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General Discussion / Re: Designing a logo for BlockPOS..................
« on: June 26, 2016, 02:47:41 pm »
Quote from: kenCode on June 26, 2016, 11:59:56 am
Quote from: kenCode on June 24, 2016, 05:01:41 am
Take a look at these examples:
http://50north.de/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/payment-icons.jpg

 
and these:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/94/Geldautomaat.jpg
 
The network and payment processor logos are very minimalist. 
Cirrus, Star, Giropay, vPay, DirectDebit, EC, and so on...

@kenCode, so this IS  meant to be consumer facing?  I thought you already spent a bunch of time and effort on the bitcoin and smartcoins accepted here graphics for consumer-facing display.  Can't you modify those?  I would have to agree with @lil_jay890 (probably for the first time ever) that POS is really bad for anything consumer facing.  POS as an acronym for "point of sale" is not something many people are familiar with.  If anything, @lil_jay890 is right, most people associate that with piece of sh!t, or depending on context in internet slang it increasingly may mean "Parent Over Shoulder" "positive", or "possible".  I sincerely hope you change direction on this. 

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General Discussion / Re: Designing a logo for BlockPOS..................
« on: June 26, 2016, 06:59:55 am »
Here's another version.  Actually, this is better since the "POS" looks more like an acronym due to not having "Block' in all caps.  Anyway, obviously this was adapted from the designs done by @Geneko.  I think it's smart to say "Powered by the blockchain", otherwise the point of the word "block" will be missed on most people.  Also, I think it's fitting to have icons for multiple currencies.  And it's great that the graphene mesh pays homage to the specific underlying technology.  Great ideas, @Geneko!

P.S.  Make sure you click on the image, otherwise the dimensions are a bit skewed.


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General Discussion / Re: Designing a logo for BlockPOS..................
« on: June 26, 2016, 06:37:14 am »
Howe about something like this?


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General Discussion / Re: Designing a logo for BlockPOS..................
« on: June 26, 2016, 04:16:08 am »
Quote from: lil_jay890 on June 25, 2016, 01:49:23 pm
Everytime I see POS, I immediately think "piece of shit".

I didn't even like the name OPENPOS, but didn't think it was a big deal since it wasn't consumer facing.

Ken, is there any way you could remove POS from the logo?

You would have a good point if this was aimed at consumers.  But isn't this aimed at merchants?  If that's the case, then POS is fine.

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General Discussion / Re: Designing a logo for BlockPOS..................
« on: June 23, 2016, 11:04:34 pm »
Block POS is the name of the product, right?  Do you really want make a logo for a product?  Wouldn't it make more sense to make a logo for an company/entity?  I would love to see you come up with an entity name with the word "Pay" or "Payments".  Something like Smartcoin Payments.  So that's the entity.  Then you could have products like Smartcoin POS, Smartcoin Wallet, etc.  Or something along those lines.  Just throwing it out there. 

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General Discussion / Re: Bitshares Bank UI
« on: June 19, 2016, 05:16:41 pm »
Quote from: yvv on June 18, 2016, 01:51:04 pm
Quote from: Chris4210 on June 18, 2016, 08:28:53 am
Quote from: yvv on June 14, 2016, 03:07:08 pm
For average Joe, bitshares is missing something like ripple path finding. It makes automatic currency conversions smart way. For example, suppose you save in bitGold and you want to make a payment to online shop which accepts bitUSD, but is no market between bitGold and bitUSD. The system goes and checks different order books, and finds a cheapest path for you like BitGold -> BTS -> BitBTC -> bitUSD. This is a killer feature of ripple and must have in bitshares in order to be accepted by merchants and by general public. It is not trivial to implement though.


I am afraid that this is a little bit more complex than UI tweaking.

What if we could have different skins or themes for regular and advanced users? The Ripple wallet was already very clear and had both.

I am currently looking for a graphic designer who would like to create some mockups for the BitShares Exchange.

It should have:

a) a simple interface for regular users, clear buttons, clear buy/sell/deposit/withdraw/ overview over assets
b) an advanced interface for traders, charts, order books, charting tools
c) a management interface for UIA creators etc.

Please don´t forget Voting needs to be integrated into all interfaces. It is an essential feature for our platform.

Please reach out to a designer who could help us. I would pay a bounty for a good lead.

I am afraid that this is a little bit more complex than tweaking UI. A multi hop transaction  has to be atomic, otherwise results can be unpredictable.


I think you are mistaking what is being suggested here.  At least in my mind, the idea is to have a simplified interface for users to easily exchange one asset for another.  It should be something like what Coinbase offers in their standard interface e.g. you choose how many BTC you want to buy and it tells you how much it will cost in dollars, and you click ok to complete the order. 

Obviously in the Bitshares wallet it would be more complex than that because it should be possible to trade any supported asset for any other supported asset, provided there is enough liquidity.  This would require a Blocktrades- or Shapeshift-like interface, but I don't see why there would be a need for multi-hop, atomic transactions. 

Actually, we already do have a Shapeshift-like "bridge" feature offered by Blocktrades, but I believe it's dedicated to exchanging external assets for internal ones.  I think all we need, then, is a separate interface that does the same thing for exchanging between internal assets.  @svk, @dannotestein - is there any reason this can't be accomplished fairly easily?

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General Discussion / "Show unread posts since last visit" feature not working properly?
« on: June 18, 2016, 12:24:04 pm »
Is anyone noticing that the "Show unread posts since last visit" feature is not working properly lately?  I rely on this feature to systematically read posts of interest that have been added to a thread since the last time I clicked on that thread.  It used to be that this list of unread posts would grow and grow (as it should) until I clicked on each thread to either read the new posts or just to clear uninteresting (or foreign language) threads off the list. But now the list is periodically resetting on its own before I get a chance to read the unread posts, so I am missing a lot.

Anyone else noticing this problem?  Unless it's just a problem specific to me (browser cookie issue?), this could be why the volume of posting on bitsahrestalk.org has diminished lately, or at least it could be a major contributing factor.

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General Discussion / Re: [Video] Intro to Bitshares
« on: June 08, 2016, 03:35:58 pm »
Quote from: Pheonike on June 08, 2016, 02:57:13 pm
I stop watching when he put distributed proof of stake for DPOS. How can I trust the info when he can't get the core of the product right.

Sent from my SM-N920T using Tapatalk

Your comment is a little over the top.  Obviously @Chronos understands the product and has a knack for explaining things concisely, which I think is why his worker was voted in to begin with.  Having said that, the DPoS thing was clearly an oversight and I would love to see an edit of that portion of the video.  Going forward, I think it would be good practice to run future videos by a few folks before releasing.

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General Discussion / Re: Subsidizing Market Liquidity
« on: May 13, 2016, 03:26:34 am »
@abit:

Was just wondering, how can the spread be negative?

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General Discussion / Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
« on: May 12, 2016, 04:13:17 am »
Quote from: kenCode on May 11, 2016, 01:40:19 pm
Quote from: maemon on May 11, 2016, 01:22:05 pm
While It is nice having the option to send from multiple accounts, I think it should be an op in option in the settings menu rather than the default. Again this is to save on actual day to day transaction time.
Think DoughWallet (Dogecoin wallet) on IOS, where its simplicity was literally its killer feature!

Putting the accounts you have created into that nice slim field with the little down area.. I don't think it can get any cleaner than that. Having multiple accounts was a highly requested feature, so using that little down area for something so major keeps it nice and simple IMO. I couldn't think of a better place to keep your access to those accounts other than in a select menu like that. Having to leave the app and go into the settings screen just to switch accounts seemed like it might tick some people off.

I agree.  With multiple account support, choosing which account to send from should be as simple as selecting it from the list.  Of course, in the settings, one should be able to indicate which account is the default. 

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General Discussion / Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
« on: May 12, 2016, 04:07:05 am »
Quote from: kenCode on May 11, 2016, 06:46:09 am
Quote from: tbone on May 11, 2016, 01:21:12 am
Maybe I'm missing something obvious...but why is there a "From" field on the send screen?

Because this new wallet will let you import and/create multiple accounts.

Ah, I see.  Nice!

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General Discussion / Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
« on: May 11, 2016, 01:21:12 am »
Quote from: kenCode on May 10, 2016, 06:41:37 am
The new (android-native) Smartcoins Wallet will be done by June 1st. The most complex screen is the send screen since it has to support merchants who have issued you some of their loyalty points (their uia), plus the backup asset (overdraft protection) and the ability to instantly cash out one of your other assets if you want to hold on to the currency that the merchant is requiring from you. Anyway, here is the basic layout of that screen:


Maybe I'm missing something obvious...but why is there a "From" field on the send screen?

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General Discussion / Re: how about to optimize the parameters of bitCNY like this?
« on: May 06, 2016, 03:13:03 am »
Quote from: pc on May 05, 2016, 06:38:12 pm
Quote from: xeroc on May 05, 2016, 10:22:47 am

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This is the percent to adjust the feed price in the short's favor in the event of a forced settlement.

This is what I've been saying all the time. You're stealing from the holders in favour of the shorters.

Bitcrab/Transwiser are shorters, so they clearly have their own interests at stake here, yet he claims to be acting in the best interest of the network. Just like last time we had a discussion (and rushed actionism) about forced settlement.

You need to ask yourself, do we want people to provide BitAsset liquidity or not?  Also, why should holders be able to force shorters to buy from them?  Why shouldn't holders have to sell on the open market like anyone else?  And if shorters should be forced to buy from them, then why shouldn't shorters be paid a fee for that? 

The committee was tasked with the responsibility of improving network parameters, right?  So we should have absolutely no problem doing so, if that's what shareholders decide upon.  Of course, current holders may have bought with the knowledge that they would be able to settle without a fee.  Because of that, it would be great if we could change the offset such that current holders would not be subject to it, only those buying BitAssets going forward.  But I'm sure that's impossible without some development work.  So if a proposal is put forth to change the offset and it's passed by shareholders, then we will have imposed a new fee.  Big deal.  It happens everywhere.  And if it helps encourage people to short BitAssets (why wouldn't it?), then good.

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Technical Support / Re: Depoposit and withdraw BTS from Bitshares 2.0?
« on: April 26, 2016, 02:07:14 pm »
Quote from: wolfram on April 26, 2016, 01:09:10 pm
I have managed to do what I wanted to. I like Bitshares 2.0 but there are some possibilities for usability improvement.

Possibility to choose a light/white theme in addition to the current dark/gray theme would be nice for example. I think it could improve readablitiy.

There is a light theme.  You just have to go into settings (click on the gear icon in the upper-right corner) and scroll down to set the theme.  As for Withdraw vs. Send, I can see how that might be confusing for new  users.  Maybe we should take a look at that. 

paging @svk: At the top of the Deposit/Withdraw page there is note about receiving BTS.  Perhaps there should also be a note about sending BTS with a link to the Send page?  Or maybe somehow sending, depositing, and withdrawing should be under the same main menu item (e.g. Deposit/Withdraw/Send) with one tab for sending BTS and another tab for depositing/withdrawing funds?  I'm not sure exactly what the answer is, but I think it can be improved in some way.

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General Discussion / Re: [BitShares.org] Homepage Improvements - Tips and Suggestions
« on: April 26, 2016, 11:14:45 am »
Quote from: Akado on April 24, 2016, 06:33:18 pm
Quote from: Chris4210 on April 24, 2016, 05:32:52 pm
In writing the BitShares description I noticed that we actually failed to address the right market...

BitShares in a nutshell is a trading engine software for exchange service operators like CCEDK, BitStamp, Kraken etc. Uniting all order books and give everybody more liquidity. However, the sales pitch is hard because the exchange has to give up his control over the order book and has to be 100% transparent.

Question to the community: Should the new website description rather

a) focus on people who want to build or are running an exchange already?
b) focus on companies, startups who want to connect to the global exchange via API and enable payments, trading etc. at the DEX?
c) focus on startups who want to start a crowdfunding and seek a platform for their initial coin offering (ICO)?

In the long term BitShares technology has a b2b focus and is more interesting for exchange operators or startups like BitShares Munich who build mobile payments and pos services. An individual person needs a good, solid interface to interact with BitShares.

What are your thoughts?

Why not have a usecase for each of those explained in detail? I think that would be the best, if not, then b)

I think the website should discuss the various use cases.  That should include from the end-user standpoint (e.g. cryptocurrency traders, and those that want to invest in Bitshares and perhaps participate in its governance), as well as from the standpoint of businesses that might like to build atop Bitshares including exchanges (both new  and existing), wallet providers, existing businesses that want their own tradeable crypto-token, existing cryptocurrencies that don't want or need to continue maintaining their own blockchain, etc. 

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