@bitacer, @bytemaster @speedy

 Andreas Antonopoulos describes that on DailyDecrypt with Amanda: https://youtu.be/kSq-58ElBzk?t=1m48s

@dannotestein what do you think about this idea: https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=19625.0

If you become a developer employed by community, would you stream your work? It would be additional promotion and knowledge sharing For sure I would watch it!

I thought your witness is "issuer"..
Vote for yourself and you'll be listed.

Yes, the first one, but I didn't know what I did wrong, so I created another one

I am wondering what is the best way to reach more people. This event will have greater chance of succeeding if more people will know about it.

Is there anyone here who could translate first post in this topic to Chinese?

what are the requirements of the server (CPU, RAM, cores, etc)?

Will you provide a necessary support (if needed) to setup everything or willing people will have to setup everything that alone?

1. Have all of the witnesses monitor the BTC network for transfers to a designated multi-sig address which is defined by the BTS consensus to be the top 15 witness signatures (max MSIG allowed by BTC).   All of these UNSPENT OUTPUTS get included as part of BTS consensus state.

Ok, I have few questions:

1. how those 15 signatures will be distributed among witnesses? What will happen if some witness lose their key? (I doubt that mine understanding of this is correct... )

Or...

2. those 15 signatures will be somehow encrypted in the bitshares blockchain? Is that correct that then most of the witnesses (by voting power) will need to agree to use those 15 signatures to make a transaction?

Assuming, that this above is correct, why we need to use 15 signature if those signatures can be used only if witnesses will have consensus? We we cannot use 10, 2 or 1?

Is that means, that bitshares network itself will have to prove, that we have all signatures needed to make a transaction? How does it work? Is those multiple signatures has to be combined into one? (I doubt it.. because that will mean, that single request from some computer will have to be made, and that computer can intercept this precious key).

Is that mean, that bitshares network will have to prove that we have all 15 signatures? One witness will "authenticate" one signature? How network will assure, that after some time some witness will not collect all signatures? Is that mean, that network will have to prevent that one specific witness will never authenticate more than one signature? What if over time someone will gather 15 signatures by 15 different witnesses?


Disclaimer: my questions probably are silly and I guess I made quite few completely wrong assumptions, nevertheless, it would be great if someone could share more details about possible implementations of that.

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2016-02-03T01:38:29 p2p:message read_loop on_blockchain_item_i ] popping item because delegate has already seen it.  peer 46.101.188.80:11010's last block the delegate has seen is now 000007cfd012949b26c8a6c40d593a3f623d91f4 (actual block #1999)                   node.cpp:2581
2016-02-03T01:38:29 p2p:message read_loop on_blockchain_item_i ] popping item because delegate has already seen it.  peer 46.101.188.80:11010's last block the delegate has seen is now 000007d067a7b54a67501e3427d50dbfbc1ed227 (actual block #2000)                   node.cpp:2581
2016-02-03T01:38:29 p2p:message read_loop on_blockchain_item_i ] after removing all items we have already seen, item_hashes_received.size() = 0                 node.cpp:2585
2016-02-03T01:38:29 p2p:message read_loop            read_loop ] message transmission failed 10 assert_exception: Assert Exception
e.block_id != block_id_type(): Empty block_id in block_database (maybe corrupt on disk?)
    {}
    th_a  block_database.cpp:141 fetch_block_id

    {"block_num":0}
    th_a  db_block.cpp:54 get_block_id_for_num

    {}
    th_a  application.cpp:790 get_blockchain_synopsis                   message_oriented_connection.cpp:185
2016-02-03T01:38:29 p2p:message read_loop            read_loop ] disconnected 10 assert_exception: Assert Exception
e.block_id != block_id_type(): Empty block_id in block_database (maybe corrupt on disk?)
    {}
    th_a  block_database.cpp:141 fetch_block_id

    {"block_num":0}
    th_a  db_block.cpp:54 get_block_id_for_num

    {}
    th_a  application.cpp:790 get_blockchain_synopsis                   message_oriented_connection.cpp:202
2016-02-03T01:38:29 p2p:message read_loop on_connection_closed ] Remote peer 46.101.188.80:11010 closed their connection to us                  node.cpp:2957
2016-02-03T01:38:29 p2p:message read_loop display_current_conn ] Currently have 1 of [20/200] connections                       node.cpp:1728
2016-02-03T01:38:29 p2p:message read_loop display_current_conn ]    my id is c59d2ae291d36a09cc5727cf4412debfd535948fc6928f2faf3e0a7d398e73e823                 node.cpp:1729
2016-02-03T01:38:29 p2p:message read_loop display_current_conn ]    handshaking: 149.202.50.152:43304 with 000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000  [outbound]                       node.cpp:1743
2016-02-03T01:38:29 p2p:message read_loop trigger_p2p_network_ ] Triggering connect loop now                    node.cpp:985
2016-02-03T01:38:29 p2p:message read_loop schedule_peer_for_de ] scheduling peer for deletion: 46.101.188.80:11010 (this will not block)                        node.cpp:1637
2016-02-03T01:38:29 p2p:message read_loop schedule_peer_for_de ] asyncing delayed_peer_deletion_task to delete 1 peers                  node.cpp:1642
2016-02-03T01:38:29 p2p:delayed_peer_deletion_task delayed_peer_deletio ] beginning an iteration of delayed_peer_deletion_task with 1 in queue                  node.cpp:1601
2016-02-03T01:38:29 p2p:delayed_peer_deletion_task              destroy ] calling close_connection()                    peer_connection.cpp:124
2016-02-03T01:38:29 p2p:delayed_peer_deletion_task              destroy ] close_connection completed normally                   peer_connection.cpp:126
2016-02-03T01:38:29 p2p:delayed_peer_deletion_task              destroy ] canceling _send_queued_messages task                  peer_connection.cpp:139
2016-02-03T01:38:29 p2p:delayed_peer_deletion_task              destroy ] cancel_and_wait completed normally                    peer_connection.cpp:141
2016-02-03T01:38:29 p2p:delayed_peer_deletion_task              destroy ] canceling accept_or_connect_task                      peer_connection.cpp:154
2016-02-03T01:38:29 p2p:delayed_peer_deletion_task              destroy ] accept_or_connect_task completed normally                     peer_connection.cpp:156
2016-02-03T01:38:29 p2p:delayed_peer_deletion_task   destroy_connection ] in destroy_connection() for                   message_oriented_connection.cpp:283
2016-02-03T01:38:29 p2p:delayed_peer_deletion_task   destroy_connection ] Exception thrown while canceling message_oriented_connection's read_loop, ignoring: {"code":0,"name":"exception","message":"unspecified","stack":[{"context":{"level":"warn","file":"message_oriented_connection.cpp","line":204,"method":"read_loop","hostname":"","thread_name":"p2p","timestamp":"2016-02-03T01:38:29"},"format":"disconnected: ${e}","data":{"e":"10 assert_exception: Assert Exception\ne.block_id != block_id_type(): Empty block_id in block_database (maybe corrupt on disk?)\n    {}\n    th_a  block_database.cpp:141 fetch_block_id\n\n    {\"block_num\":0}\n    th_a  db_block.cpp:54 get_block_id_for_num\n\n    {}\n    th_a  application.cpp:790 get_blockchain_synopsis"}}]}                 message_oriented_connection.cpp:296
2016-02-03T01:38:29 p2p:delayed_peer_deletion_task   destroy_connection ] in destroy_connection() for                   message_oriented_connection.cpp:283
2016-02-03T01:38:29 p2p:delayed_peer_deletion_task   destroy_connection ] Exception thrown while canceling message_oriented_connection's read_loop, ignoring: {"code":0,"name":"exception","message":"unspecified","stack":[{"context":{"level":"warn","file":"message_oriented_connection.cpp","line":204,"method":"read_loop","hostname":"","thread_name":"p2p","timestamp":"2016-02-03T01:38:29"},"format":"disconnected: ${e}","data":{"e":"10 assert_exception: Assert Exception\ne.block_id != block_id_type(): Empty block_id in block_database (maybe corrupt on disk?)\n    {}\n    th_a  block_database.cpp:141 fetch_block_id\n\n    {\"block_num\":0}\n    th_a  db_block.cpp:54 get_block_id_for_num\n\n    {}\n    th_a  application.cpp:790 get_blockchain_synopsis"}}]}                 message_oriented_connection.cpp:296
2016-02-03T01:38:29 p2p:delayed_peer_deletion_task delayed_peer_deletio ] leaving delayed_peer_deletion_task                    node.cpp:1604
2016-02-03T01:38:32   p2p:connect_to_task           connect_to ] established outbound connection to 149.202.50.152:43304                        peer_connection.cpp:253
2016-02-03T01:38:32   p2p:connect_to_task      connect_to_task ] Sent "hello" to peer 149.202.50.152:43304                      node.cpp:4336
2016-02-03T01:38:32 p2p:message read_loop           on_message ] handling message hello_message_type ecf06255dd4c9559ac60ed8f40f14d1de1ae101e size 528 from peer 149.202.50.152:43304                   node.cpp:1754
2016-02-03T01:38:32 p2p:message read_loop     on_hello_message ] Received a hello_message from peer 149.202.50.152:43304, sending reply to accept connection                    node.cpp:2070
2016-02-03T01:38:32 p2p:message read_loop           on_message ] handling message connection_accepted_message_type 9c1185a5c5e9fc54612808977ee8f548b2258d31 size 0 from peer 149.202.50.152:43304                       node.cpp:1754
2016-02-03T01:38:32 p2p:message read_loop on_connection_accept ] Received a connection_accepted in response to my "hello" from 149.202.50.152:43304                     node.cpp:2095
2016-02-03T01:38:32 p2p:message read_loop           on_message ] handling message address_request_message_type 9c1185a5c5e9fc54612808977ee8f548b2258d31 size 0 from peer 149.202.50.152:43304                   node.cpp:1754
2016-02-03T01:38:32 p2p:message read_loop on_address_request_m ] Received an address request message                    node.cpp:2152
2016-02-03T01:38:32 p2p:message read_loop           on_message ] handling message address_message_type c8cdb333919f75f861da5c27eacb0e490dd5f8db size 54 from peer 149.202.50.152:43304                  node.cpp:1754
2016-02-03T01:38:32 p2p:message read_loop   on_address_message ] Received an address message containing 1 addresses                     node.cpp:2181
2016-02-03T01:38:32 p2p:message read_loop   on_address_message ]     46.101.188.80:11010 last seen 2016-02-03T01:38:36                  node.cpp:2184
2016-02-03T01:38:32 p2p:message read_loop trigger_p2p_network_ ] Triggering connect loop now                    node.cpp:985
2016-02-03T01:38:32 p2p:message read_loop fetch_next_batch_of_ ] sync: sending a request for the next items after 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000 to peer 149.202.50.152:43304, (full request is [])                   node.cpp:2424
2016-02-03T01:38:32 p2p:message read_loop           on_message ] handling message current_time_request_message_type a9c590e7455b934f7057ef7d2eb0d5294de2bf1f size 8 from peer 149.202.50.152:43304                      node.cpp:1754
2016-02-03T01:38:32 p2p:message read_loop           on_message ] handling message fetch_blockchain_item_ids_message_type caab587a9bffc5b3698c2e05cfc7a77fe605b078 size 85 from peer 149.202.50.152:43304                        node.cpp:1754
2016-02-03T01:38:32 p2p:message read_loop on_fetch_blockchain_ ] sync: received a request for item ids after 0003c963c3e2e40ded830a81cc300ab6475ec6bb from peer 149.202.50.152:43304 (full request: ["0003c958adc42cc3efe4e7e57350e4d2fb623d10","0003c95e7a05007b148a20e31bf00d0b91648042","0003c961cc3af8cf1322ef1c5ea9835fd8d0c314","0003c963c3e2e40ded830a81cc300ab6475ec6bb"])                      node.cpp:2241
2016-02-03T01:38:32 p2p:message read_loop on_fetch_blockchain_ ] reply_message: {"total_remaining_item_count":0,"item_type":1001,"item_hashes_available":[]} fetch_blockchain_item_ids_message_received.blockchain_synopsis: ["0003c958adc42cc3efe4e7e57350e4d2fb623d10","0003c95e7a05007b148a20e31bf00d0b91648042","0003c961cc3af8cf1322ef1c5ea9835fd8d0c314","0003c963c3e2e40ded830a81cc300ab6475ec6bb"]                      node.cpp:2264
2016-02-03T01:38:32 p2p:message read_loop on_fetch_blockchain_ ] sync: peer is already in sync with us                  node.cpp:2283
2016-02-03T01:38:32 p2p:message read_loop           on_message ] handling message current_time_reply_message_type 255e5eb2ff190c918061df46907837e02510699f size 24 from peer 149.202.50.152:43304                       node.cpp:1754
2016-02-03T01:38:32 p2p:message read_loop           on_message ] handling message blockchain_item_ids_inventory_message_type 90fe7a7919709a8bb314ab8a071304bd22654e04 size 40010 from peer 149.202.50.152:43304                 node.cpp:1754
2016-02-03T01:38:32 p2p:message read_loop on_blockchain_item_i ] sync: received a list of 2000 available items from 149.202.50.152:43304                        node.cpp:2522
2016-02-03T01:38:32 p2p:message read_loop on_blockchain_item_i ] is_first_item_for_other_peer: false.  item_hashes_received.size() = 2000                       node.cpp:2568
2016-02-03T01:38:32 p2p:message read_loop on_blockchain_item_i ] popping item because delegate has already seen it.  peer 149.202.50.152:43304's last block the delegate has seen is now 000000019f4f403a2cffd9026f2fa6387cf4cf2f (actual block #1)                     node.cpp:2581
2016-02-03T01:38:32 p2p:message read_loop on_blockchain_item_i ] popping item because delegate has already seen it.  peer 149.202.50.152:43304's last block the delegate has seen is now 00000002a506a79b3549404d85beb5c418476a0d (actual block #2)                     node.cpp:2581
2016-02-03T01:38:32 p2p:message read_loop on_blockchain_item_i ] popping item because delegate has already seen it.  peer 149.202.50.152:43304's last block the delegate has seen is now 0000000319c00c322ce18137b7c2d948ff75c5e1 (actual block #3)                     node.cpp:2581

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2016-02-03T01:36:32 p2p:message read_loop on_blockchain_item_i ] popping item because delegate has already seen it.  peer 149.202.50.152:43304's last block the delegate has seen is now 000007caa321ebb49d677fbcf4d8afe384c7b00b (actual block #1994)               node.cpp:2581
2016-02-03T01:36:32 p2p:message read_loop on_blockchain_item_i ] popping item because delegate has already seen it.  peer 149.202.50.152:43304's last block the delegate has seen is now 000007cbc491a6f7d747983b11e9126652d18f04 (actual block #1995)               node.cpp:2581
2016-02-03T01:36:32 p2p:message read_loop on_blockchain_item_i ] popping item because delegate has already seen it.  peer 149.202.50.152:43304's last block the delegate has seen is now 000007ccc3d140a6faf1e011b50fbaf940e4d89d (actual block #1996)               node.cpp:2581
2016-02-03T01:36:32 p2p:message read_loop on_blockchain_item_i ] popping item because delegate has already seen it.  peer 149.202.50.152:43304's last block the delegate has seen is now 000007cda8361738f0dcff6ca291eb66a109ea6a (actual block #1997)               node.cpp:2581
2016-02-03T01:36:32 p2p:message read_loop on_blockchain_item_i ] popping item because delegate has already seen it.  peer 149.202.50.152:43304's last block the delegate has seen is now 000007ce9c370aaf8ccf5dd7d71a4b9eec4df13a (actual block #1998)               node.cpp:2581
2016-02-03T01:36:32 p2p:message read_loop on_blockchain_item_i ] popping item because delegate has already seen it.  peer 149.202.50.152:43304's last block the delegate has seen is now 000007cfd012949b26c8a6c40d593a3f623d91f4 (actual block #1999)               node.cpp:2581
2016-02-03T01:36:32 p2p:message read_loop on_blockchain_item_i ] popping item because delegate has already seen it.  peer 149.202.50.152:43304's last block the delegate has seen is now 000007d067a7b54a67501e3427d50dbfbc1ed227 (actual block #2000)               node.cpp:2581
2016-02-03T01:36:32 p2p:message read_loop on_blockchain_item_i ] after removing all items we have already seen, item_hashes_received.size() = 0                 node.cpp:2585
2016-02-03T01:36:32 p2p:message read_loop            read_loop ] message transmission failed 10 assert_exception: Assert Exception
e.block_id != block_id_type(): Empty block_id in block_database (maybe corrupt on disk?)
    {}
    th_a  block_database.cpp:141 fetch_block_id

    {"block_num":0}
    th_a  db_block.cpp:54 get_block_id_for_num

    {}
    th_a  application.cpp:790 get_blockchain_synopsis                   message_oriented_connection.cpp:185
2016-02-03T01:36:32 p2p:message read_loop            read_loop ] disconnected 10 assert_exception: Assert Exception
e.block_id != block_id_type(): Empty block_id in block_database (maybe corrupt on disk?)
    {}
    th_a  block_database.cpp:141 fetch_block_id

    {"block_num":0}
    th_a  db_block.cpp:54 get_block_id_for_num

    {}
    th_a  application.cpp:790 get_blockchain_synopsis                   message_oriented_connection.cpp:202
2016-02-03T01:36:32 p2p:message read_loop on_connection_closed ] Remote peer 149.202.50.152:43304 closed their connection to us                 node.cpp:2957
2016-02-03T01:36:32 p2p:message read_loop display_current_conn ] Currently have 0 of [20/200] connections                       node.cpp:1728
2016-02-03T01:36:32 p2p:message read_loop display_current_conn ]    my id is c59d2ae291d36a09cc5727cf4412debfd535948fc6928f2faf3e0a7d398e73e823                 node.cpp:1729
2016-02-03T01:36:32 p2p:message read_loop trigger_p2p_network_ ] Triggering connect loop now                    node.cpp:985
2016-02-03T01:36:32 p2p:message read_loop schedule_peer_for_de ] scheduling peer for deletion: 149.202.50.152:43304 (this will not block)                       node.cpp:1637
2016-02-03T01:36:32 p2p:message read_loop schedule_peer_for_de ] asyncing delayed_peer_deletion_task to delete 1 peers                  node.cpp:1642
2016-02-03T01:36:32 p2p:delayed_peer_deletion_task delayed_peer_deletio ] beginning an iteration of delayed_peer_deletion_task with 1 in queue                  node.cpp:1601
2016-02-03T01:36:32 p2p:delayed_peer_deletion_task              destroy ] calling close_connection()                    peer_connection.cpp:124
2016-02-03T01:36:32 p2p:delayed_peer_deletion_task              destroy ] close_connection completed normally                   peer_connection.cpp:126
2016-02-03T01:36:32 p2p:delayed_peer_deletion_task              destroy ] canceling _send_queued_messages task                  peer_connection.cpp:139
2016-02-03T01:36:32 p2p:delayed_peer_deletion_task              destroy ] cancel_and_wait completed normally                    peer_connection.cpp:141
2016-02-03T01:36:32 p2p:delayed_peer_deletion_task              destroy ] canceling accept_or_connect_task                      peer_connection.cpp:154
2016-02-03T01:36:32 p2p:delayed_peer_deletion_task              destroy ] accept_or_connect_task completed normally                     peer_connection.cpp:156
2016-02-03T01:36:32 p2p:delayed_peer_deletion_task   destroy_connection ] in destroy_connection() for                   message_oriented_connection.cpp:283
2016-02-03T01:36:32 p2p:delayed_peer_deletion_task   destroy_connection ] Exception thrown while canceling message_oriented_connection's read_loop, ignoring: {"code":0,"name":"exception","message":"unspecified","stack":[{"context":{"level":"warn","file":"message_oriented_connection.cpp","line":204,"method":"read_loop","hostname":"","thread_name":"p2p","timestamp":"2016-02-03T01:36:32"},"format":"disconnected: ${e}","data":{"e":"10 assert_exception: Assert Exception\ne.block_id != block_id_type(): Empty block_id in block_database (maybe corrupt on disk?)\n    {}\n    th_a  block_database.cpp:141 fetch_block_id\n\n    {\"block_num\":0}\n    th_a  db_block.cpp:54 get_block_id_for_num\n\n    {}\n    th_a  application.cpp:790 get_blockchain_synopsis"}}]}                     message_oriented_connection.cpp:296
2016-02-03T01:36:32 p2p:delayed_peer_deletion_task   destroy_connection ] in destroy_connection() for                   message_oriented_connection.cpp:283
2016-02-03T01:36:32 p2p:delayed_peer_deletion_task   destroy_connection ] Exception thrown while canceling message_oriented_connection's read_loop, ignoring: {"code":0,"name":"exception","message":"unspecified","stack":[{"context":{"level":"warn","file":"message_oriented_connection.cpp","line":204,"method":"read_loop","hostname":"","thread_name":"p2p","timestamp":"2016-02-03T01:36:32"},"format":"disconnected: ${e}","data":{"e":"10 assert_exception: Assert Exception\ne.block_id != block_id_type(): Empty block_id in block_database (maybe corrupt on disk?)\n    {}\n    th_a  block_database.cpp:141 fetch_block_id\n\n    {\"block_num\":0}\n    th_a  db_block.cpp:54 get_block_id_for_num\n\n    {}\n    th_a  application.cpp:790 get_blockchain_synopsis"}}]}                     message_oriented_connection.cpp:296
2016-02-03T01:36:32 p2p:delayed_peer_deletion_task delayed_peer_deletio ] leaving delayed_peer_deletion_task                    node.cpp:1604



I have a problem with interpratation of that, however I doubt that this is because disk corruption, like logs suggest.