more) pieces of paper.

Make sure that both paper copies are correct and that you have not compromised your keys by writing them in notepad or something on your pc (DONT DO THAT).

Refresh the paperwallet webpage to get rid of your super-secret keys and then shut down your computer.
When you reboot you can turn the internet on again.

Now you're done! You are now 99.9% secure and this is as far as you really need to go to stay safe :)
These paper wallets are way more secure than the both a webwallet and a client wallet.

If you don't yet own any crypto, buy your bts on an exchange such as https://www.ccedk.com/ and then send the bts to the public key of the paper wallet you have just created!

If you already have bitcoin, then go to https://blocktrades.us/ and choose to trade Bitcoin for BitShares (should be default.)
Paste your paper wallet public key into the appropriate field, click OK and then send your btc to the address displayed.
There is no registration and the bts will be in your wallet as soon as you have one btc confirmation (~10mins).

A note on paper wallets: they behave as a piggy-bank would. You can either drop bts into it as often as you like, or you can "smash" it and spend all the funds at once.
There is no partial-withdrawal.
If you want access to only a fraction of the funds on the paper wallet, you must transfer the remaining balance to a NEW paper wallet - NOT THE OLD ONE.
If you access the paper wallet then your private key is no longer 'cold' as it must be revealed to the internet to spend.
BitShares makes all this easy, so there's no need to worry.

To spend the funds on the paper wallet, all you need to do is import the private key to a internet connected wallet.
This is merely typing in the private key and pressing 'import' or 'sweep'.

You may wish to test this process by creating a paper wallet, funding with a tiny amount, and then making sure that when you "import" your private key again the funds are still there.

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If you're really cautious then you can do the same process as above, but on a machine that has never before been connected to the internet and has a fresh install of the operating system.

You can download and run a free Virtual Machine and install a fresh version of linux onto it. A VM is a way of running a separate operating system within the OS you already have - e.g its a program that runs on windows, but is a separate environment so is not subject to viruses that may be on the windows host machine.

Download and install https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Downloads

While you're waiting for that to download, get your hands on a 32bit linux distro.
http://www.linuxmint.com/edition.php?id=171

You will also need a Virtual CD/DVD program, so that you can run your linux file without bothering to burn it to a disc.
http://www.magiciso.com/tutorials/miso-magicdisc-overview.htm

Once installed, run virtual box and choose "New" in the top left corner.
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Name: linux 123
Type: Linux
Version: Ubuntu 32bit
Tick: Do not add a virtual harddrive

Click "Create"

Open MagicDisc (or other Virtual CD drive), and navigate to "Virtual CD/DVD-ROM" > "Mount" > And select the linux 32bit file you downloaded.

Now go back to Virtual Box, choose the "linux 123" virtual machine you just created and click "start". The program will then boot, choose the linux 123 "disc" and it will boot linux as a fresh install.

Follow the paper wallet instructions as before.
REMEMBER TO DISCONNECT FROM THE INTERNET!
Now you have closed the webpage and the paper wallet has dissapeared, close the virtual machine.
You will be asked to 'Save machine state' or 'Power off machine'.
Saving is basically standby, you want to Power-Off to be sure that all your paper wallet info is really gone.

Enjoy your 99.999% security!
DONT LOSE THE PAPER WALLETS OR LEAVE THEM FOR SOMEONE ELSE TO FIND AND COPY!

I hope that helps!

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General Discussion / Step by step BitShares Sales Pitch. (Pre 2.0)
« on: June 20, 2015, 05:15:26 pm »
TL;DR: There is a market niche for a global unbounded corporation organization that efficiently adapts and morphs to the needs of the market and the desires of it's shareholders.
I believe BitShares is that corporation organization.
The upper limit of this corporation is bound only by the size of the global economy. The current main use for trading tokens of value are financial derivatives purchased by large institutions and well educated individuals who reside in geographical locations favoured by financially powerful nations who have capital to risk.
A system that can drop the barriers to entry and allow everyone in the world access to the global economy will rapdily expand the total value of the economy.
BitShares will not only rapidly grow to meet the existing market, it will rapidly grow the size of the market itself.
Currently this potential is valued at around $20M.

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Bitcoin cannot both remain trustless and include price-feeds and contract enforcement at the protocol level. Prices require an external entity, and can therefore never be trustless.
I believe there are two key markets that will be disrupted by cryptocurrency.
The store of value market and the investment market.
For reasons I shall explain I do not believe a single system can efficiently fill both of these niches.
Two cryptocurrencys, one in each market, will become the major systems in the future. Bitcoin (store of value) and BitShares (investment).

I do not think that BitShares will "kill" Bitcoin due to the tenets of Game Theory.
If the first cryptocurrency fails, what does that say of the prospects of an alternative?

Therefore an external exchange is required for a decentralized derivatives market. The prevailing exchange will be the one that is most efficient and least risky.
Maximum efficiency will come from a cryptocurrency with settlement and price finding mechanisms at its core.
Fractions of a second count in derivatives markets and the trade-execution time saved by implementing these features at the protocol level is a huge advantage. Traders need assurances that their trades cannot be reversed, so the quicker the network can come to a consensus and finalize all transactions the better. A purpose-built cryptocurrency for a derivatives market will come to this consensus much faster than bitcoin can and be publicly auditable on a blockchain in real time.

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There are several main issues that result in numerous competing exchanges existing in today's financial market and if all of these issues were solved then only one exchange would be needed to meet the needs of the market.

Counterparty risk mitigation -  holding value on several exchanges.

A single party guaranteeing the IOUs traded on its exchange carries counterparty risk – that they may default on their obligations.
The risk is factored into the cost of doing business with this exchange.
A reduction in counterparty risk results in a reduction in cost of doing business there.
If counterparty risk is eliminated from an exchange then separate exchanges cannot compete on mitigating this risk.
A decentralised exchange where ONLY the users are able to spend their own funds (hold their private keys) and that has many parties providing price-feeds has negligible counterparty risk.

Competition of fees that each exchange charges.

If fees required to trade on an exchange are negligible <£0.0025 and much lower than the total value of the trade then separate exchanges cannot compete on fees unless they offer
significant advantages to entice customers away from the established exchange that has the
largest market depth/liquidity.
Would you rather pay 0.25p to trade on the largest, longest running exchange with the highest liquidity – or would you choose to trade on a newer exchange if it could offer fees of 0.2p? Bearing in mind that transaction fees pay to keep the network (exchange) secure against attack.

Systemic risk in the trading platform - The code might get hacked and trick users.

The risk that a fatal bug in the code exists but has not yet been exploited decreases over time and with the number of people auditing the open source code.
A separate competing exchange cannot surpass the incumbent/leading decentralised exchange without significantly simpler code (less potential bugs) and without being active for a sufficient amount of time. During which time the incumbent has attracted even more capital due to an even greater reduction in risk (due to increased uptime with no fatal flaws). The competitor would have to be much better in order to catch up.
   
Laws in different geographical regions - bureaucracy involved in global transfer.

Cryptocurrency can be transferred globally in seconds. There is no inefficiency in moving funds between jurisdictions except when 'cashing out'.
Separate 'gateways' to real world assets will still exist and they will be able to issue derivatives on the decentralised exchange that track the spot price given by the external 'gateway'. This allows arbitrage between spot prices from several gateways all within the decentralised exchange ecosystem.
The gateways would accept these derivatives 1:1 with the funds they hold on their gateway (cash reserves in bank accounts etc) in order to reach the customers who trade on the decentralised exchange.
As this transfer is near instant the user can 'cash out' to real world assets whilst only being exposed to counter party risk for a very short time. Participants are encouraged to stay within the ecosystem where there is no counterparty risk. Increasing numbers of users holding value on the exchange leads to increasing value of the underlying collateralizing cryptocurrency due to the increased demand for collateral used in assets traded.

Arbitrage

Currently, due to the time delays in moving funds from one centralized exchange to another (days with fiat, 10-60 minutes with bitcoin) a trader wanting to take advantage of arbitrage opportunities must hold value across several different centralized exchanges.
With the ability for a decentralised exchange to hold derivatives of the spot prices given by centralized exchanges there is no longer any need to hold value on separate centralized exchange that present counterparty risk.

Competition for market share

A decentralised exchange based on cryptocurrency allows anyone to hold shares in the exchange itself so all participants profit as the value traded on the exchange increases. There is no need to set up a competing decentralised exchange because there is more profit to be made by assimilating and bringing value to the existing market-leading exchange.
A decentralised exchange would be more similar to the internet (an ecosystem) than a telecoms company (a private company that seeks to profit from said ecosystem).
Designing and building a competitor to the internet would be a huge task and very risky so there is more profit with less risk in just growing the existing ecosystem by providing complimentary services.

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With decreasing demand for separate exchanges comes an increase in the liquidity and market depth offered by the most successful exchange.
This leads to an increase in its market share, which in turn breeds even more liquidity making it even more attractive as THE place to trade value.

For the reasons stated above the most successful exchange will be:
A Decentralized Autonomous Corporation (DAC) with (low) fees that adequately cover the expenses of securing the network.


This DAC (likely to be Bitshares) will:

Be Decentralized
Counterparty risk (of maliciously quoted prices) decreases as the number of 'nodes' offering price feed data increases and is almost eliminated completely if the DAC/exchange holds no custodial funds.

Have very low fees
A DAC exchange built with a cryptocurrency can transfer the underlying collateralizing asset irreversibly in seconds for very little cost.
In most cases, a trading exchange merely transfers the value of the asset, not the asset itself.
One party takes a short position on the value and is matched to another party who wants to
take a long position. The 'short' party gets a loan to invest elsewhere and pays interest on this loan to the 'long' party who is able to peg their value to an asset of their choice whilst
earning interest.

Be a Corporation with shareholder voting rights
The most successful exchange will adapt to market conditions and customer desires fastest.
Shareholders are anyone who holds the cryptocurrency used as collateral in all trades. Every transaction/trade made on the DAC is also an opportunity to prove how many shares you hold and cast votes for how the DAC should be run.
Shareholders are invested in the success of the DAC so will act in its best interest – to stay in business earning profit.

Be Autonomous
Top down central planning is an inefficiency.
Shareholders vote directly for several parties, known as 'Delegates' who they think will bring most value to the DAC. Delegates are tasked with validating transactions and providing price-feed data and are rewarded with a share of the transaction fees paid by users of the DAC. The more Delegates the more decentralized the DAC is.
Placing a limit on the number of Witnesses/Delegates (individuals or corporations in their own right) creates a competitive market for Delegate positions whilst limiting the expenses of validating transactions. Failure to perform tasks in a timely manner will result in being voted out by the shareholders and each Witness/Delegate will compete on the amount of compensation they require for their services. Shareholders will favour efficient delegates who donate the largest % of their income to the shareholders (by way of 'burning'/destroying some of their income and reducing the total money supply, thus increasing each shareholders share of the total DAC.)
Votes for Delegate positions occur 24/7 so any badly behaved Delegate could lose it's privileged position overnight.

Cater to as large a market as possible
The current main use for trading tokens of value are financial derivatives purchased by large institutions and well educated individuals who reside in geographical locations favoured by financially powerful nations who have capital to risk.
With cryptocurrency comes the ability for the tokens of value to contain data that can only be utilised by the current holder of the token. This brings countless new use cases for these derivatives/tokens of value.

One example is Peer Tracks – a company using a DAC to issue scarce tokens that represent a share in the value of music sales made by a particular artist. It aims to be a competitor to Spotify that instead of paying artists with advertising income it encourages artists to crowd-sale shares in their future career. A user who finds talent they like can invest in their career. If they make it big the value of the tokens they hold will have increased dramatically. 'Hipsters' are now financially incentivized to invest and advertise music they think will be the next big thing.
How many more genres of music do you think there will be if a record label is no longer needed and musicians do not need to 'sell out' to appeal to a mass market large enough to be worth the investment of said record labels?

The DAC can provide banking services to internet connected users (individuals or businesses) with no questions asked as there are no compliance costs as no custodial funds are held. This will allow a truly free market to emerge as 'unfavourable' industries can no longer be stifled with denial of financial services.
These users now have access to anon/pseudonymous assets tied to value of their choice which can earn a return greater than inefficient traditional banks can provide.

Enable businesses to use the DAC ecosystem for their own needs. 'User Issued Assets' are not backed by collateral but by the assurances made by the party/business that issues them. This allows start-ups to have IPO style crowd-funding with none of the compliance costs.
It also allows things like airline miles, gift vouchers, discount coupons etc. to benefit    from the user-base and security provided by the DAC and prevent counterfeiting.

Provide Identity Verification services so that things like user website login and proving you are a human user and not a bot can all be controlled from within the DAC. There will be no need to create and remember separate logins to all your websites.
You will also be able to attach your ID (could be anonymous) to the ownership of your physical assets.
For example the keys to your car could instead be private keys held on your account on the DAC. If you want to sell your car, you can then transfer ownership to another user by sending them the 'keys' irreversibly.

Provide gateways to external services
A derivative can be issued on the DAC that tracks the value of spot prices of assets quoted on external exchanges. These 'exchanges' could include bitcoin exchanges, stock exchanges, gold vendors and the like. This allows arbitrage between spot prices across several exchanges all from within the DAC ecosystem. The gateways/external exchanges would accept these tokens 1:1 with the funds they hold on their exchanges in order to reach the customers who trade on the DAC and collect their fees from every trade.
The DAC users can now 'cash out' of the DAC to fiat, gold, silver and other real world assets by trading their value to the external exchange. As this transfer would be near instant the user is exposed to the counterparty risk of the external exchange for a very short time.

This ability will encourage more capital to stay within the DAC ecosystem as they can trade out of the ecosystem via many different gateways at will.
More users holding value within the DAC leads to an increased demand for shares in the DAC (the collateralizing asset) which leads to an increasing market capitalization of the DAC and an increased value in each share.
Derivatives held on the DAC can also be traded peer-to-peer for cash to avoid compliance (KYC/AML - Know Your Customer/Anti-Money Laundering) and revealing your real-world ID.
This also allows users with internet access but limited traditional financial infrastructure to participate in the DAC.

Provide Price-Feeds and Validate Transactions
Privileged stakeholders, known as witnesses and delegates, are financially invested in the success of the DAC and so are chosen to provide the computational power to validate transactions and to provide up to date prices on assets traded. The ledger of transactions each witness presents to the network is checked against ledgers presented by the other Delegates and if there is consensus then the ledger is updated. A 'bad actor' cannot do serious damage or steal anyone's money - just disrupt service temporarily.
While these Witnesses/Delegates do assert some level of control over the network they are held accountable for their actions and will face consequences immediately if they act against the interests of the shareholders. Delegates hold a privileged position so there will always be many competing parties ready to take their place should they dissatisfy the shareholders in any way.
Honesty is heavily rewarded and malevolence is punished swiftly.
Potential witnesses and delegates compete for shareholder votes on the efficiency of tx-validation, price feeds, extra tasks they pledge to undertake and on the amount of their income they will 'burn' (destroy) to decrease the share supply which increases the value all remaining shares.

Provide ease of use and secure account recovery for the user.
All assets held by a user on the DAC are stored using the same private keys, so only one back-up (words written on paper, a file on a USB stick or an encrypted file stored online) is required.
All assets can be stored-under and sent-to an easy to remember username that is unique and of the users choice. e.g “Send x Gold/Silver/BTC/USD/Asset to JohnSmith23”
Direct trading between all assets is possible. BTC/GLD, USD/OIL, CNY/CHE etc
>100% collateral backing each asset. 100% by the 'long' position and currently 200% by the short who lends the asset into existence. Shorters post an interest they are willing to pay and long positions receive the average interest offered by all shorts of that asset. (Subject to change.)

The derivatives are fungible and divisible so can be used as a currency in their own right.
All asset-specific contracts mature on the same day every 30 days so all the derivatives can    traded as equals. These 'training wheel' limits will be removed once the market is large enough to support contracts expiring on different days.
Each user gets exactly what they ask for or no trade is done. The difference between the ask and the bid is captured in fees for the network. (Subject to change.)

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The current state of BitShares and the risks of a competitor
Only 2.5 billion currently exist and they are highly divisible so there is no upper limit to the number of trades this total supply can support.
E.g A $1 derivative could be collateralized with 0.00001 bitshares one day in the future if bitshares were valuable enough.

The theoretical maximum supply of BitShares is 3.7 Billion. The 1.2 B yet unissued shares are kept in a reserve-pool and every day a fraction of these funds are directed where the shareholders deem most useful. There is a hard-limit on the number of reserve-pool funds available each day, and the yet-undesignated reserve-pool funds cannot be spent by anyone.
They can either be: burned and removed from the supply forever, recycled and sent back to the reserve-pool for use later, or pledged to Worker Proposals as payment to complete shareholder desired tasks.

Each BitShare is currently worth $0.0046 (21/04/15)
The current market cap of bitshares is $11.5M

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Metaphors matter.  If BitShares were a currency, we would want it to have a limited supply.  If BitShares were a company, it would happily issue new shares to propel growth by attracting new infusions of cash, services, or intellectual capital.  What should BitShares the community do?   We think it should fairly recognize the contributions of all of its members – past, present, and future.  Fast-growing companies recognize that, as long as the value infused from new sources exceeds the value of shares issued, the future value of everybody’s shares will increase.   The BitShares community will therefore use the company metaphor, not the currency metaphor, to inform its growth policy decisions.

How will this work?  Well, Bitcoin has for years issued 50 new bitcoin “shares” every block to incentivize its mining “employees” to do the work required to secure its network.  This policy gradually increases the supply of its shares but does nothing to increase their value because the work done has no residual benefit.  The net cost of this wasteful work is about a half billion dollars per year.  If that new money didn’t have to be spent on outrageously expensive security, it could grant 101 small businesses an annual budget of 5 million dollars each to do something useful, something to promote Bitcoin’s growth.

BitShares is able to use its DPOS technology to do exactly that!  It will also offer up to 50 BTS per block to incentivize 101 employees (delegates) to secure the network PLUS do something useful to grow stakeholder value.  Since its DPOS security mechanism is so efficient, almost all of the BTS issued will go toward software, marketing, and infrastructure.  Stakeholders must approve new issuances by explicitly approving any new-hires that they are convinced will add more value than they consume.  They may choose to issue zero new shares; and, there is a hard-coded limit of 50 BTS per block (~6.3% annually).  It will likely be half that – far below Bitcoins ~10% inflation.

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Questions
How many more people and how much more capital can benefit from exposure to a derivatives market in this new system compared to the old system?

Will there be as much competition between exchanges if the main exchange is highly trustworthy, highly secure and has negligible fees?
It is much cheaper to assimilate and provide value to the customers of the existing BitShares DAC than it is to create a competing ecosystem, which the bitshares DAC would bridge to anyway.
This is much the same as starting an internet company to benefit internet connected customers instead of trying to design a replacement for the internet itself.
Separate ventures that DO NOT compete as a derivatives market but instead provide value to DAC customers will greatly benefit from working together with the BitShares DAC.
E.g a separate cryptocurrency that provides true anonymity to its users would benefit by providing a gateway to the DAC in order to access the customers of the DAC and the DAC benefits from a partnership with a desirable product.
Ventures that DO compete will have a very hard time. Would you hold assets on a new, untested exchange when you could hold the exact same asset value on the established DAC?

There are very few efficiency savings a competitor exchange/derivative market could make that would not be desired and implemented by the shareholders of the existing DAC.
If the competitor struggles to get initial customers then how will they be able to grow?

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But what if it's not Bitcoin or BitShares?
Even if a competitor surpasses Bitcoin for the store of value market or BitShares for the derivatives market then who is going to be best placed to convert assets into this new competitor?
Those who already hold cryptocurrency. For the time being no such viable competitors exist so at least for now Bitcoin and BitShares will continue to grow as their utility is realized by more of the global population.

It is estimated that there are currently less than 1 million Bitcoin holders. That leaves 99.985% of the population who are yet to hear about and benefit from cryptocurrency. If they all understood what they could get out of it, how much more value would be within the crypto ecosystem?
It is my researched opinion that the systemic risk of Bitcoin or BitShares failure is far outweighed by the systemic risk of counterparty default in the traditional banking system.
Bitcoin and BitShares are just more volatile in the short to medium term. Such volatility can be solved by holding market-pegged SmartCoin assets to stable commodities of the users choice. Funds never need leave the BitShares ecosystem.

The reason that Bitcoin and Bitshares have such low valuations is PR. The global advertising campaign is yet to take place.

With the BitShares referral system, marketers are encouraged to attract new users and will be paid up to $80 to do so.

So, do you think BitShares will increase in value?

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The crowdfunder for Moonstone.io closed a few hours ago, does anybody know what happened?

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General Discussion / Press release for DPOS 2.0 announcements?
« on: June 11, 2015, 02:37:15 pm »
I've just found a cointelegraph interview with Ken Code from a few months ago about BitShares and I was very impressed.

http://cointelegraph.com/news/114033/bitshares-101-basics-of-the-worlds-4th-most-popular-cryptocurrency

 +5% Ken!
How did you make it happen? Was it something a well informed layman-shareholder could organize?

Are there any upcoming articles or press releases for DPOS 2.0? I've been looking for a press release since Monday

The documentation brilliantly describes all the new features but I haven't seen a concise pitch for BitShares.
From the article:
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It's my job to provide a snappy overview of BitShares before moving to the interview portion of this article.

But the simple fact is that BitShares is more than a cryptocurrency. It utilizes financial tools and contract types of which I'm no expert. The kind Wall Street cats must specialize in. And so I really don't completely understand it, which makes me equally suspicious and excited.

It would be great it there was a go-to paragraph that journo's could copy+paste, or a template of some sort for the introductory context portion of articles.
I think the quicker and easier it is for a website to whip up an article about BitShares for pageviews and clicks the more news coverage we'll get. They may even be able to benefit from the referral program in some way.
Would a widget of some sort be useful? A button that can be easily added to website that allows the owner to input their account name and set up a referral faucet. I'm not sure if that's possible or not


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General Discussion / Coupon/voucher UIA's are exempt from BitLicense
« on: June 10, 2015, 08:24:16 pm »
http://cointelegraph.com/news/114514/bitlicense-exemption-a-huge-deal-for-ribbitrewards

“Digital units that can be redeemed for goods, services, discounts, or purchases as part of a customer affinity or rewards program with the issuer and/or other designated merchants or can be redeemed for digital units in another customer affinity or rewards program, but cannot be converted into, or redeemed for, Fiat Currency or Virtual Currency.”

It seems that the regulators are likely to leave BitShares alone as UIA issuers can control their asset and apply KYC restrictions.

I wonder how having a free floating UIA that is tradeable against many crypto's will fit into their definitions.
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but cannot be converted into, or redeemed for, Fiat Currency or Virtual Currency

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will the browserclient have blocktrades.us and metaexchange.info integrated?

Yes, actually it will have a fiat deposit integrated.

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Shareholders want whales to come into the ecosystem and get it kick started. I think there is an alternative method where the shareholders pool funds together to capitalize a Super Whale that gives the profits back to the shareholders who funded them by way of a UIA.

There are lots of arbitrage opportunities between bitAssets and bts across various exchanges and I've been thinking of a way to profit from it by capitalizing traders and sharing the profit with them.
By pooling money with other shareholders and employing traders to take advantage of these arbitrage opportunities holders can profit at the same time as contributing to a fund that aims to provide liquidity to the BitShares internal exchange and contribute to keeping the peg between bitAssets as tight as possible.

The issue comes with who manages the UIA and can be trusted to manage the fund and distribute funds amongst traders.
A quorum of delegates could issue and manage a UIA. By purchasing the UIA the user provides funds that are then pooled and distributed in small sections to several competent traders who promise to look for arbitrage opportunities and other low risk trades to grow the value of the fund. The traders are rewarded with a healthy portion of the profits to incentivize them to increase the value of the fund.
Like in micro-lending, the fund should be split up among as many traders as possible to decrease the variance in the profit earned and reduce the impact of fraud or loss.
Checking up on every individual trader will be very expensive and time consuming. Instead, each trader could only be allocated a portion of the fund that the fund could afford to lose. So long as a particular percentage of traders can be trusted to make a target profit, then other losses can be absorbed.

This means that delegates would not be needed to chase down traders and monitor their progress in any detail. The shareholders could decide on certain goals that must be met to remain a trader, and if they are not met then they are automatically frozen out and can no longer access the fund.
The only duties of the delegates involved would be to sign multi-sig transactions from the fund to approved traders and manage the UIA. The managing delegates could receive the UIA trading fees.

How should I proceed with getting this started?

I'm thinking of posting job listings for crypto-traders. Their resume would have to demonstrate that they can be trusted to trade for steady profit sufficiently to the shareholders before they could access the fund.
How can potential traders be asked to prove themselves?

I expect in the beginning this fund will be very small and may only be able to attract one or two amateur day-traders as the profit potential would not be enough to sustain any more.
However, a trustworthy reliable amateur who grows the fund every day is at least as good as I would be, trading myself. If these amateurs could grow the fund and attract new investment through demonstration of steady growth, then the fund can employ more traders to reduce the risk and streamline the process.

I want to get something like this going, where do I start?

EDIT: Perhaps individual day traders could be encouraged to issue UIA's that represent a share in the fund that they trade. More successful traders will grow the value of their UIA and attract more investment.

The shareholder hedge fund could purchase a basket of trader UIA's, after analysis of the trading success of each UIA.

New traders could be required to provide 110% collateral for the funds they are trading with, with a decreasing scale once the trader has an established track record.
I want to avoid a situation where the fund is too large for a day trader to be expected to provide 100% collateral to.
Unless the fund could employ so many traders that each trader holds a small enough amount.
But why would a trader lock up his own capital just to be able to trade with an equal amount of someone elses? 100% collateral isn't going to work long term unless there can be significant advantages to trading with the fund. Are there any incentives that can be offered? Perhaps a share of the UIA trading fees for x amount of time if they trade for the fund and provide collateral.

A percentage of all UIA trading fees for life could be the incentive. The tiny % of UIA fees for life given away to each trader in exchange of 1 day of work could be set so that the fund can employ millions of work-days before 100% of the UIA fees are allocated.

x% of fees on this fund for life could be quite a good incentive, particularly if this hedge fund is endorsed by the shareholders and is expected to grow in size.

EDIT 2: Traders could be incentivized to reinvest their share of the profits back into the fund by using them to buy a higher % of the UIA fund fees forever. There could be a free floating market between fund profits % and fund fees forever %.
Or traders could be awarded a bonus amount of UIA shares in the fund in return for reinvesting their trading profits into the fund.

If we could demonstrate a financial instrument that has steady daily growth only accessible on the BitShares exchange then we can create yet another reason to make an account and use the network.
Once we have this one hedge fund UIA up and running others will surely pop up in competition. Like MPA (market pegged assets) serve as a demonstration for privatised bitAssets; this fund can demonstrate the business case of a BitShares UIA hedge/trading funds.

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http://www.vaultoro.com/
Allow trading of gold bullion stored in insured, audited Swiss vaults against bitcoin.
They do not have any fiat banking services due to the added regulatory burden and the increased fees that would result.
I'm sure they could attract even more customers they could integrate bitFiat and bitGold as they could allow a 3rd asset for their users to hedge against eachother. Vaultoro would be insulated from regulatory burden and could collect fees on any UIA's they issue.
I think BitShares should establish a relationship with them as among other things such a partnership provides bts with a physical gold:bitGold and bitFiat:Physical Gold market to tighten the peg and increases liquidity.
Yet more opportunities to tighten the peg of bitAssets.

If Valutoro accepted bitUSD for gold an average joe banking user would still have to purchase bitFIAT with a bank card, and then send the bitUSD to Vaultoro or any company wishing to avoid traditional fiat integration.
What if BTS can facilitate this transaction in just one step?

The user enters the destination account for the bitUSD and is then presented with banking account numbers etc. to make their payment. The entity providing this service is presented with the risk of a charge-back or fraud.
If this entity could profit from UIAs or referral fees such that it more than covers such risks of fraud then it may be able to provide a service that doesn't require such extensive KYC measures.
Could existing exchanges like CCDEK provide this service?
A user who visits the vaultoro (example) site and wants to buy Vaultoro gold but pay with fiat could be directed to a payment window that links to participating exchanges. Within the window the user provides relevant details in order to purchase the gold. Hopefully after not too much form filling the customer's purchase is complete.
Under the hood, the customer has just bought bitUSD from the Exchange to the value of their purchase of gold at Vaultoro, plus a small fee. The Exchange immediately make payment in the same amount to Vaultoro. Vaultoro then transfer ownership of the gold to the customer. BitUSD transfers are as good as instant, and so long as the exchange can transfer the bitUSD to Vaultoro in a timely manner then the trade will be rather seamless and the customer can use their bank card (ease of use), Vaultoro have no extra regulatory burden and profit from an increase in potential customers, the exchange makes money on the spread, and BitShares benefits from liquidity.

Is this at all possible?



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TL;DR: Example.
BitShares hosts a Counterstrike tournament and enables betting/voting on in-game events for the chance to win cash payouts. In-play gambling for online sports.
Each round in the game could have a bet. At the start of the round a question pops up on screen and users have a period of time to open their bts wallet and place their bets.
"Will the terrorists plant A or B? Vote now!".
"Will superplayer123 stay stop of the leaderboard this round?"
Some votes could be suspended until after some time in the round. "Will playerY win the round now he's the only one left in a 1v3?"
Delegates watch the tournament and verify.
This gets bts into the hands of a large audience and rewards them for doing so. Steamers and gaming celebrities who bring us the audience will be rewarded with referral fees.

Online gaming is HUGE and gives us access to a live participatory audience for very little cost.
I think Counterstrike and Starcraft are good games to focus on.
E-sports have huge live online audiences that BitShares should be targetting. They are mostly young  and internet savvy.
We could get them to watch a tournament of their favourite gamers (which they want to do anyway) and have them download a BitShares wallet to participate. With BitUSD they could play in a prediction market of the tournament, and they could hunt for hidden QR codes in the stream which awards the first scanner some bitUSD.
"Hey, we're BitShares! Come and watch something you love anyway and we'll give you prizes for it! Seeing as you've got our wallet and some bitUSD now... Do you want to get paid to refer a friend?"

Twitch.tv allows gamers of varying popularity to broadcast their gameplay live to anybody who wants to watch them.
Streamers have varying fanbases of a few 100 to 10's of millions of people who will regularly watch live footage of their favourite players.
Even with a small budget there are plenty of streamers who would LOVE the publicity such an event could provide them and several of them will have 10k+ followers.

BitShares could target prominent players in the gaming community to participate in a BitShares sponsored event. Perhaps with research we can find a particular 'beef' between teams we can offer to 'settle once and for all' in our sponsored arena. We should approach the community as a friend and demonstrate understanding of the game.

We can attract high level streamers to participate with the referral program. If every new user that signs up to watch the tournament is referred by the streamer, then there is significant profit to be made. We could market BitShares to the streamers as a way to monetize their following, and in turn they can market BitShares FOR us.

Step 1) Produce a snappy paragraph "pitch" to sell the idea to streamers and find streamers to contact. Aim for those with the most fans. (10M+). Those with large fan-bases may be swamped with fan-mail. Prominent community members may need to be contacted to get above the noise.

Step 2) Find at least 2 willing teams to go head to head live on stream.

Step 3) Issue a UIA for each team and create a prediction market for the game ahead. As the game progresses and the odds change, the price of the UIA fluctuates and the prices of the assets are displayed on the stream broadcast to add to the "drama". It would be pretty exciting to see the price shoot up right after an impressive move in the game.
The value of the UIA of the losing team goes to zero and the winning UIA entitles the holder to a payout perhaps multiplied by a bonus (as an extra incentive to participate, paid for by BTS shareholders).

Even without the prediction market, the hidden QR codes and the referral program still make this a profitable venture for all involved.

Step 4) Work with delegates to view the match and to ensure that the winning team is determined in a trust free way. The "price feed" of the match.

Step 5) Work with streaming hosts to hide bitUSD private keys in QR codes within the stream at random intervals. These secret keys should be heavily advertised before the steam. We want to capture dedicated fans but we also want to capture as many others as possible.
The code could pop up underneath the UIA charts after game-significant events. Similar to the celebrations after a touch-down at a football stadium.

Thoughts?

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