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General Discussion / Re: The Final Countdown!
« on: October 13, 2015, 01:00:47 pm »
The counter has ran out... 0:0:00:00

Woot woot, bring on 2.0

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General Discussion / Re: Let's show power of our community #13
« on: September 30, 2015, 12:11:33 pm »
I can't see an obvious way to vote, but maybe because i am a newbie account its not an option. left a comment.

BTS for the win!

come on everyone get in there and vote

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Received, Thank you Fuzzy!! :) +5%

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I would also like to know the answer to the question posed above, i guess if no
liquidity available for BitBTC i guess CCEDK could short to them selves but this
would obligate them to cover short within 30 days which could mean they have to
roll over shorts again.. i guess... would mean less Bitshares available on the
market as they would get tied up in collateral on the blockchain.

No 30 day expiration in BitAssets 2.0. They only need to put collateral and
maintain enough collateral to never get margin called.

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My Question is similar, if Altcoin trading is available via UIA this would mean
the underlying Altcoin would need to be held somewhere in order to honor the off
ramp (once you want your actual underlying altcoin back you trade your UIA to a
gateway in exchange for the altcoin it represents) meaning that solvency would
not be as visible as i first imagined given the altcoin's that the OpenLedger
network UIA represents will be in a separate blockchain and only represented by
a UIA on the Open Ledger network. further more what if the wallet holding the
altcoin is compromised?
You are correct. But I don't think many altcoins will come. Those that will be
available in OL should certainly be put into multisig coldstorage (which is btw,
not even supported my some shi*** altcoins)

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I feel like a must be missing something here and hope someone has a explanation
of the internals or some more in depth documentation of how this is working in
the backend. Don't get me wrong i love the idea but want to see how me holding
my own keys protects me from goxxing for non MPA as my keys only hold a UIA
which rely's on someone to exchange for the underlying actual asset
The problem is manifold:

Since the main purpose of a gateway is to exchange FIAT into bitFIAT, you can
have two ways, either exchange them directly, which would require the exchange
to hold bitFIAT in their reserves (no big deal with multisig corporate accounts)
and FIAT in the bank accounts (shouldn't be a big problem either, banks are
considered 'safe').

The other approach would be to issue IOUs for everything you trade on the
blockchain. Hence you send USD, and get OL.USD into your wallet and can trade
them anywhere. The exchange could make use of their extra powers over the IOU to
hold markets or withdraw stolen funds ... anyway, this approach is less consumer
friendly since you need 2 hops to get the asset you want: USD -> OL.USD ->
bitUSD.

Thanks Xeroc,

So from what i can gather the goxxing protection is from MPA's  which is the primary product, although UIA's will be available for some edge case altcoins which will rely on a central authority to secure and distribute the actual altcoins if i withdraw.  On top of that the platform allow access to bond market when available and prediction markets and i can withdraw my holding via my nanocard... i better get one these cards.

so in effect i could use this to hold my wealth while hedging against fiat currencies with other fiat or PM's and still have access to spend on day to day purchases.

sound great and I cant wait to see the slides and or video

Thanks again for your explanation :)

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Nice Presentations!

Are the slides used in the presentation available or is there a video posted somewhere?

let me talk with Ronny ... he is currently on back trip from london. i'll get back to you asap!

That would be awesome, Thank you Cass :)

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Hi Fuzzy,

I have received distribution for the most recent hangout 9.11.15 and for the first three hang outs listed on the spreadsheet just not for the four in between.

Thanks
GC

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Unlike most exchanges, you control your own private keys, so funds remain yours even when you’re trading with them. No one can reverse a transaction or freeze your account. Similarly, the exchange’s funds are all on the blockchain, totally transparently - so they can be audited by anyone, any time.

As I understand it the only way this could work is if when you deposit Bitcoin into CCEDK they give you a market pegged asset (BitBTC) in return on the BitShares blockchain. A UIA that represents BTC would become worthless if the exchange was goxxed.

Problems:
What if you deposit BTC and there is no BitBTC available to buy because no one is shorting it?
And what about for all the other altcoins where there is no volume to support a market pegged asset?
Also, what about the accusation that CCEDK as an exchange would then be operating on fractional reserves because they had to sell your BTC deposit for some derivative BitBTC that most maximalists dont want to believe even works?

I would also like to know the answer to the question posed above, i guess if no liquidity available for BitBTC i guess CCEDK could short to them selves but this would obligate them to cover short within 30 days which could mean they have to roll over shorts again.. i guess... would mean less Bitshares available on the market as they would get tied up in collateral on the blockchain.

My Question is similar, if Altcoin trading is available via UIA this would mean the underlying Altcoin would need to be held somewhere in order to honor the off ramp (once you want your actual underlying altcoin back you trade your UIA to a gateway in exchange for the altcoin it represents) meaning that solvency would not be as visible as i first imagined given the altcoin's that the OpenLedger network UIA represents will be in a separate blockchain and only represented by a UIA on the Open Ledger network. further more what if the wallet holding the altcoin is compromised?

I feel like a must be missing something here and hope someone has a explanation of the internals or some more in depth documentation of how this is working in the backend. Don't get me wrong i love the idea but want to see how me holding my own keys protects me from goxxing for non MPA as my keys only hold a UIA which rely's on someone to exchange for the underlying actual asset

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Nice Presentations!

Are the slides used in the presentation available or is there a video posted somewhere?

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General Discussion / Re: Bitshares price discussion
« on: September 16, 2015, 05:27:59 pm »
you'd want to be quick its getting put up with out you..

How about we reducing the liquidity to short sellers at the same time watch this really take hold :)

Good night all,
Seeya tomorrow... when we are all millionaires ahahahah

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Unlike most exchanges, you control your own private keys, so funds remain yours even when you’re trading with them. No one can reverse a transaction or freeze your account. Similarly, the exchange’s funds are all on the blockchain, totally transparently - so they can be audited by anyone, any time.

whats the world coming too :)

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I think it was a good time to drop the hint and will be happy to see more hints coming out.
Given the 1700GBP per ticket entry seems to make it pretty high profile. We might have some new partners and big fish swimming in the tank with us over the next few days... they probably havent even had time to research Bitshares at this point (conference still goes for another 2 hours) but i bet you its written down in a lot of notepads!!

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Great, would love to see these slides, also in the last 10 minutes the online user count has jumped a bit. 154 online ATM.

if your guest and your reading get involved, make an account and join the conversation.


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Not sure if it was common knowledge and i just missed it. But the Forbes article eludes to 8 exchanges being involved in Openledge's network, which is in effect the Bitshares network! only 3 listed on the slide so in my mind we have many more ground breaking announcements to come :)

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First!,

Great Article, this is really going to open peoples eyes to the power of Bitshares and Graphene

Great Job all involved!

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Hangout Date in Question: I attended 9/4/2015 and 9/11/2015
Mumble Name; betax
Forum Name: betax
BTS Account Name: betaxtrade
Have you put in a request in the Google Spreadsheet Document?  (Yes/No) Yes now.
Other Comments: It seems that in the last hang out the logs for for after the event. (at least the ones of pastebin), either way I'm on both dates logs. Thanks fuzzy.
i see you

9/4/2015


9/11/2015


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