Quote from: Ander on July 22, 2015, 10:01:44 pm

I'd love to see a cross community collaboraiton on a decentralized marketplace.

Imagine a 1 click installation of a front-end like prestashop by using your public key and setting up a marketplace of offers you own on the syscoin blockchain. Now imagine installing the Bitshares ecommerce plugins which I have already done and now you have the ability for vendors to accept USD on chain while using a marketplace decentralized stored on their private key, backed up by the network. If you wish to move your store to say OpenCart you can do the same thing, infact both stores will stay up to date by monitoring the blockchain and adding items to the sql databases through the syscoin blockchain ecommerce plugins.

To take it a step further you can link your marketplace to someone else's by using linked offers. You will simply be able to say I want to clone someones marketplace offers and offer things on there for a small commission and dropship orders... thus if you are a better salesman you will get a cut out of things you do not even own, but just a reseller. You should be able to even browse offers and resell from different vendors, becoming a reseller from a variety of different sources. With offer whitelisting you can achieve volume based discounts or a vendor controlled reselling platform for each offer you own if you wish only select individuals to resell your offer, and at what prenegotiated discount level.

Now imagine if both blockchains supported AT (with built-in escrow, buyer/seller protection) and ACCT and you can now transfer coins in/out of either chains, thus you can pay your marketplace fees in Sys by using bitshares. Now you got total integration of communities.

Because Sys is on supernet, you should have ability to hide your coins using either bitshares or supernet if you wish anonymity when using the marketplace.

That's the vision I am working towards right now.

Quote from: arhag on July 17, 2015, 10:20:53 am

Quote from: xeroc on July 17, 2015, 09:01:50 am

Quote from: delulo on July 17, 2015, 08:48:16 am

That is all part of 2.0. I couldnt come up with something BTS stakeholders could vote on other than what you mentioned.

Even though we can not come up with something like this NOW does not necessarily mean your future us can not
From what I understand from the code of Graphene, the code can be easily extended to allow for many more "voting" possibilities.

I don't yet know much about FMV, but I can imagine extra tokens that can vote for proposals that are independent of the BitShares Ecosytem.

The way I see it, BitShares 2.0 stake-based voting and Follow My Vote voting are two different ways of voting. The first is not private and weighs votes by the quantity of the asset (at first just BTS but in theory any asset) that is authorized for the particular election. The second is a "1 final vote/ballot per unique token" system where unique tokens are publicly assigned on the blockchain by the election authority prior to the election opening (typically with 1 token assigned per every unique person qualified for the particular election) and it uses advanced cryptography to provide privacy for the voters (disassociates the entities who were assigned the unique voting tokens in the public pre-election phase from the actual ballots submitted by each token after the election opens).

The first kind of voting is much easier and better suited for stake-based voting on proposals (despite the fact that it doesn't give us true privacy but rather just pseudo-anonymity assuming our account's aren't tied to our real identities). That is good enough for the type of decentralized governance Troglodactyl is talking about. So I would say after the transition to BitShares 2.0 is complete, we don't need to wait for an extra step 2 for Follow My Vote style voting features. We can and should immediately get started with voting on worker proposals for important new features to add to BitShares 2.0 such as (in no particular order): bond markets; option markets; privacy features (confidential transactions aka blinded amounts, stealth transfers with blinded signatures of the type that provide private multisig, transaction types designed to easily facilitate CoinJoin-like functionality, etc.); Follow My Vote style voting features; escrow transactions and basic payment channels; a full micropayment network à la Bitcoin's lightning network; LS-LMSR prediction markets; Augur-like decentralized oracles; and more.

You mention LS-LMSR prediction markets / Augur-like decentralized oracles...

I wonder if this sort of thing could/should be utilised by Bitshares to aid decision making when it comes to voting on important issues. People often make poor decisions, and I'd hate to see voting done with a 'herd mentality', leading to decisions which are sub-optimal or harmful for BitShares. Knowing a little about Liquidity-Sensitive Logarithmic Market Scoring Rule prediction markets, it seems this could help people to vote beneficially. When 2.0 comes, should we set a high priority on getting such a thing implemented within BitShares so that we can use it as a tool to make BitShares even better?

I believe some huge companies make decisions by allowing employees to bet using prediction makets. I did a quick Google and found this article.

I'm not talking only about creating a prediction market...

I'm talking of using it specifically in order to optimise the development of BitShares itself!

Has this been discussed at any length in the forum? I'm tempted to start a new topic if not...

Edit; I also had a long conversation with a none-crypto trader. A professional currency trader who likes the internal marketplace..

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Quote from: btswildpig on July 14, 2015, 05:50:18 pm

it's not easy .
Said proposal would require experience in the security industry .

Bitshares has needed such expert to come onboard since BitAssets...

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