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General Discussion / Re: The Final Countdown!
« on: October 13, 2015, 01:00:47 pm »
The counter has ran out... 0:0:00:00
Woot woot, bring on 2.0
Woot woot, bring on 2.0
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No 30 day expiration in BitAssets 2.0. They only need to put collateral and
I would also like to know the answer to the question posed above, i guess if no
liquidity available for BitBTC i guess CCEDK could short to them selves but this
would obligate them to cover short within 30 days which could mean they have to
roll over shorts again.. i guess... would mean less Bitshares available on the
market as they would get tied up in collateral on the blockchain.
maintain enough collateral to never get margin called.QuoteMy Question is similar, if Altcoin trading is available via UIA this would meanYou are correct. But I don't think many altcoins will come. Those that will be
the underlying Altcoin would need to be held somewhere in order to honor the off
ramp (once you want your actual underlying altcoin back you trade your UIA to a
gateway in exchange for the altcoin it represents) meaning that solvency would
not be as visible as i first imagined given the altcoin's that the OpenLedger
network UIA represents will be in a separate blockchain and only represented by
a UIA on the Open Ledger network. further more what if the wallet holding the
altcoin is compromised?
available in OL should certainly be put into multisig coldstorage (which is btw,
not even supported my some shi*** altcoins)QuoteI feel like a must be missing something here and hope someone has a explanationThe problem is manifold:
of the internals or some more in depth documentation of how this is working in
the backend. Don't get me wrong i love the idea but want to see how me holding
my own keys protects me from goxxing for non MPA as my keys only hold a UIA
which rely's on someone to exchange for the underlying actual asset
Since the main purpose of a gateway is to exchange FIAT into bitFIAT, you can
have two ways, either exchange them directly, which would require the exchange
to hold bitFIAT in their reserves (no big deal with multisig corporate accounts)
and FIAT in the bank accounts (shouldn't be a big problem either, banks are
considered 'safe').
The other approach would be to issue IOUs for everything you trade on the
blockchain. Hence you send USD, and get OL.USD into your wallet and can trade
them anywhere. The exchange could make use of their extra powers over the IOU to
hold markets or withdraw stolen funds ... anyway, this approach is less consumer
friendly since you need 2 hops to get the asset you want: USD -> OL.USD ->
bitUSD.
Nice Presentations!
Are the slides used in the presentation available or is there a video posted somewhere?
let me talk with Ronny ... he is currently on back trip from london. i'll get back to you asap!
QuoteUnlike most exchanges, you control your own private keys, so funds remain yours even when you’re trading with them. No one can reverse a transaction or freeze your account. Similarly, the exchange’s funds are all on the blockchain, totally transparently - so they can be audited by anyone, any time.
As I understand it the only way this could work is if when you deposit Bitcoin into CCEDK they give you a market pegged asset (BitBTC) in return on the BitShares blockchain. A UIA that represents BTC would become worthless if the exchange was goxxed.
Problems:
What if you deposit BTC and there is no BitBTC available to buy because no one is shorting it?
And what about for all the other altcoins where there is no volume to support a market pegged asset?
Also, what about the accusation that CCEDK as an exchange would then be operating on fractional reserves because they had to sell your BTC deposit for some derivative BitBTC that most maximalists dont want to believe even works?
Nice Presentations!
Unlike most exchanges, you control your own private keys, so funds remain yours even when you’re trading with them. No one can reverse a transaction or freeze your account. Similarly, the exchange’s funds are all on the blockchain, totally transparently - so they can be audited by anyone, any time.
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