Quote from: clockwork on December 28, 2018, 07:41:43 am

@alt, You're wrong on this one.

Crazybit FINALLY updated his feeding script (which you were right to be upset about) but he is not cheating now.

He is not FOLLOWING median price, instead his feed is SETTING median price most of the time (which means he is very accurate)

This becomes obvious if you don't track by hand but instead use zapata's tracker to look at his and other witnesses feeding activity: http://pricefeed-tracker.dex.trading/

can you told me how obvious he is not follow the median price?
did you see the snapshot about how exactely his feed price change after the median price?
and thank you, this chat show more clear that how exactely every 5 meniutes his price followed the median price. just choose the price from crazybit and median price.

in case you don't know how to see the chart, I will tell you the detail:
1. open http://pricefeed-tracker.dex.trading/
2. input crazybit in publisher,
3. input 2018/12/26 10:00:00 am in "From"
4. check the box "feed median"
you will see a chart like below, you can see every 5 minutes(10:15, 10:20, 10:35, 11:00, 11:05, 11:10 etc), the feed  price from crazybit will followed the median price.
in fact everytime he refresh the feed price, he always drop to the median price exactely.
other time, they are the same. even at 10:05, when he just changed back from 30% higher price, he droped to the median price exately.


after that, you can try to see other's feed price, you'll know what's the real price from outside should be.
here is a sample from magic wallet.witness, you can see every time he refresh the price, it's random arround the median price.

Quote from: alt on December 28, 2018, 03:30:35 am

I consider you have nothing to explain about those snapshot.
so I still hold the view you cheat us with a fake feed price.
and if anyone else think so, please  vote out crazybit.

I would ask anyone who is currently using baozi as a proxy to stop voting for them. They are causing issues with a majority of witnesses and alienating people. This is not what BitShares is about.

oh, yes?
or I just point out these issues and try to fix it?
you even allowed crazybit to give the feed price higher than 30% more than a month after BSIP42 have been voted out, and do nothing.
you have your choise to ignore the issue and keep pretended everything is perfect.

I consider witness as an honor instead of something cheap for anybody.
I will continue kick out those not good enough to be a witness to defend the honor.

Quote from: alt on December 28, 2018, 02:17:07 am

this can't explain you feed price behavior at all.
you have said several witness use the same strategy as you, can you show me anyone who have the same pattern as your account?

i said many witness use this script, but do not said they used the same strategy as me, please note the strategy is configurable. i also do not know their feeding logic,

so can you explain why your feed price always follow the median price?

To prevent the market manipulation by the malicious trader, the witness should not public his feeding logic, as least not all the witness, i would try to disclose more info since you still question me, currently, i am using weighted strategy by market trade volume as attached below, and the behavior you observed are all determined by the feeding program, btw, the feeding interval is 5 mins.

Code: [Select]

default:
    # max age of a feed
    maxage: 43200

    # minimum percentage that forces a publish
    min_change: 0.001

    # warn if price change goes above this percentage
    warn_change: 10

    # skip publishing a feed if price goes above this percentage
    skip_change: 50

    # skip publishing a feed if producer is not an active witness.
    skip_inactive_witness: True

    # how to derive a single price from several sources
    # Choose from: "median", "mean", or "weighted" (by volume)
    metric: weighted

    # Select sources for this particular asset. Each source
    # has its own fetch() method and collects several markets
    # any market of an exchanges is considered but only the
    # current asset's price is derived
    #
    # Choose from: - "*": all,
    #              - loaded exchanges (see below)


this can't explain you feed price behavior at all.
you have said several witness use the same strategy as you, can you show me anyone who have the same pattern as your account?

Do not know how do you get such conclusion, but i would tell you that the truth is NOT as you imagined.

i am currently using this feeding script（https://github.com/crazybits/bitshares-pricefeed), as i know, many witness are also using this feeding script, you could review the code you would like to.

and below is a part of today log, please let me know if u still have question.

can you explain why almost every time when you update your feed price, you will follow the median price?
when the median price keep unchange, you can keep unfresh for 45 minutes, but when the meidian price change a little bit, you will follow imediately at next cycle?
here is some snapshot, https://drive.google.com/open?id=1mk406jgfBlVeJTpn2OeX9-1VSUqT81gE

for CNY
at 8:31, you followed the median price at 0.2703,
at 8:45, you followed to 0.2697,
you keep unrefresh about 34 minutes when the median price unchanged
at 9:19, the median price changed to 0.2699, then you update your price to 0.2699 at 9.20
at 9:24, when the median price change to 0.2705, you update your price at the same at 9:25
then you followed to 0.2708 at 9:35

for USD
at 08:35, you followed the median price at 0.0389,
at 08:40, you followed to 0.0388,
you didn't refresh for about 44 minutes  when the median price unchaged
at 09:25, you followed to 0.0389
you can see the same action at 09:34 to 09:35

sorry I will not reply any personal message for vote support.
it's not sometihing about personal relationship.
all my decision about vote only based on the public information.
and I will ignore any discussion from private group, if you want to get my support, please show more public activities.

Quote from: alt on December 26, 2018, 11:52:47 am

Quote from: Bangzi on December 26, 2018, 11:45:32 am

Quote from: alt on December 26, 2018, 09:31:16 am

Quote from: finn-bts on December 26, 2018, 09:14:07 am

Quote from: alt on December 26, 2018, 08:58:18 am

Quote from: bitcrab on December 26, 2018, 08:33:55 am

proxy bitcrab will vote these witnesses out tomorrow morning if they do not change, give them some time to response.

thank you.
I have to wait until all the wrong feed price be voted out or be fixed.
I need to make sure the majority voter have got the consensus to provide the real feed price, then I will support to reduce MSSR ASAP.

I wonder if you could support some witnesses who are willing to offer the right price.Instead of just waiting. like gdex-wintness abc123

I will support gdex-witness if they agree to give the right feed price. feed price is the base requirment, not the sufficient.
And I still have to wait those witness who give wrong feed price be voted out.

Bangzi feeding market price since few weeks ago. Bangzi also provide seed node, API node and testnet witness node. Kindly support.

sorry, you guys too late to response.
Building trust is not something that can be achieved overnight.

True! Please check this:
https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=27470.msg325397#msg325397

Sorry I missed the post, I have support bangzi and bhuz just now.

Quote from: alt on December 26, 2018, 11:26:59 am

Quote from: bitcrab on December 26, 2018, 09:51:46 am

Quote from: alt on December 26, 2018, 09:31:16 am

I will support gdex-witness if they agree to give the right feed price. feed price is the base requirment, not the sufficient.
And I still have to wait those witness who give wrong feed price be voted out.

we agree, kindly support.

I have supportted, but seems the feed price from gdex-witness still 3%-4% higher than market price.

will adapt soon.

thanks.
I don't want to waste time, so if you can contact xeroc admit to vote out those witness still give wrong feed price tomorrow.
I will support reduce MSSR soon.