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General Discussion / Make Brave Browser base on truly trustless free micropayments
« on: February 09, 2016, 04:06:20 pm »
Did you heard about Brave Browser? No?

Here you have: http://www.mediapost.com/publications/article/267089/new-browser-offers-brave-solution-to-ad-blocking.html

this is browser created by former Mozilla CEO Brendan Eich, which integrate bitoins to it.

I have just created an ticket in their github (I hope, that this is the right place, and they will notice it).

https://github.com/brave/browser-laptop/issues/682

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Daniel Larimer (@bytemaster) - lead developer of cryptonomex lately proposed an idea of new way of charging fees in the bitshares network. Briefly... bitshares can be a fee-less blockchain, allowing for truly micropayments.

In first poll [91,5% of bitshares community](https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,21359.0.html) support this idea, what means that probably in near future this will be implemented.

I believe that cooperation of brave and bitshares can introduce a lot of new possibilities. People could not only send fractions of bitcoins, but actually fractions of stable bitAssets like bitUSD or bitCNY.

Moreover, sites could giveaway custom tokens (which are very easy to create on bitshares) to their readers/users, which can act like shares of blog/site/service. In that way, owner of the website can not only offer a ads free service for tiny price, but also a revenue from profits of website/blog.

It would be great deal in the future, to trade "RedditSupporter" asset for a discount buying a airplane ticket on Hipmunk.com (both services were created by A. Ohanian). Possibilities are endless :)

What do you think about this idea? I wrote an ticket, but maybe direct approach by @bytemaster could be better.

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General Discussion / Re: Ethereum price discussion
« on: February 09, 2016, 03:07:43 pm »
Quote from: xeroc on October 30, 2015, 10:06:41 am
Hopefully people start reading the whitepaper and understand what bitshares is ALL ABOUT .. not just jump on the train for a quick buck ..

Bytemaster usually announces everything as it comes in (some projects may be dealt with in the background for legal and or NDA reasons)

@xeroc don't count for that. People are too lazy to read about theory. Only thing they care is execution of the idea, quality and usefulness of end product.

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General Discussion / Re: [Public Testnet] testnet.bitshares.eu
« on: February 09, 2016, 02:11:06 pm »
@xeroc I seems that I was voted out, and right now `noisy` is no longer a witness, `necklace` is. Could I ask for the votes of the committee-members? I think it will be better to have better distribution of nodes.

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General Discussion / Re: BitShares Weekly Hot Topics, Updates and News 01/02/2016 - 07/02/2016
« on: February 08, 2016, 09:09:12 pm »
 +5%

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General Discussion / Re: Will this community be surpporting BM's "zero fee" proposal to get micropayment?
« on: February 08, 2016, 02:19:40 pm »
Quote from: lil_jay890 on February 08, 2016, 02:06:57 pm
I still don't get how witnesses are going to continue producing blocks if we remove all fees and the reserve pool runs out...  Am I missing something?

Yes... 40 minutes Q&A ;) Listen here - https://soundcloud.com/beyond-bitcoin-hangouts/e132  (from minute ~22). It is worth listening! ;)

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General Discussion / Re: Should we Abandon Proof of Stake Marketing?
« on: February 08, 2016, 10:08:38 am »
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Proof of Bandwidth

No, I would understand by this,  that I can mine coins by sharing my not used bandwidth. As far as I know, there are already a coins, which rewords users for shared hard drive space. That would be confusing.

Nevertheless, after reading this thread more carefully, I agree that changing "DPOS" to something else is not so important.

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General Discussion / Re: Will this community be surpporting BM's "zero fee" proposal to get micropayment?
« on: February 08, 2016, 09:52:33 am »

Another question...

1. Is there any other cryptocurrency on the market, which do not have fees?

BTW, With not fees I see that UIA can be much more attractive

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Marketplace / Re: What would you like to buy with bitshares?
« on: February 08, 2016, 09:16:07 am »
Quote from: tonyk on February 08, 2016, 07:09:46 am
The question is not "what I would like to buy". The questions is "what can I buy" with BTS?

No. My question is correct. I want to know, what I can offer. I would like to know, for what there is demand,

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General Discussion / Re: Should we Abandon Proof of Stake Marketing?
« on: February 08, 2016, 07:15:26 am »
Quote from: BunkerChain Labs on February 08, 2016, 07:10:02 am
Bitshares runs on POO huh? :) 

Maybe we can spin that as the eco-environmental biofuel angle. :)

I have just realized what word this will create :(

This was not intentional. Nevertheless, maybe we could came up with something with similar meaning.

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General Discussion / Re: Should we Abandon Proof of Stake Marketing?
« on: February 08, 2016, 07:01:54 am »
After reading a thread Will you vote yes on Bytemaster's "free transactions" proposal that he talked about at last shareholder meeting? and listening last beyond bitcoin hangout now I understand why this topic was created.

BM idea for me seems to be very innovative. I really like the idea, that I can buy not only a cryptocurrency, but also a right to use it bandwidth in the future. Right now bitcoins transfers seems to be cheap, but we do not know, what will happen, when Moore's law will stop work... and bitcoin network will have to rise the fees. It may be possible, that bitcoin will not scale to global usage so easily.

In the other hand, right now I can buy very easily significant amount of bitshares (because it is cheap) and buy the right to have a priority to use bitshares network for transactions.

I really like the analogy with shared house in the mountain, which can be used by all owners, according to some rules. Having that in mind, I would like to propose new name:

Proof of Ownership

it is simple, flexible... and all of us like to own things :)

This will be very easy to explain to people, that with buying a bitshares they also buy rights to:
- use network infrastructure
- vote through a system and make a decisions about their property
- as owner of the network they acquire rights to hire people (developers, witnesses)
- own the future profits (through the network effect) + future optional fees

People love to collect different things, what means that word "Ownership" has very positive connotation.

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General Discussion / Re: Will this community be surpporting BM's "zero fee" proposal to get micropayment?
« on: February 08, 2016, 06:31:40 am »
is it a big difference for witness to produce a empty block or with many many transaction?

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Technical Support / Re: OPEC OIL Price Feed
« on: February 08, 2016, 02:10:09 am »
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Technically this is quite simple.

However, these websites typically disallow just that, and they also disallow re-publishing the data. Witnesses could get into trouble if they did that.

Please correct me, but witnesses do not have to publish source of their price information? Witness also do not have to just re-publish data. It can calculate an average from few sources, and than publish this as own feed. Am I right?

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General Discussion / Re: Why there is so little trading volume on the DEX
« on: February 08, 2016, 01:08:01 am »
Quote from: jakub on February 07, 2016, 08:52:18 pm
EDIT: And do it as FBA.

What is FBA?

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Marketplace / What would you like to buy with bitshares?
« on: February 08, 2016, 01:01:59 am »
Maybe this is a silly question, but I am curious for what there is the biggest demand among bitshares community.

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Stakeholder Proposals / Re: [Worker Proposal] Blockchain maintenance developer
« on: February 08, 2016, 12:52:20 am »
Quote from: gamey on February 06, 2016, 03:54:30 pm

Slave developers imprisoned by the blockchain, working as slaves under 24/7 video surveillance by remote share holders willing to fire them a moment's notice.  Hrrrmmmm. I like.

It should not work like that :P Everyone working on bitshares are doing awesome job. It great to show other people that we are passionate about it. I streamed on livecoding 22:15 hrs of my work and I know, that is not the end. I have also learn a lot watching what other people are doing :)

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