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Random Discussion / Blockchain lottery social care/other 'public' goods
« on: November 14, 2015, 11:38:56 pm »
Step 1: Acquire old folks home, or land with minimal govt. retrictions on it's use, and develop sustainable cob/wooden structures suitable for elderly housing.

2: Permaculture it up to create a pleasant  retirement environment self sufficient in food, energy and water. Healthcare labour is by far the highest expense.

3: Places for residents are determined by lottery, on a provably fair blockchain.

4: Lottery entry requires posting collateral. If granted a place, this collateral will be accepted as payment for X-time. If a place is not granted, a small % of the collateral is kept, and added to the working capital of the retirement home.
If a resident is denied a place, the second time they apply they receive a probability bonus increase of Y% but are still required  to post collateral.

5: A minority Z% of the places are scholarships. From the hopefully profit-making collateral payments of rich people who want to 'guarantee' a place for their old relatives. Residents who post zero collateral in the lottery process are granted places out of this scholarship fund (which would have to be large enough to cover several years of scholarship-resident expenses, or provide working capital to invest in ancillary business to sustain funding.)

6: As labour costs are high and demands for places are also high, volunteering as a healthcare assistant increases the chances of your relative being granted a place.
A small team of highly trained full-time careworkers are on site to provide high quality training to new volunteers.

7: Reevaluate variables to balance labour costs and new investment from posted collateral to ensure a stable environment for existing residents.

8: Invest in new sites to increase resident capacity.

9: Apply principles to other social care projects


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General Discussion / BitShares TL;DR. Explain in one line
« on: November 11, 2015, 09:48:13 pm »
BitShares are like bitcoin but ethical and the economic incentives for perpetually sustainable incorruptible financial security and privacy are aligned correctly

How would you edit this sentence to improve it's succinct accuracy?

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Just a thought I had relating to a way to 'explain' anarchy and democracy.

Power lies in communities of connected people. Those who know each-other and live closely with one another have a public reputation to maintain and a common-goal of peace and harmony in their immediate living environment. Nobody wants to deal with harassment or trouble on their front doorstep.
Criminals might consider being bad somewhere else but they are unlikely to do so in front of people who see them enter and leave their house every day. Reputation.
Or in places that they themselves will have to use regularly. Self interest.

Because such a group is so powerful the common-goal (or objective) that they choose to enact is very important.

A bad actor can see that influencing the objective of a community could yield them great power and wealth.
Well-connected communities are hard to influence. The fewer people there are and the better they know each-other, the more difficult it becomes to convince them to perform or consent to work that doesn't benefit each of them equally, or appears to have ulterior motives.
The small number of people in this community are heavily involved, and will scrutinize the decisions made by other members. There aren't many people so it doesn't take too much time or effort to understand what is really happening.
Fucking people over is difficult.

Democracy forces these smaller communities to gift their community-membership to a politician.
Lots of small, well-connected communities have now been consolidated into one 'large' malleable group that resides in a single physical location (parliament) that exists in a community of shared living environment.
The power of thousands of communities now rests in just one centralized community.
Individuals are smart, large groups are stupid. The more members, the harder it is to scrutinize and make informed decisions.

As these politicians now share a common interest with each-other (more-so than with their constituents), they choose objectives that are more important to themselves than the population-at-large.
These objectives might be directly beneficial to the politicians (higher pay) or purchased by third parties. This 'purchase' may be in the form of bribery (giving politicians secret money), but also through influence.
One only needs convince this single centralized group that a particular objective is worth pursuing for it to go ahead. A media campaign using the 'anything is true if you say it often enough' tactic could purchase the power of this group.



Any good?



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General Discussion / Re: Bitshares price discussion
« on: September 28, 2015, 11:13:16 pm »
Only 10 btcs of sells back to 2700, and a 16 btc buywall in pale at 2600.  The low is in guys! :)
I have almost no idea what all this means, but I love reading the play by play commentary so cheers for doing this Ander.

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On the articles about OpenLedger, 8 exchanges were said to join OpenLedger. Are those newly created exchanges or already existing ones we know about? Could you share that info even if u can't mention the names?

And congratulations  +5%

4 have been announced, 4 are new players who we have agreed to supply with software when they are ready.  Some are non-exchanges who want to bring their existing customers new services.   BunkerDEX and Peak Ventures are examples of the non-prior-exchanges.   CCEDK and BANX are examples of existing exchanges leveraging the competitive advantages to accelerate their market share.

Enabling non-exchanges is a promising new model because it represents a way to capture large blocks of new users from outside the crypto universe. 

A key motivation for all is the new referral program which allows rapid monetization of existing user bases. 

Its beautiful because at this early stage they are all drawing from different groups of people with different demographics.  So there is little overlap but strong synergy.  A perfect scenario for mutually beneficial partnerships.
Bitcoin aligned the incentives for consensus of a ledger, but BitShares aligns all incentives necessary to spread a new type of sound money into the existing economy.
Markets are profitable because of the networks of people within them. Anyone with influence in a network of people can now monetize their connections in a way that improves the efficiency of already desirable and valued services within that economy.

Celebrity's have fans who already want a token of appreciation or an indication that they are a loyal fan.
Banks have customers that want to have better and faster access to their accounts.
Musicians have a fanbase and a way to take the profit they deserve from streaming services (PeerTracks).
Shopkeepers have regular customers and passing trade to attract.
Etc etc
BitShares isn't all new and bewildering, it performs needed and already existing services in a more efficient and transparent way.

"Hey would you like your online/payment/token business to run a little more efficiently, it'll save you at least a couple of % on your margins and you can set it all up in less than a day.
And yeah you get paid if you show someone else how to save money."

All of the incentives are aligned. The network won't just snowball, it will expand like a nuclear reaction. User-particles will collide against eachother and parts of the global economy that could never before symbiotically benefit eachother.

...I'm convinced of the principles and the network-effect-growth path, so the technology just has to do what it says on the tin and off it goes!

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Thank you Ander!

I remember your analysis of the bts price and crypto market as being rather influential in my decision to stick around long enough to 'get it'.

Very proud to be a part of this community and that my small contribution has been worthy of note.

If you're still here after all the FUD and price dumps, good on you!
Hopefully that means a lot of you see the value in freedom and in the complete and total alignment of incentives.
Revisiting this thread this time next year may turn out to be quite surreal.
Or not, but freedom keeps me here and I've found no other community with such well reasoned anarchist foundations.

Wow... almost shed one or two tears :)
Always enjoying to read such things and feelings we all share...

BIG UP ;)  +5%
+5%
... yeah I "almost" did too

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integration and partnership efforts like this are an awesome idea. this sounds like a standard job for our marketing delegates, but likely to be more effective after 2.0 hits the street and proves itself technically. nonetheless, the community should have a standard marketing / pitch package for reaching out to potential partners, maybe a shared spreadsheet where we document who we've reached out to, when, how, and what the results were, etc. having a core pitch and integrating our efforts could pay big divs in time.
+5%

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General Discussion / Re: London meetup
« on: August 02, 2015, 02:42:46 pm »
I ll be in london for a little less than two weeks at the beginning of Ausgust. Anyone in for a meetup? :)

There's a slight possibility that I could get to London...
I'll try to figure something out, because I'd like to meet up.
Anyone else?

delulo - if you could keep this up-to-date when you can give more details that'd be good
I could possibly do the 8th or 9th (next weekend)

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Tinder is a social dating app used by millions of people.
How can bitshares integration help Tinder increase profit, and introduce BTS to a huge audience?

Tinder shows you facebook pictures of people in your area for dating. You press yes or no, and if the person says yes too, then you are able to chat with eachother.
For free, Tinder allows users to view ~30 people every 12 hours.
If you want unlimited access then you can pay about $8/month for the privilege. The price has recently dropped, which I assume means they want to attract more signups and are looking to increase their conversion %.

Tinder grew their social network by being totally free for about a year, and are now monetizing their userbase.

Credit card payments are not very private, and paying for dating related products is still a bit taboo.
How can seamless BitShares integration make payment easier, cheaper and more private for their customers?

My thinking so far:
Females have a LOT of choice of males, being able to pay to go to the front of the queue of men that they see could be very profitable for Tinder.
Perhaps the order in which potential matches are displayed could include a new variable in its algorithm. Purchasing 'tinder points' using bitUSD would give you an advantage proportional to the amount of points you hold.

Some people love to customize, holding Tinder Points could allow them to pay a few pennies to add sparkles and glitter to their profile, or unlock mild photo FX to make them look 'cool'.

Tinder recently got Instagram integration, so users can display unlimited photos using their instagram account, rather than the maximum of 5 without instagram.

Quote from: https://www.gotinder.com/contact
Partnerships
Interested in partnering with Tinder?
partners@gotinder.com

Press
Interested in including Tinder in your next article or blog?
press@gotinder.com

Ad Sales
Interested in advertising on Tinder?
adsales@gotinder.com

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Make it so market makers get paid, and market takers pay %. This will create liquidity like crazy.

 +5% If possible
Liquidity is what brings in the most customers, right?

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General Discussion / Re: Mumble Attendance Today
« on: July 24, 2015, 05:02:04 pm »
Forum: Permie
Mumble: Permie
BTS: Krimduss

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General Discussion / Re: Non-Bitcoinian Geometry
« on: July 24, 2015, 11:27:28 am »
My interpretation of this post is that BitShares can spread it's tendrils into as many markets as possible and profit and educate the people of each market about the benefits of freedom.

If BTS was forbidden to cooperate with 'big-business-bad-guys' then the billions of people who participate in those markets will never see the escape-opportunity BTS provides.
The valuations of Facebook, Snapchat and Whatsapp demonstrate that the value of a social product is in it's userbase, the Network Effect.
You can't convert a customer if they never see your product or principles, so BTS needs to infiltrate markets that do not share the principles of freedom and then convert them with the efficiency and ease-of-use of a free market.

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General Discussion / Re: Brownie Distribution Update
« on: July 23, 2015, 11:58:52 pm »
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Stakeholder Proposals / Re: DPOShub.org [PR Delegate Update Thread]
« on: July 23, 2015, 03:39:05 pm »


Is this the message you want to convey?

http://www.crossroad.to/Books/symbols1.html
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TRIQUETRA: The triquetra -- with or without the circle -- has been found on runestones in Scandinavia, in ancient goddess-oriented pagan groups, in Celtic manuscripts, and on early Germanic coins. It is associated with numerous mythical gods and goddesses and has been used as a protective charm by Wiccans. Sometimes the symbol is reversed -- pointing down rather than up. The three points may also be round rather than pointed.

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Stakeholder Proposals / Re: DPOShub.org [PR Delegate Update Thread]
« on: July 23, 2015, 03:33:41 pm »
Love the concept of DPOS hub!  +5%

Is the logo final? Reminds me a bit of old church windows or of other religious symbols :)


Symbols are important, can you explain what this one means and why it is appropriate for DPOS hub?
'It looks cool' isn't good enough, imo

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