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Technical Support / Re: Referral process
« on: October 29, 2015, 10:32:50 pm »

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Stakeholder Proposals / Re: Developer delegate: dev.bitsharesblocks
« on: October 29, 2015, 10:18:49 pm »
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Can you at least put up a warning show ppl its not the 2.0 chain.

Exactly!

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General Discussion / Re: Referral program
« on: October 29, 2015, 09:33:41 pm »
You can find description prepared by @fav on http://blog.smartcoin.pw/2015/10/bitshares-how-to-earn-money-with.html

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In github community, only projects which has a lot of stars are considered as "worth of attention".

Here are main bitshares repositories:

https://github.com/bitshares/bitshares-2
https://github.com/bitshares/bitshares-2-ui

https://github.com/cryptonomex/graphene
https://github.com/cryptonomex/graphene-ui

I think I should also recommend very helpful repository: https://github.com/xeroc/bitshares-docker


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Technical Support / Re: Recurring & Scheduled Payments
« on: October 29, 2015, 09:18:21 pm »
Is there any ETA?

I think this is will be killer feature!

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Technical Support / Recurring & Scheduled Payments
« on: October 29, 2015, 06:49:48 pm »
On bitshares website, there is a page Recurring & Scheduled Payments. Is it possible to create recurring payments from bitshares wallet or from CLI? How to do that?

BTW. are there any other crypto-currency which can do that?

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Technical Support / Re: Need insight
« on: October 17, 2015, 11:56:32 am »
people from Polish bitcoin community says.. that 500-800 satoshi. I don't know I am not selling this now...

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General Discussion / Re: TRADE.BTC and TRADE.LTC are up and running
« on: October 17, 2015, 12:28:53 am »
So...TRADE.BTC was created by blocktrades?


So each gateway will have to create own SomethingBTC? That would be insane!

This is so overwhelming even right now with: BTC, bitBTC and TRADE.BTC. People will not use it because they will not understand it.

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Blocktrades is run by people who have commit access to the BitShares repositories.

Is that mean, that gateways would be only govern by people with commit access to BitShares? This seems to be a huge abuse of power.

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Stakeholder Proposals / Re: Lets vote for lower fees!
« on: October 17, 2015, 12:10:28 am »
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Keep it and let's see this baby grow.

You are kidding me!? You prefer to step back rather than fix the issue? People really complains about that:



This kind of fees really makes bitshares useless for all people in my country. This could be the reason why I could stop using bitshares.

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General Discussion / Re: TRADE.BTC and TRADE.LTC are up and running
« on: October 17, 2015, 12:01:33 am »
I have few questions:

1. Why I cannot find  BTS_TRADE on Exchange Tab?



I can only go there with link:
https://bitshares.openledger.info/#/exchange/trade/BTS_TRADE.BTC

2. When market history will be fixed? (reported https://github.com/cryptonomex/graphene-ui/issues/339, known isuee since 17 June!!!)

3.

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Minimal counter party risk.   Right now you have to trust the exchange with both BTS and BTC.   Now you only have to trust the Gateway with BTC.

No. This is not minimal. I think all TRADE_BTS can be stolen by the owner of the gateway. Why this just cannot automatically buy bitBTC with BTC? Gateway should automatically provide an information about rate bitBTC/BTC and when user deposit real BTC on gateway those BTC should be automatically converted to bitBTC.

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Stakeholder Proposals / Re: Lets vote for lower fees!
« on: October 16, 2015, 11:22:21 pm »
Suddenly I understood the power of no truly requirenment of fee in bitcoin. As far as I know, you do not have to pay a large fee, but you have to remember, that this will mean, that miners will authorize more profitable transactions first. If I want to have a proper speed, I need to pay more - fair enough.

This also mean, that miners are greedy, what is good in that case, because in that case miners are just workers of the network, and they should work as hard as they can, to process all data.

I think the best idea should be to:
- lower the cost of the network. If you want to make a profit, maybe we should not spend so much at the first place? Are miners really need to earn so much? As far as I know, they earn much more that then need to cover the expenses.
- fees should be dynamic. If the there is a lot of transactions in the network, then fee should be higher. If processing is cheap because there is not much transactions to process, fees should be very low.

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Stakeholder Proposals / Re: Lets vote for lower fees!
« on: October 16, 2015, 11:09:06 pm »
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What about 0.1% fee with a minimum fee of $0.01 and a maximum of say $0.10

That way if you send/receive <$10 you only pay $0.01. $25 is $0.025 etc..

I think, that would be fair.

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Stakeholder Proposals / Re: Lets vote for lower fees!
« on: October 16, 2015, 11:02:31 pm »
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"How can we be profitable from day 1?"

That is good approach, but somehow bitcoin do not earn money... and most of people don't care about that. Why? Because they believe in the massive adoption of bitcoin in the future, and then all people will earn money every day, just by not spending so huge transaction fees to the banks.

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"How can we be profitable from day 1?"

One more time... this is good approach if you want to create a company which will sell ice creams on the street. But if you want to lunch a rocket and land on the mars... you just cannot think about the profit in the short term. INNOVATION NEED INVESTMENTS - simple as that.

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"How do we attract more users to what we've got?"

And this is another misunderstanding. 99% of people are consumers... so we should allow them consume cheap. I don't understand an idea, that suddenly we want to only attract people which want to be a "referral entrepreneur" at the expense of average user.

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Stakeholder Proposals / Re: Lets vote for lower fees!
« on: October 16, 2015, 10:32:58 pm »
I never thought I would use arguments like that... but you all probably see "The Social Network" Movie. Do you remember the scene with Sean Parker?

"Hey, you know what? Settle an argument for us. I say it's time to start making money from The Facebook.. "

Take a look: https://youtu.be/dU6scly2AFU?t=1m17s


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