When arhag talks I just listen, always great....I only disagree that I really like the way workers are put on the table, is there uncertainty over it? Yes, if you dont delivery you have to improve your game,
Is it fair? Depends, for someone it is for other maybe not....call me.crazy, but I really like it
What I miss is an automatic way to follow up, see expenses, details of what have been doing, but the way it is right now I really.like.....
Nothing will be perfect in dac, we have to adapt ourselves to it let the ruler rules....

I of Ico, fork, dilution....talk about it when you have a guy that want to put big money into it....dont speculate
If it, if that..... You think if waves, lisk got that money you are going to get the same or more the same way...just delusion, you probably will no get 50btc if 90% of coins stay in a few pair of hands........n if it does not work? New dilution?  Merger? New ico? Rebranding?

You have to believe in bitshares n do your share instead waiting for some magical money pay yours bills or print new money from reserves....money dont come from magic.....money doesnt come from nowhere....
To give some credibility to bitshares stop give uncertainty lets do it, lets do that with supply, lets merge, lets dilute......make something in what you believe because what I see here is that people want money for everything they do........why do not share risk of the new feature? Partnership if in the future it works both gains......you need be creative because beg for money all the time just paint a portrait of a deep troat sucker.

Quote from: bitsharesbrazil on June 09, 2016, 06:43:40 pm

You can fork any time, but who is going to follow you? Bitshares holders will not, big guys will not, the market will not, brwnd recongnition will not, awareness will not, community will not,

But if you can find BiG new money for it fork it make an ico, dump early at no cost, develop n let community judge if you have either.

Who said that they will not? Are you a representative of all big holders? I am just setting a question that has MANY pros and a few cons. If the community says no, we don't want this fork, but we are still up for going through the slow way of not spending then fine. Getting paid by the blockchain at current rates and with the current split in the community, is painful, slow and many times you don't even get paid. Who wants to get paid by a blockchain who can revoke the contract anytime or whose token value is dropping day by day?

Lisk got 6M, Waves 16$ and there are more to come. We need about 500.000$ and we'll become huge. Otherwise, we can wait for developers to get some pennies, so that they can fix a few bugs and the documentation then we are done.

We are so much smaller than bitcoin, that the holders can offer less than 500.000$/y, but Bitshares needs a lot more in order to grow, otherwise it is going to die slowly. Many people already say that BitShares is dead and they are not that wrong. If people keep thinking that way, then BitShares will die, because hey, that's the word on the street, so it must be true.

Bitshares dead? A lot of data dont say that, for me it is stronger n much stronger than before....do your research again.

Average people does not make a diference in lisk ico, lisk ico was small targeting average investor. The only diffent thing is ethereum. ico party will be over soon n.we will start mining party again.



Is it fud because the price has to go up now?

An automatic sidechain is pretty cool...but if we could improve just a little bit faster trading volume on dex I would be delighted......
A sidechain is a great project, bts price will have to apreciate probably to.fund this with huge buys wall.....so we.can.fund it with confidence

If we.could sort simple things n make it more useful n gain traction a little bit faster would be great while we shift on the long term big things, just my 2bts

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Quote from: Stan on June 08, 2016, 05:33:11 pm

Sorry to see this OP.  I guess my subtle hints were too subtle...

Ahh, the old "trough of sorrow"...brings back memories.

...painful, painful memories...

Curious to see if a "product/market fit" will truly be found.

...or if BitShares will forever be lost in the "Chasm of Startup Doom"...



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bitshares is more amazing even comparing with ethereum...... A lot of people know this.......I you alredy see a good number of newcomers....take a look at other project n you see bitshares is growing even in this downtrend......this is positive......people talking about it is increasing too...... People are realizing that there is too much fud to shake weak heands.....but of course it didnt work people are not naive anymore everybody want a good deal, n that is fair.....even if bitshares goes to zero more people will come.....soon will start climb n it will be so fast, so strong, I believe we will top alt marketcap when we this train gain some traction n start to show his power....

You sound like Stan from 2 years ago and 50 million dollar market cap higher...

I must be honest with you....I have been watching bitshares for loooooooong time......it was a baby beast two years ago.....bitcoin was surfing media wave, bitshares n dan enjoy it a lit bit too.....but it was the end of party, just too late to see moon wasnt the right time to moon.....now a lot of people know bitcoin is going to fly...a lot of people sitting in bitcoin looking for the best projetc to get onboard, more people will sit on btc next months....
N imagine wich is the most promissing n stable n undervalued projetc in cryptosphere?
YES, IT IS BITMOOOOOOOOOOOONSHAREEEEEEEESSSSSS

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Holding the token doesn't do anything except give you voting rights.

You need BTS collateral to borrow smart coins. And it is also used as bridge currency de facto.

If fees are paid in bts, if bts is.a.bridge, if token is exchangeble in a decentrilised way, if  a good number of people hold.it n trade it certainly has some value

Now fella? Bitcoin is in his bull run, soon peoe will jump like crazy in bts.....noway to dump right now

@xeroc

My opinion, with documentation we have,  keep improving it plus forum where you find what you want n ask what you want is enought for a person that iswanting a deep involvment n enjoy the dac features, eventually he/she will ask somenthing, focus should be always mantain n upgrade documentation, make language more user friendly, associate examples.