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General Discussion / Re: Maker sharedrop on the BitShares community
« on: August 11, 2015, 03:04:03 pm »
Can you say what public blockchains are looking to implement EVM that you know of so far?

Nothing that I know of. There's one that wants to sharedrop onto BTC I think.

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@bytemaster, would you mind speaking to the feasibility of implementing EVM into Bitshares sometime down the road and whether that could fit into your vision?  Thanks.

BM doesn't want to implement the EVM because it is slow and can't capitalize on graphene's architecture.
You can read someone's thoughts here (vikram's?)  https://github.com/cryptonomex/graphene/wiki/blacklizard-app-finarch#black-lizard--be-the-platform-not-the-app

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General Discussion / Re: Maker sharedrop on the BitShares community
« on: August 11, 2015, 02:45:40 pm »
Out of curiosity, though...why not just build this on bts and try to compete directly with bitUSD?  It seems pretty clear that ethereum not as capable (at present) to compare with bitshares both on a governance side (ethereum needs it's own "foundation" while bitshares has implemented separations of power and delegates)...and that isn't even talking about scalability and throughout potential.

It is harder to develop a BTS fork than to write a dapp for ethereum. Ethereum very clearly places developers first and cares only about providing a good toolchain for building dapps.

You are missing the point if you think there's a governance problem. We build our own governance model into our dapp(which again is easier to make dynamic and future-proof). The blockchain is more like a platform. We really don't care at all about what the ethereum foundation does because the protocol is set in stone and there is strong consensus about it.

Scaling (so, transaction costs long term) is the only problem.

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Guys it wasn't a hype bubble. There was no panic buying. All that happened was for about a day only a small % of sellers could sell, just like how BTS lost 50%+ (30%? I forgot actually) in the first days after launch before rallying because sellers couldn't sell.

The "bubble" lasted exactly as long as the kraken deposit confirmation period for non-KYC'd customers.

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Technical Support / Re: Need help building BitShares via Terminal
« on: August 09, 2015, 05:30:59 pm »
try cloning via https:

Code: [Select]
git clone https://github.com/bitshares/bitshares.git

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I have to say though. The ETH stack actually delivers on the promise to create your own DACs. While BitShares has been mostly talk, Stan memes and what not.

I love the ETH stack. It's not perfect and can be improved, there are scalability issues down the road, but reading the blog posts I have faith they are on the right track to solve all these issues.

Cheers!

 +5%

If they just adjust people's expectations about what kinds of dapps are sustainable in the long term (what the price per trx really is), they're golden.

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Kraken enabled deposits for KYCed customers first or figured out how to post collateral, who were a tiny subset of users. The inital $3 price was clearly artificial just like BTS price on launch (in that case it was just one exchange honoring the sharedrop).

Right now most presale buyers are able to cash out with minimal effort. Curious how far the presale selloff will take it.

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They need ~"another year" to deliver on a scalable POS + a standard UI to interact with dapps. They have already delivered on the VM and toolchain, which is good enough for most applications. The groups working on those can externalize all the extra costs (POW + usability dev in unstable environment) to the eth community

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The whole thing is slick and looks like it could get a jumpstart on BTS UIA's.

The "short token" is the most interesting thing here, I think.
http://t0.com/shorttoken

Wondering if their tech stacks up though.

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General Discussion / Re: For those who want a test net...
« on: August 04, 2015, 06:17:11 pm »
My only concern regarding the new BitShares GUI comes down to a technical limitation: as a web app it does not allow to split the GUI into separate pages, each keeping track of its own state.
The easiest way to explain it would be by this example: I'd like to be able to do some trading on the Exchange page, then go to my account transaction history page to check something and then go back to the Exchange page and see it exactly as I left it.
As far as I know such multi-tasking is not yet be possible in JavaScript.

You can easily maintain state across multiple "tabs" in any good javascript app framework. You don't keep the data in the dom.

There's no true multi threading but nothing ever blocks either...

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General Discussion / Re: Stale Slates
« on: August 04, 2015, 02:00:34 pm »
Ok, it seems like there was a wallet upgrade recently which changed the format, and past approvals were ignored. I made a fresh one without bad delegates, will add approvals after individual review

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General Discussion / Re: Guess who is launching a Bitcoin2.0 network?
« on: August 04, 2015, 12:59:22 pm »
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He's right that the Bitcoin community is extremely narrow-minded. But he's only half a step ahead of them.

I think this

His criticism of BTS can be summarized as "it is not actually profitable so it is bad collateral" which is TRUE, he just didn't see how it could possibly become true with more development, and chose a bad tone. To be fair the messaging at the time made BTS look like an outright scam.

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General Discussion / Re: Stale Slates
« on: August 04, 2015, 12:53:19 pm »
How do I specify the slate? I changed my local approvals and did wallet_publish_slate dev0.nikolai and I got "Cannot publish the null slate!"

Cast votes for delegates within the delegate wallet with the same command you use like any other user.

Then publish it like you did above. At least that's what I understand.


You don't "cast votes", you set approval and then move funds around. I set approval, then tried to publish. Where does the slate it attempts to publish come from? Before it was approved delegates in your wallet
. It definitely shouldn't depend on what specifically I'm voting for with any BTS in that wallet.


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General Discussion / Re: Stale Slates
« on: August 04, 2015, 12:32:06 pm »
How do I specify the slate? I changed my local approvals and did wallet_publish_slate dev0.nikolai and I got "Cannot publish the null slate!"

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Graphene can be made programmable while retaining the features that make it fast. For most contracts the necessary language restrictions would not be a problem. For the few where it does, you just have to hard fork.

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General Discussion / Re: post in reddit for bithshares any comments ?
« on: August 04, 2015, 12:48:10 am »
It is important to remember that this was before price feeds with expiration were introduced

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