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General Discussion / Re: Liquidity, Liquidity, Liquidity
« on: April 02, 2017, 02:19:31 pm »


overnight big change in BTS value
seems like volume picked up BTS gained 18%

If I can be help in any way, please let me know

please dont ask for technical help, I dont have a clue

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General Discussion / Re: Liquidity, Liquidity, Liquidity
« on: April 02, 2017, 02:02:02 pm »
anyone can persuade polo to open a BTS/USDT pair? that will help a lot.

I would, but dont even know what is POLO
more info please

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General Discussion / Re: Bit20 - The cryptocurrency index fund
« on: April 02, 2017, 01:25:38 pm »
MarkoPaasila
If the price rises 300% per year on average, and you bought at 2 x feed price, you will need to wait approximately 8 months, and you can force settle your Bit20 to receive as much BTS as you once invested.
You can also put up a sell order at the same premium you paid. I'm sure someone will pick it up. I will buy it from you if you sell it at 1.5 x price feed.




I dont think your post is funny, this is a real issue, its not about what you would buy when get it cheap, DEX this is not a used car-dealership..this supposed to be a market where one invest and risk his hard earned money, I would rather go to poloniex and buy all 20 individually  and sell for market price, before I have to sell for much less because I need money or need cash to buy e.g. Dash, what about that idea?
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General Discussion / Re: Why only #3?
« on: April 01, 2017, 04:47:49 pm »
Q: Trading interface? I am not a trader, what tools specifically are lacking in order of importance?


DEX can have all tools of the world, without liquidity, it want work
We have exchanges they work, dont know they have better tools , but I know they have execution, which equals liquidity

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General Discussion / Re: Bit20 - The cryptocurrency index fund
« on: April 01, 2017, 04:43:31 pm »
How much should I be ready to pay for Bit20 in terms of USD? What will the price be when markets are efficient and price discovery has happened? Do you expect it to continue trading above feed price?

if we dont have liquidity, I want bother to buy into, regardless the price, what good does it do, when price rise but you cant sell. get the liquidity in order and you will have a viable market, I promise
I own a few BIT20 but I do not even bother to look at it, why should I, can buy cant sell for some time to come, takes days or weeks ..there is not a market, its monopoly, just monopoly is over after a few hours, its sad, because I love the idea a lot

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General Discussion / Re: Why only #3?
« on: April 01, 2017, 04:37:56 pm »
somebody suggest:
My thoughts:
Hardware wallet support is sorely needed. Trezor. This would prevent anybody but the trader from spending funds, and would neutralize the security-threat of personal-computer virus'. Traders could trade from almost any computer or android device of their choosing with complete peace-of-mind. On the go, at airports, on public wifi in cafes, etc


The exchange lacks liquidity. Big players aren't going to transfer their $10k's of money into the DEX if they can't even buy that much bitUSD all at once...

I really dont know what to say besides:
To be honest, I dont understand one bit of the necessity of an Openleger exchange  platform, if it does not have any liquidity...why would I like to trade Dash for ETH or BTC if I dont even get a quote..lets stand an order filled for a reasonable price..and if I get one price are so far apart that makes this exchange only a waste of surfer space.
Perhaps OL spend more money on maintaining DEX than they make money off it,
which I would call a waste of time and money
For me adding more tokens is like adding water to a hole without a seed in it..

OL can add all kind of Coins they want, this does not help the exchange a bit, if no money their to execute orders.

An very beautiful example is BTWTY 20 index fund, which would be a very powerful index and desirable, but this is like a brand new Ferrari without gasoline, no movement.

Dont understand why OL is not focusing on this opportunities more..
most of OL based tokens are only traded on DEX,
only to realize is that some ppl know more than other and sell some tokens like BTSR like crazy ,
which makes me thinking whats going on, is this an exchange of insider trading...

Might be some just sell because, because they dont like to hold on tokens which only lose on value..
What happens with BTS is smart ppl talk about something but dont do nothing to improve.

sometimes I have a feeling that there is not a real interest to change things , which is sad,
BTS is like a fish of lead, going down slowly but surely, while other sore like crazy , dont know why,   I know something has to be done to make BTS more attractive to the world, not only a few thousand followers .

I would love to hear more of your thoughts about what BitShares is LACKING.


EXPOSURE, EXPOSURE, EXPOSURE
as a trader I would not trade a currency that nobody trades to begin with,
this exchange seams not to be in the internet time cyberspace, rather like smoke sign time, where ppl like to buy gold have to wait days or weeks to get execution..

 I feel this is the case with BTS based tokens at the moment, only a few ppl know about BTS , compare to the entire crypto movement, others which know,  dont touch it, lack of interest I guess

PS: dont get hung up on the cheap execution commission,
this is like asking a blind to tell you which color has the passing car.

I rather pay more commission and get filled for the prize I ask for.
What good does it, to pay 2 cents commission for an order when I only can get filled after I have to pay 50 dollar more for BTC because I did not get filled..
its a numbers game, that's for the engineers to consider..

The most advanced system isnt worth a dime if it does not fulfill the needs of the user...


that's about what I have to say after more than a year with OL DEX....

sorry for my English, I promise its better than my engineering skills..lol
 


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General Discussion / Re: more professional price feed?
« on: April 01, 2017, 03:34:44 pm »

I did not have a clue when I put my money up for an adventure


and that's a huge problem I see in almost every ICO. clueless people throwing money at something they do not understand.

fav, you are right, but somehow ppl with a clue dont know either what to do, they jump from one thing to an other, and leaving the important part behind..important is , finish what you started with, try to make it as perfect as possible and then move on, because have bake stuff does not taste good..
also it makes one unbelievable
BTW: without ppl not having a clue, this markets would not stand a chance to evolve, just a reminder, dont treat them like idiots..they through money at these projects, and lots of ppl have to eat because of it, never bite the hand that feed you

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Other Projects / Re: bloggersclub
« on: April 01, 2017, 02:02:42 pm »
I am sure its is only a matter of becoming an
account holder and pay the member-fee

us my link if you want too..

https://goo.gl/94P2Jx

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General Discussion / Re: Why only #3?
« on: April 01, 2017, 01:50:54 pm »
MT4 platform, easy, liquid and fast execution
perhaps I pay a bit more, but I get in and out in a heartbeat
Could you expand on this?
Is this a competing crypto-exchange?
Cheers

nope is not crypto-exchange, it is just a Broker which offers to trade BTC/USD and this is all what matters to me, fast and furious :), I know my fee, no manipulation no wait , enter order and get filled in a second , sell/ buy same ..I dont care about any other thing as a trader, as long as I get what I ask for..
which is not the case with OL exchange at all
I dont need to become a scientist nor do I want too, to understand how this Broker works, because I am not, I trade and make or lose money...that is all what counts to me..
The problem with this new exchanges is, only a few ppl understand it and because they do, they dont understand why
none technician dont and because of it, getting scared...and live in uncertainty

Better OL changes this, because I will not trade at this platform if I get much better options

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General Discussion / Re: more professional price feed?
« on: April 01, 2017, 01:35:09 pm »

as an investor of BTS, Obits, ICOO, BTSR, BlockPay, Nexium, ETH etc..
this blows my mind and makes me very leery on top of it, what is going on.
I do not understand , nor do I like too learn to understand as an investor
what is going on with all the price of any of my investments..

I did not have a clue when I put my money up for an adventure
 that proof one better is an scientist to understand where one put his money into.

I guess its time to get this matter straiten before more and more potential investors get scared off.

oops what did I get into..looks like only pretty tech advanced ppl know whats going on, the rest is left in limbo at best.

I have a feeling that this can become a bigger issue, and it is already, otherwise we would not have to talk about

just my 2 cents

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THIS IS CHEATING

really, cheating, cheating who?
nobody takes any money from ppl
the contrary

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Faking volume is a bad idea in any case, IMO.

It's even worse when discussed in a public forum. Now even if we have that much real volume nobody's going to believe it.


It's not fake if real bids and offers are being filled. 
Just like market making shows real market depth even though it is often done by the exchange itself.


agree and to make it more clear..we still vote for new or old politician, despite we know they lie.
so fake or better lie advertising does sell cars,
dont call it fake, call it
making awareness of something thats little known..
same goal different name

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General Discussion / Re: Why only #3?
« on: March 31, 2017, 05:04:42 pm »
@tbone

I think you misunderstood and read too much into it. All I said was that we need to improve the trading interface (opinion) to move up in rank and attract more traders. The interface gets improved all the time so that's great!
Here is an example of a features rich Forex Trading platform:

this looks like fun!
Trading interface is very important for traders. If someone is trading for living needs a reliable toolbox to trade on.


being a trader for quite some time, cant agree more
ppl here like it or not, if its difficult noobs will not come and not trade, never have never will when better options are out their
promise, if not updated this will not work

one thing I like to mention ..I am MEMBER of OL for more than a year now, I trade Bitcoin / Dollar or BTC/USD on a MT4 platform, easy, liquid and fast execution
perhaps I pay a bit more, but I get in and out in a heartbeat

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General Discussion / Re: Why only #3?
« on: March 31, 2017, 04:58:29 pm »
@tbone

I think you misunderstood and read too much into it. All I said was that we need to improve the trading interface (opinion) to move up in rank and attract more traders. The interface gets improved all the time so that's great!
Here is an example of a features rich Forex Trading platform:

this looks like fun!
Trading interface is very important for traders. If someone is trading for living needs a reliable toolbox to trade on.


being a trader for quite some time, cant agree more
ppl here like it or not, if its difficult noobs will not come and not trade, never have never will when better options are out their
promise, if not updated this will not work

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General Discussion / Re: Why only #3?
« on: March 31, 2017, 04:54:46 pm »
@sahkan
You're right on this one. In order to find, for examle DASH:BTS you have to set BTS tab as active. In order to make that market visible you have to click the grey star. And finally, search full name of asset, in this case OPEN.DASH - prefix is hidden in the GUI.
This is confusing and I'm afraid facelift is not enough.

problem is liquidity, try to sell/buy the quotes are ridiculous or never filled, thats why DEX is not as desirable IMHO
and I agree as well on the trading platform lack of possibilities and lots of confusion
Also if you want to see an other asset, you have to search and add it..how does somebody new or seldom use the platform know all this..
for somebody to say its easy, perhaps is like me a truck driver telling a 16 year old girl driving a Truck in a narrow street is easy

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