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General Discussion / Re: Guys, Let's play with bitEUR!
« on: March 28, 2020, 01:28:42 pm »
@litepresence

You can play your scam with yourself be happy.
Bitassets are the repeated scam coins, not honest mpa. Get the facts right - bitcny & bitusd are dead scam coins, biteur will likely suffer the same fate as they're controlled by the same actors who implemented the BSIP76 scam.

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Why would anyone force settle bitCNY whilst the price feeds are actively fraudulent? Seems like a direct attack on all smartcoins to drive users back to the bitasset scam coins, it will fail.

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General Discussion / Re: Review of BAIP2
« on: March 28, 2020, 01:25:32 pm »
BAIP2 completely failed; BSIP76 has once again had to bail out bad debtors by mandatory theft of asset value from bitasset holders. Bitassets are effectively scam coins with this arrangement.

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And this can't happen in BTS to remove the scammers from the platform?

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There's the ongoing black swan incident in bitassets now - the mandatory theft of asset value from bitasset holders by bsip76 proponents. Global settlement would have at least retained some resemblance of honour/integrity, instead they're permanently identifiable as scam coins.

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General Discussion / Re: ANN: HONEST Market Pegged Assets
« on: March 28, 2020, 01:21:23 pm »
@litepresence

Why you not to make a proposal for bitUSD and unlock the feed price of bitUSD?I think this proposal will get lots of voting.

or chose a team from committees and wittness to manage bitUSD who you or the holder of bitUSD think is suitable, what do yo think? :)
Honest assets were created in response to bitassets becoming fully fraudulent. You're delusional if you think anyone's going to spend any time on repeatedly proven scam coins.

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Ok, let's check the others how to design the stable coin, how to to prevent bad debt.

Maybe this can awaken someone.

MOV Stable Financial System

https://cdn.bytom.io/res/MOV-Stable-EN.pdf
Another NON solution. The solution was global settlement. Stop evading the consequences of bad gambling. BSIP76 shames CNY on an international level.

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General Discussion / Re: Hello 👋
« on: March 28, 2020, 01:19:00 pm »
if using the global settlement to crash all the debtors, then the confidence and liquidity will lost very quickly, no one want to come in again.

if using the BSIP71 or lock the feed price, the devalue of bitasset will become very seriously, the market will lost confidence very quickly too, and will harm the benifit of the holder of bitasset, they will leave very quickly.

You think anyone has any confidence left in bitassets to lose? It's entirely gone now mate, people are already unlikely to return. bitCNY & bitUSD have already been SEVERELY devalued, upwards of 71% as mentioned above, there is ZERO benefit to the asset holder from this, thus there can be no confidence in these dead scam coins any more. BSIP76 proponents chose this future, it cannot be forgotten. IMO they should lose the 'bit' prefix for being confirmed scam assets.

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General Discussion / Re: Hello 👋
« on: March 21, 2020, 12:43:28 pm »
How did BitShares handle the market crash?
The Bitshares network remained fully operational, however bitUSD & bitCNY have not fared well at all.

BSIP76 established a 'minimum feed threshold price', once BTS price goes below this value the feeding mechanism stops accurately feeding the real reference feed price, instead resorting to a false fixed feed value.

This has triggered twice now, once back in late 2019 (https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=29654.0;all) which lasted several months, and now once again for more than a week due to the recent price collapse.

This is mandatory socialized loss of value to bitUSD/bitCNY holders to benefit debt holders (bad gamblers), as such these bitassets are no longer legitimate stores of value.

Vote weight should have been revoked once placed into debt positions, as bitasset holders had no say in this mandatory theft of value.

bitUSD with a fixed feed of 29 BTS/bitUSD at the lowest BTS price of $0.009265 (on 13th march 2020) equates to $0.268685 , 73% below the peg, even if you account for an MCR of 1.6x0.268685 that's only 0.429896 ie this is blatanty global settlement territory.

Since the price feeding and global settlement mechanisms have been cheated there exists no logical reason to hold these assets long term as that simply leads to theft of asset value instead of an opportunity to grow ones BTS balance.

What's pretty nuts though is that the official bitshares.org website still doesn't mention any of this thread's concepts/history, rather it continues to mislead investors with an old vision of what bitassets should have been. https://bitshares.org/technology/price-stable-cryptocurrencies/ Changes have been proposed to correct these inaccuracies, some feedback would be great https://github.com/bitshares/bitshares.org/pull/111

Quote from: bitshares.org
In the meantime, all participants can rest assured that BitUSD is always worth at least $1, and can consider the premium for entering the ecosystem as a one-time fee.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4Uw3m_dPpw

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Stakeholder Proposals / Re: [Poll] BSIP76:Set bitUSD feed threshold
« on: March 21, 2020, 12:25:30 pm »
Back to feeding fake bitUSD price feed values, fail. bitUSD is not a store of value anymore for holders.

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Why would you add fraudulent assets to the contest?

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Stakeholder Proposals / Re: [Poll] BSIP76:Set bitUSD feed threshold
« on: December 31, 2019, 12:57:10 pm »
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Recognise the reality. @R

So Who was dumping bts to the market?beos?oh

This has zero relevance to bitUSD being more than 50% devalued by BSIP76. Long term holders dumping is a symptom of refund400k & bsip76 consequences imo.

Oh. @R

Recognise the reality.

What blind your mind for so long time?
The devaluation of bitassets by bad debtors is worse than holders dumping BTS.

The current BTS/USD market rate is 1/$0.014788 (67.62239 BTS/USD feed price).

The current bitUSD feedprice of 28.98551 BTS/USD is 57% below the real market trading value; a severe devaluation of bitasset holdings.

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General Discussion / Re: BSIP reorganization?
« on: December 21, 2019, 01:06:33 am »
Since the current core dev team is not renewing their WP in 2020, who will implement these BSIPs?

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Stakeholder Proposals / Re: [Poll] BSIP76:Set bitUSD feed threshold
« on: December 21, 2019, 01:04:19 am »
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Recognise the reality. @R

So Who was dumping bts to the market?beos?oh

This has zero relevance to bitUSD being more than 50% devalued by BSIP76. Long term holders dumping is a symptom of refund400k & bsip76 consequences imo.

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Stakeholder Proposals / Re: [Poll] BSIP76:Set bitUSD feed threshold
« on: December 18, 2019, 06:08:16 pm »
It's time to change strategy... I think it's time to activate the BAIP2, let us try this one as it is obvious that threshold feed price is no longer working, or better still deactivate BSIP76 for now, I think debtors have been given enough time to pay their debts...  BitCNY and BitUSD are now devalued by over 30%, they are currently useless as they cannot perform the role they are originally meant to play ... As stable coins meant to be used as a hedge with BTS, it may originally worked by having a threshold but right now it's no longer working
BAIP 2 does not negate bsip76, you would need to propose a new BSIP76 style vote or a new BAIP for a new feed price.

BitUSD is devalued by 53.62%.

BTS:USD=0.016
28.98551*0.016=$0.46376816‬

The current price feed threshold aught to be be set to approx ‭62.5‬ BTS/bitUSD.

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